This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2017

Skandies have begun

http://enchantedmitten.blogspot.de/

Are we not doing an ILX consensus thread this year? If not, I wish we'd at least do a thread of top 10 (or whatever) lists, so I can find out what I've missed and what's worth searching for.

it's early!

Didn't happen til March last year: Guys Guys, I'm Sorry, No, There's a Mistake - The 2016 ILX Film Poll Results Thread

(And also I guess her character is not ultimately someone male voters can fantasize about.)

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius)

i beg to differ

I can do it again, unless there's gonna be a lot of pissing in my ear about dates and eligibility etc. I think I try to do roll out the results around Oscar time. Yays/Nays?

Yay

Avidly, avidly.

In the meantime, Pinkerton's 4 parter on Twin Peaks is essentially a round up of 2017: http://reverseshot.org/features/2417/twin_peaks_one

another Gukbe vote of confidence.

Okay, here it goes: "I cannot start my day with a confrontation" The 2017 ILX Film Poll Voting Thread - Ballots Due Sunday, March 4th at 7pm EST.

consider me pissing

ICYMI, DGA award to del Toro

second time you use that abbreviation this morning; I had to look it up

DGA?

Looks like Mexican directors gonna win Osc*rs more often than women.

The first.

Int'l Cinephile Society:

Chalamet
Krieps
Manville
Stuhlbarg
PTA

and

01. Call Me by Your Name
02. Phantom Thread
03. Personal Shopper
04. BPM
05. The Lost City of Z
06. On the Beach at Night Alone
07. Lady Bird
08. A Quiet Passion
09. Good Time
10. Nocturama
11. Blade Runner 2049

https://icsfilm.org/our-yearly-awards/2018-ics-award-winners/

01. Call Me by Your Name
02. Phantom Thread
03. Personal Shopper
04. BPM
05. The Lost City of Z
06. On the Beach at Night Alone
07. Lady Bird
08. A Quiet Passion
09. Good Time
10. Nocturama

Fixed.

yeah, at least they left off Get Out

Moments Out of Time at TPV

http://parallax-view.org/2018/02/06/moments-out-of-time-2017/

https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/02/13/the-village-voice-film-poll/

My first!

Respectable:

Best Lead Performance:

1. Saoirse Ronan, Lady Bird (121 points)

2. Timothée Chalamet, Call Me by Your Name (108 points)

3. Cynthia Nixon, A Quiet Passion (101 points)

4. Daniel Day-Lewis, Phantom Thread (86 points)

5. Kristen Stewart, Personal Shopper (85 points)

Not a lot of bites on the elephant in the room, either.

Best Director:
1. Paul Thomas Anderson, Phantom Thread (65 points)
2. Greta Gerwig, Lady Bird (52 points)
3. Jordan Peele, Get Out (51 points)
4. Christopher Nolan, Dunkirk (49 points)
5. Luca Guadagnino, Call Me by Your Name (42 points)
6. Sean Baker, The Florida Project (41 points)
7. Bertrand Bonello, Nocturama (37 points)
8. David Lynch, Twin Peaks: The Return (31 points)
9 (tie). Guillermo del Toro, The Shape of Water (22 points)
9 (tie). Dee Rees, Mudbound (22 points)

tbh this is one of the most consensus of years – I've seen the same movies pop up on everyone's lists.

It happens every year. Every detrius thread charts the progression from "everything's on the table" to "so there really were only seven or eight movies released last year, eh?"

Not seeing The Other Side of Hope enough, or BPM high enough.

OK, after 5 minutes of searching the site, I'll bite: can one see the VV ballots/full results?

And did the Indiewire poll ever come iut?

Bilge says full searchable ballots at the end of the week. (Ed didn't get a ballot, accidentally.)

lots of bilge to get through

*obligatory mary j bilge joke*

Is there any reason to suspect that Dunkirk isn't exactly what I would expect from a WWII flick by Nolan (busy yet boring action scenes, a lot of portentous dialogue, moralism delivered with sledgehammer force)?

it's better than his usual because it has almost no dialogue and the action scenes are crisp but it's like other Nolan films in that it has no reason to exist

The amount of dialogue is relatively spare. It's a somewhat unusual narrative skein, but yes a lot of (gen downbeat) war-movie tropes in a pretty package. xp

for those who saw dunkirk: does it forfeit its reason to be watched on a television; that is, should i have caught it in theaters or not at all?

this has probably been discussed ad infinitum but does anyone else think that the expanded best pic field has evaporated a lot of enthusiasm for the Academy Awards? or maybe it's something else? I recognize my own ambivalence in recent times vs previous decades but i'm sensing it elsewhere too. i don't know if the ratings reflect it, so i might be completely wrong, but i think some of the shine has been taken off.

Yes.

Which is amusing because it's their only significant improvement in a long time

for those who saw dunkirk: does it forfeit its reason to be watched on a television; that is, should i have caught it in theaters or not at all?

I watched it at home and I think the answer to this is yes

this has probably been discussed ad infinitum but does anyone else think that the expanded best pic field has evaporated a lot of enthusiasm for the Academy Awards? or maybe it's something else? I recognize my own ambivalence in recent times vs previous decades but i'm sensing it elsewhere too. i don't know if the ratings reflect it, so i might be completely wrong, but i think some of the shine has been taken off.

― omar little, T

Remember Hannah Arendt: "When all are guilty, none are."

Yeah, catch it in a theater if you can. It's been re-released to theaters where I live, which surprised me at first, but makes total sense. I hated it - we don't need any more WWII movies or any movies that depict war as anything but totally pointless and endlessly destructive - but it absolutely deserves the Best Cinematography Oscar. it's a beautiful looking movie. the sound is really good, too.

it's better than his usual because it has almost no dialogue and the action scenes are crisp but it's like other Nolan films in that it has no reason to exist

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)

this is so, so otm. although i enjoyed Interstellar a lot despite the fact that it made no fucking sense

It's the editing one that it really should have a lock on.

I just had to look up the Best Editing category: Dunkirk; Baby Driver; The Shape of Water; I, Tonya; Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri. yeah I mean the only competition there really is Baby Driver.

I'd say Dunkirk has both sound awards and editing and that's about it.

It should win everything, of course, except best soundtrack and, uhm, dialogue...

seeing Dunkirk in a theater with all the bells and whistles for $28, no thx

again, this is where moviepass comes in handy

as soon as they let me do it w/out a smartphone, i'm in. (but i don't think IMAX screenings are covered)

i see plenty of stuff with my current resources.

imax / 3d is a no; same for most "in advance" booking so no it's not perfect.
i've seen a total of one 3-d imax film (gravity) and i'm okay never doing either ever again

"Not seeing The Other Side of Hope enough"

this had some very nice Ozu style colours and warmth, and the sushi scene was one of the funniest things I've seen all year.

Yeah, Dunkirk deserves tons of technical awards

Shocked Ladybird isn’t up for best editing, it really was a huge part in telling the story

https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/02/15/film-poll-comments-winners-and-losers/

Man, six slams on Call Me By Your Name in a row...