otoh Bernie can go get fucked
I am strongly supportive of sanctions on Russia and North Korea. However, I worry very much about President Trump’s approach to Iran.— Bernie Sanders (@SenSanders) July 27, 2017
― Simon H., Wednesday, 31 January 2018 14:20 (six years ago) link
Unfortunate because sanctions only really hurt the people, not the aristocracy, yes? I only have a vague sense of how that works, but so I've heard
― davey, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 14:24 (six years ago) link
That, but mainly (for me) the whole needless antagonizing thing
― Simon H., Wednesday, 31 January 2018 14:38 (six years ago) link
who/what is he antagonizing?
― Pumpkin Soup and Mandy Patinkin (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 15:28 (six years ago) link
The states he mentioned. the rhetorical dick-measuring accomplishes nothing ("strongly supportive," oh fuck off) and is the last thing you need to counter an administration that's fond of saber rattling. just leave the subject alone or, heaven forbid, maybe express some solidarity or actual human interest with the citizens of those nations. (I don't actually expect that from bernie at all, but it would be nice.)
― Simon H., Wednesday, 31 January 2018 15:43 (six years ago) link
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/31/health/cdc-director-fitzgerald-resigns-bn/index.htmlCDC director had financial interest in tobacco industry... and had to resign for it???! outrageous!clearly the #deepstate #swamp has not been #drained. i hope the president launches an immediate investigation into how this got #leaked.
― Righteous wax chaperone, rotating Wingdings (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 15:53 (six years ago) link
xp I don't think advocating sanctions on Russia given the context is inflammatory.
I infer from the rest that he disapproves of the president's warmongering on NKorea (sanctions will do) and his bluster about scrapping the Iran nuclear deal?
― Pumpkin Soup and Mandy Patinkin (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 15:54 (six years ago) link
Great that the media coverage of the “Dean Scream” defines how we readily look at everything now.
“they put a wet mouthed loser kid up to to the SOTU response...”
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 16:00 (six years ago) link
"settling" for / compromising down to sanctions as an alternative to outright warmongering is weak tea garbage and he consistently misses opportunities to put forward a truly alternative vision of foreign policy, something he's better placed than anyone else to do
― Simon H., Wednesday, 31 January 2018 16:00 (six years ago) link
NP are you implying JK does not fit that description
― Simon H., Wednesday, 31 January 2018 16:02 (six years ago) link
I'm frankly agog that a member of the Trump administration has stepped down over a conflict of interest rather than flipping the American public off as hard as she could. What universe are we in again?
― Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 16:08 (six years ago) link
Well I think we have everything summarized nicely here
House GOP aide tells me the train carrying members to the GOP retreat hit a garbage truck, and members are fine.But there could be potentially serious injuries to the people who were inside the truck, per the aide.— Haley Byrd (@byrdinator) January 31, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 16:47 (six years ago) link
Could be. We didn't really stop to check.
― Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 16:55 (six years ago) link
how could they distinguish the garbage truck from GOP members
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 16:57 (six years ago) link
ah there it is again - the queasy, vertiginous feeling that reality is being orchestrated by writers of terrible, obvious satire
― your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 16:59 (six years ago) link
Was the garbage truck on fire?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:00 (six years ago) link
some reports saying everyone is fine, some saying someone is dead.
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:10 (six years ago) link
twats on twitter calling it false flag, for some reason
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:16 (six years ago) link
gowdy not running for reelection
There is a time to come and a time to go. This is the right time, for me, to leave politics and return to the justice system. Full statement here → pic.twitter.com/7I8AApqvs1— Trey Gowdy (@TGowdySC) January 31, 2018
― marcos, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:18 (six years ago) link
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, January 31, 2018 9:10 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the former comes from the GOP, the latter from the civilian authorities maybe?
