the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

Wait Outlaw of Gor was a book?

Did you think it was only an MST3K episode?

Yes

?

http://mst3k.wikia.com/wiki/MST3K_519_-_Outlaw

(I should note that the opening credits do say it was based on the book. :-D )

not strictly politics but the reaction of the gammon to F1 stopping the use of grid girls is epochal.

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THREAD: you ready for another boys and girls? Well get comfortable as Alice raises a great question which I want to answer in regards to the #HDV which is very related

The then CEO of Barnet Council (nicknamed 'the easy council like easyjet) spearheaded this outsourcing project https://t.co/tTveksch5k

— Seema Chandwani ™ (@SeemaChandwani) February 1, 2018

There seems to be a reasonable amount of confidence in the city pages that Capita won’t go under afaict. Their share price dropped by about a quarter again today though.

this lept out from that:

Nick Walkley to step down from Conservative trailblazer Barnet council to take reins at Haringey, which has no Tory councillors

from The Guardian!

thanks for that link.

can seizing the means of production be far behind

Labour is considering forcing landowners to give up sites for a fraction of their current price in an effort to slash the cost of council house building.

The proposal has been drawn up by John Healey, the shadow housing secretary, and would see a Jeremy Corbyn-led government change the law so landowners would have to sell sites to the state at knockdown prices.

Landowners currently sell at a price that factors in the dramatic increase in value when planning consent is granted. It means a hectare of agricultural land worth around £20,000 can sell for closer to £2m if it is zoned for housing.

Labour believes this is slowing down housebuilding by dramatically increasing costs. It is planning a new English Sovereign Land Trust with powers to buy sites at closer to the lower price.

This would be enabled by a change in the 1961 Land Compensation Act so the state could compulsorily purchase land at a price that excluded the potential for future planning consent.

Healey’s analysis suggests that it would cut the cost of building 100,000 council houses a year by almost £10bn to around £16bn.

With the “hope value” removed from the price of land, the cost of building a two-bed flat in Wandsworth, south-west London, would be cut from £380,000 to £250,000, in Chelmsford it would fall from £210,000 to £130,000 and in Tamworth in the West Midlands, where land values are lower, it would drop from £150,000 to £130,000

outrageous Trotskyism, what's wrong with speculating on land value to nobody's benefit but your own?

i'm so fucking proud of these guys for pushing this stuff, for getting civil servants to do the research and produce the policy papers. it's like a little flicker of light in a dark, dark wood

Be proud! It's inspirational to foreigners as well.

Are civil servants allowed to research for the Opposition?

Maybe there is a distinction between those who work for government departments, and Parliamentary researchers?

Yeah you're right probably, I don't know the nomenclature - I just mean it's amazing thinking about the intellectual energy invested by hives of nameless policy wonks in progressive, humane, practical policies that actually stand a chance of being put forward in legislation

Civil servants are generally quietly preparing for a change of government when they expect one and I'd be amazed if they weren't hedging their bets here but they won't be actively working on behalf of the Opposition. There may be an element of cross-party consensus on this one though.

Ok - what do you call the people who drafted/researched this policy? Parliamentary researchers I guess?

hang on, I have it someplace.. oh there: "Miserable Remoaners"

"What the British people voted for is for us to take back control of our money, our borders and our laws and that's exactly what we are going to do."

someone really does have to pull her up when she says things like this. for a start 'the british people' is only a slight majority of the british people and not everybody, the way she implies.

and nobody voted specifically for that stuff she lists, it was a much vaguer binary question.

Be proud! It's inspirational to foreigners as well.

can confirm

is this a joke account and everyone's always known but me?

walked down stairs this morning. walk into the kitchen. kids all rise. i scream WHAT DOES BREXIT MEAN. the kids all shout brexit and tuck into there full english. tear to my eye. gave them a chewit each before school

— Barry Stanton (@BarryStantonGB) February 2, 2018

Obviously a joke. Is it famous or something?

welcome to the edgy subgenre of parody brexiteer accounts

I just think it's a shame that Labour haven't had all these researchers in the past so it's taken til now for them to think up some policies for not making the whole country a privately run hellhole

I agree with KOOGS.

they did have researchers, they were bad not good: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/19/spads-special-advisers-took-over-british-politics

(this is actually a fairly terrible article)

i am a terrible man for the faux naivete

I've met a few would-be spads during my time drinking with students and even the left-leaning ones were hopeless, technocratic process-worshippers

I love how GAMMON is now a demographic.

(I could with reminding what it is, tbh)

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God, it was from Grantham last night, it was as bad as Yorkshire. There seem to be a hella lot of shouty Tory wankers around these days.

I've got to stop watching that shitty show.

I realised that when I was 17 btw

as many as the researchers can find. xxp

I gave it up for years but drifted back to it because nowt else on a Thurs. night.

weird thing is I drink with quite a few gammon types and usually find them perfectly amenable when they're shouting about scroungers et al in the pub

xp there's always laying the palms of ur hands flat on the electric hob

THIS WEEK

It's a double whammy all right.

weird thing is I drink with quite a few gammon types and usually find them perfectly amenable when they're shouting about scroungers et al in the pub

i think the crucial variable there is drink - helps wash down the more gristly cuts of gammon innit

yeah tbf it helps with my relaxed equanimity

I'm still not really sure what you're talking about but I'm guessing it's a kind of ranting ham-faced fuck?

I occasionally worked with someone who was in his late 30's but destined to be classic Gammon. He had a Range Rover, did dry stone walling, all types of groundworks and owned 2 Aberdeen Angus cows. He used to earn extra "going out killing things at night" and keep a photographic record of everything he shot on his phone, because he earned a bit from the National Trust for this. He was tea-total but had a very ruddy complexion from the amount of red meat he ate. He showed me his Xmas FB pic once of him posing with a severed deer's head with a "one of santa's reindeers is missing" caption. He was very funny tbh, but loved the Tories and racism.

I like gammon.

contemplated spending the evening mocking up a gammoned version of the poster for Jamón Jamón but what's the point, we're all gonna die

pls to see the collected twitter ouevre of barry stanton

how likely do you think it is he'll end up being arrested for committing a string of murders across yr local area xp to cal