LII :::: the super bowl of hate :::: philadelphia eagles vs new england patritos

i doubt the return is much but lol @ paying any price to downgrade yourself from cousins to smith

hahahaha they're giving back a second-round pick!

v comparable qbs imo
im more certain that smith will never win a big game than i am cousins, tho he probably wont either

i think that's the difference! kirk cousins could in theory win you a game. alex smith is never winning you a game.

third round pick and a player. for a qb kc were desperate to get off their payroll. and a 5y extension already, $70m guarantees. amazing.

i would much rather be paying that money over that period for cousins

i mean, cousins will undoubtedly get paid a lot more somewhere, but even so

that is just fucking crazy

qb pay scale was already going to go thru the roof this off season, starting like this won't help

oh man they sent a good player too, kendall fuller at cb, slotting nicely into a position of need for the chiefs. in one move they picked up a starter, shed $17m cap hit and a qb controversy, and picked up a 3rd round pick.

lol someone is gonna get suckered into giving Case Keenum a huge contact

someone close to home

i learned today looking at the twitter replies to kevin clark's article about the patriots and penalties that many people are absolutely and genuinely convinced that the nfl is influencing its officials to give new england favourable calls

Belichick shuts off the hot water in the locker room every time a player false starts, so this is no shock really

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I can confirm this. I get it all the time from people down here in TX.

I had someone tell me last week that they only win because of cheating and refs.

The Jags were definitely hinting at this after the last game because of the big PI call.

i thought this kind of thing was always just banter/shit talk but...

remarkable

have noticed this theory really gaining steam recently

also ppl r generally really bad at understanding penalty calls

also pats are big cheaters in general

in order to know the patriots you must understand that they are small cheaters

but anyway theres no way to cheat the refs, that wld be the refs cheating

I think we can just agree that if the pats win this sunday it will be because they have cheated

no it will be because the eagles didnt cheat enough

it may also be because Tom Brady is a sociopath who has assimilated and subsumed so many playbooks that he's incapable of remembering anything but the most base forms of human interaction and emotion, casting them and his wide eyed proteges aside in his quest for GOAT status.

that seems p likely

i don't think the nfl/refs favor the pats (other than perhaps subconsciously, as they tend to play their playoff games at home)

otoh i totally believe that the league *would* tilt basically any scales if it thought it could get away with it/would somehow make more money, because it is run by dumb greedy people

I mean, I kind of get it. The Pats definitely like to draw big PI calls, which sometime appear questionable. They pick up far fewer penalties than their opponents, which is mostly down to better discipline. But many people think they don't get called enough. Gronk, in particular is a target of these complaints.

OTOH, I don't know how anyone with eyes can't see that the Pats constantly make all kinda of sick plays on both sides of the ball. To me, they are willfully ignoring the fact that the Pats are obviously extremely good.

i think that if you're caught cheating multiple times ppl will think that you're a cheater

i learned today looking at the twitter replies to kevin clark's article about the patriots and penalties that many people are absolutely and genuinely convinced that the nfl is influencing its officials to give new england favourable calls

― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, February 1, 2018 11:53 AM (thirty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

heres that article, pretty interesting

“He comes in [to team meetings] and says, ‘OK, we have this set of officials this week,’” said Harrison, now an analyst at NBC Sports. “‘They’ve called 18 pass interference penalties, they call a lot of holding, illegal procedures.’ He briefed us. Belichick, when he coaches, everyone is prepared. Probably too much.”

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2018/2/1/16958718/super-bowl-new-england-patriots-bill-belichick-rules-penalties-study

The Pats are like the Spurs, basically a model franchise w/a preternaturally gifted coach who is able to adapt to virtually any situation and put them in a position to win it all every year. of course one of those teams is in the NFL and its coach is not a cuddly woke dude but instead is Trump's secret penpal so....

I think people have a hard time wrapping tbeir head around the fact that purposefully drawing penalties is a part of the game, even when they've seen a million hard counts, hurry-up snaps, icing the kicker, etc, etc.

imagine how horrible its gonna be if brady retires and the patriots keep appearing in the afc champ game every year

mordy trolling with the hypotheticals i guess but it is worth bringing up how the patriots were punished after being ineptly framed by another team and the league in the context of a discussion about how the league is biased in their favour

lol

The Patriots’ knowledge of the rule book is not just to keep players disciplined and help them avoid penalties, Pereira said. It’s also proved to be a game-planning edge. That showed itself most notably when the Patriots disguised their eligible receivers in a playoff game against the Baltimore Ravens three years ago, a move John Harbaugh labeled “clearly deception.” In response, Tom Brady said the Ravens should “study the rule book.”

“Belichick knows the rules. The Ravens and other teams go crazy because they don’t know the rules, and then people think it’s a conspiracy,” Daopoulos said. “He just does a better job on this. He’s better prepared than anyone.”

I agree, but thats obviously not how the vast majority of NFL fans see it.

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mordy trolling with the hypotheticals i guess but it is worth bringing up how the patriots were punished after being ineptly framed by another team and the league in the context of a discussion about how the league is biased in their favour

― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, February 1, 2018 12:34 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i kinda tuned out all the various scandals can u explain to me the framing thank u

only the nfl can make scandal tedious lol smh

https://www.si.com/nfl/2016/01/18/deflategate-one-year-later-tom-brady-bill-belichick

omg dont make me read that plz

i think the explanation is obvious - balls love to be deflated

i am exaggerating for fun and colour but the condensed version is that the ravens, acting on bad information, spite and self-pity, tipped off the nfl to set up a sting at half-time on the afc championship game, as a result of which the roger goodell, acting on bad information and some kind of god complex presumably, ordered a poorly executed inquiry which depending on your pov was either inconclusive or basically cleared the patriots and then he punished them excessively anyway

so were the balls not really deflated are we through the looking glass

Wasn't it the Colts?

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the balls were deflated to an extent consistent with physics and not requiring external action

no, the sting was the colts game, but it was the ravens who brought it up after the divisional

what abt the story of brady conspiring with an equipment manager or some shit

do you think belichick is good at settlers of cataan

def he knows everything abt the various sheep and rocks the game requires

He converts sheep into footballs

the ravens and colts, sick and tired of losing only bc Brady conspired to have the balls deflated so his aging hands could get a better grip, finally found a way to put an end to the Pats' illegitimate reign.

After the balls were replaced mid-game for fully inflated ones, the Patriots went on to miraculously decimate the Colts.