― omar little, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:19 (six years ago) link
Wonder what story about Gowdy is about to break xpost
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:19 (six years ago) link
The book of Ecclesiastes teaches us there is a time and a season for all things
p sure that was the Byrds, dude
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:25 (six years ago) link
DEVELOPING: Train carrying GOP lawmakers to retreat collides with trash truck https://t.co/l1iAPNzniZ pic.twitter.com/E8YsuJV1uV— NBC News (@NBCNews) January 31, 2018
― Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:25 (six years ago) link
gowdy did 9/11 xp
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:25 (six years ago) link
On the day of the blue-blood eclipse, the GOP train literally collides with a trash truck.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:26 (six years ago) link
msnbc says one killed (and paul ryan unhurt)
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:26 (six years ago) link
I wonder what connection the truck drivers had to Clinton
― Evan, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:27 (six years ago) link
There is a time to come and a time to go. This is the right time, for me, to leave politics and return to the justice system.
I would like a lot more of them to return to the justice system, but probably not in the way he means.
― claude rains down in africa (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:29 (six years ago) link
Or maybe ... he's going to become the new AG. Or deputy AG. Or Head of the FBI.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:33 (six years ago) link
I understand the CDC is in need of a director who's willing to demonstrate an intransigent lack of concern toward the control of diseases.
― Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:47 (six years ago) link
What does thing bring the count to now? Of scaredy-cats?
― Pumpkin Soup and Mandy Patinkin (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:52 (six years ago) link
if Gowdy becomes AG or head of FBI I’m going to vomit
― the late great, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:54 (six years ago) link
that's true for me if he becomes anything other than "dead in a gasoline fire"
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:54 (six years ago) link
sounds like he is going to serve out his term though
― the late great, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:55 (six years ago) link
and a second one
― infinity (∞), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:58 (six years ago) link
he's apparently joining the newly created position "Lead Benghazi Inquisitor"
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:59 (six years ago) link
Paul Ryan was on the train apparently.
Unfortunately, he's ok.
or at least, as ok as he was before.
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:00 (six years ago) link
― Simon H., Wednesday, January 31, 2018 2:38 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'm not sure I buy that antagonism of Russia or NK is "needless"
one's systematically & brazenly undermining representative democracies everywhere and the other is waving nukes around after two decades of the planet begging them not to seek nukes
sanctions won't make progress towards resolving these problems, but neither does pretending they don't exist. nor are they irrevocably war prelude.
fuckin idk
this timeline sucks
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:10 (six years ago) link
Feds will not retry Bob Menendez
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:14 (six years ago) link
if there really must be nukes in this world, N Korea should have some (as should Iran). but that's a debate for another thread lol
― Simon H., Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:19 (six years ago) link
A seat on the Fourth Circuit Court, which covers South Carolina, became vacant just yesterday, and the current U.S. attorney in South Carolina is serving in an interim role
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/another-gop-chairman-to-retire-trey-gowdy-announces-hes-out
― Pumpkin Soup and Mandy Patinkin (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:22 (six years ago) link
That's an insane opinion, Simon...
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:23 (six years ago) link
xp no nukes for iran
― the late great, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:24 (six years ago) link
I've been after Sanders for not offering a different fp vision, but careful what you wish for, I guess. Yikes...
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:27 (six years ago) link
was russia "needlessly antagonizing" us when they fucked w/ our election? yeesh.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:28 (six years ago) link
xp
iran's brand of revolutionary islam is extremely oppressive and shitty, and they really are supporters of terrorism
allowing them nukes would just prop up the current shitty regime and embolden them to build regional power, export their brand of islam, etc
not cool.
― the late great, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:30 (six years ago) link
(I don't think anyone should be handing out nukes or advocating for them - disarmament all the way. I just don't like the USA having a monopoly on or outsized comparative capacity for force.)
― Simon H., Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:31 (six years ago) link
the USA aren't supporters of terrorism? gimme a break.
Well well. The FBI has formally gone all out:
BREAKING: FBI on The Memo "we have grave concerns about material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy.” pic.twitter.com/ZAGWmu9o9o— Ryan J. Reilly 🦅 (@ryanjreilly) January 31, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:34 (six years ago) link
― Simon H., Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:31 PM (one minute ago)
yeah cuz the world sure did get notably safer when the soviets got nuclear weapons, didn't it?
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:35 (six years ago) link