the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

I like how these dorks have suddenly discovered that centralized parties are anti-democratic, can't wait to see what else they learn about going forward. who am I kidding, top table job at some national charity doling out soundbites for BBC Breakfast is what comes next

Samuel Smiles Socialism, they can work with that surely?

the absolute shitshow in commons right now has to be seen.

"I agree with the hon memb that these embarrassing forecasts should be completely ignored. After all, as he says other forecasts were wrong."

Q.

"Ah don't worry about Brexit's effect on your consistuency, these forecasts show growth!"

So David Davies 100% mislead a Parliamentary Select Committee at some point then? I mean given the range of his answers that's a no-brainer but these are the forecasts he said didn't exist, right?

didn't he say something like "they aren't forecasts they're check thesaurus for synonym so when I said there were no forecasts I wasn't technically lying blimey that Darkest Hour's a great film what?"

not for the first time today on ilx i am moved to comment that nothing means anything anymore

these have been worked up since he said that i believe

there were others that did exist but not with this level of probity, or something

so these have been worked up but they could easily be wrong, like many other forecasts have been wrong

but these are distinguished from the ones we did previously, which were just straight-up very wrong

The killing of the HDV isn't a victory for Corbyn or Momentum.

It's a victory for ordinary residents and activists who organised a campaign on a fiver here, a tenner there, who crowdfunded and staged fundraising gigs.

Against all odds, against a political machine, they won.

— Aditya Chakrabortty (@chakrabortty) January 30, 2018

Momentum: neither ordinary nor activists

Well if they aren't affiliated to Momentum...

lots of people now enjoying the security of not being shunted out of their homes isn't the main headline for some reason.

Meanwhile in JR-M news...he’s asked about the company he has kept.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/squirming-tory-jacob-rees-mogg-11937361

Asked about the Mirror's story today, he told Sky News: "As it happened I asked central office before going to that dinner and at that point they knew nothing about the organisation.

"I made enquiries, I heard nothing about them.

"I deeply regret going to that dinner. It was a mistake. This fellow’s views are really disgusting and I have no association with them.

Yes, but that did Jacob Rees-Mogg have to say on the matter?

Come on lads we've all been to Nazi dinner parties by accident, nothing to see here

so rees-mogg is saying

lad he’s saying

he’s saying he did not see that coming

wait fuck

Aditya should be v proud of the part he played in this HDV thing.

deffo, he's been on it from the start, fine combing those council documents for the weasel word bullshit they contained, constantly hammering them.

BBC London News interviewed Claire Kober and a bunch of other centrist mums and they are doubling down on accusing Corbynites/Momentum of forcing them out and oh how very dare they sexistly remove the longest-serving female council leader from her post THAT SHE QUIT because nobody in her borough wanted LendLease to take over Haringey’s housing.

If Claire Kober actually genuinely gaf about her constituents rather than her ideological dogma, she wouldn't have been fucked off, simple as.

Like I said, leave the party or stfu

Had to google it, but anything called 'development vehicle' that isn't something on wheels is a terribly named thing imo

that development vehicle in full

http://heroichollywood.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/o0kx1ky5qwrxejmhnj0q.png?x42694

Cheeky git <3

Maybe it was a Buddhist thing

https://s10.postimg.org/qhsz5qxvt/Capita_SP.png

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A bit small but Capita shares are down nearly 40% this morning after they issued a profit warning.

first they came for Carillion, and we said nothing

I laughed tbf

nationalise everything, obv

i assume kpmg are gonna be wrapped up in this one too huh

"Capita has underinvested in the business and there has been too much emphasis on acquisitions to drive growth." (from the CEO himself)

It's almost as if they only just now found out they were being hyper-capitalists.

Thread

Labour source on Kober's resignation: tipping point was Haringey manifesto meeting last week. The left proposed several measures already in place in neighbouring (Labour) boroughs Hackney, Islington and Camden - Kober and the right denounced these as dangerous Trot radicalism

— dan hancox (@danhancox) January 31, 2018

obv a lot of folk will be totally gutted that a firm that has created systems that send truancy notices to dead pupil's parents and delay payments to terminally ill people until they are dead are struggling to make a profit. Rinsing the fuck out of the public sector might be a bit more difficult than some people think.

it's almost as if there's no ongoing profit in public sector admin work

re that Dan Hancox thread, it still leads me to the overwhelming question: how the hell did the likes of Kober wander into the Labour party in the first place? it surely can't just be careerism, there must be better paid non-jobs out there.

Anyone who views the protection of social housing tenants as "ideological dogma" is definitely a Tory.

never in doubt, so what makes a Tory wanna be a Labour councillor for umpteen years?

blairism is a helluva drug

which reminds me, why hasn't that "don't vote Labour" douche been officially drummed out yet? it would be v satisfying

I don't think they saw any contradictions at the time, which begs the question for me. What kind of sociopath would happily engage in the destruction of social housing whilst espousing the type of drivel they do. That must be a very difficult spiel to maintain, involving more faces than Big Ben.

Connexions Card – A £109million scheme that involved issuing 16- to 19-year-olds with smart cards that recorded their lesson attendance and rewarded them with discounts on consumer goods. It ran from 2002 until it was terminated in 2006 owing to lack of uptake.

One of Capita's great ideas in the Blair era.

The short answer is that Labour is usually the only game in town in a lot of London boroughs. Labour has 49 of 57 wards in Haringey.

Kober’s background is NUS to voluntary sector to council leader and I would guess the next step was meant to be MP though, so she is fully embedded in the careerist Labour production line that brought us Wes Streeting, etc.

identifying the most pressing problems for the country

You've got to wonder what the large number of #Labour MPs who will now probably never hold office are going to do with the second half of their careers. Genuine problem. https://t.co/YESyzEESqc

— Glen O'Hara (@gsoh31) January 31, 2018

There isn't any reason why a centrist Labour candidate who actually inspires people and has some vision couldn't win a future contest. The problem is that so few of them do.

"All we're missing to be up there is a 25 goal a season striker"

i keep saying it but have any of u (not just matt) srsly considered going into politics

The lad, Chuka, he's a confidence player.

i guess not

It would require a lot of self-reflection and a complete reassessment of what 'centrism' actually means in the current environment rather than just reheating Blairism and treating it as some kind of universal truth, *and making enough people believe in it* and I seriously doubt many of the current lot are capable of doing that.