Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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I trust Max Gogarty

They're a '90s odd couple. And an odds-on choice for laughs. (blueski), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link

I know the Graun website is full of Tory trolls but that has all the hallmarks of a poll that four people have voted in.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, I'd say it's probably the same four Tory trolls who always turn up on HYS, Labour Home and suchlike.

It's 10.00 and I'm Huw Edwards. I don't write this stuff. (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 15:49 (fifteen years ago) link

The cartoon they're currently running on the back of the G2 on a friday is perhaps the most unfunny, ametuerishly drawn strip I've seen in actual print.

chap, Friday, 3 October 2008 13:18 (fifteen years ago) link

The most unfunny strip in print is still Chris Roy Taylor's "The Omnipresent", available in every edition of thelondonpaper. Every single one seems to have been carefully designed to be as completely shit as possible. I mean it actually feels deliberate; that's how bad it is.

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 13:22 (fifteen years ago) link

(looks at back of G2) god it is crap, isn't it.

The Plastic Fork (Pashmina), Friday, 3 October 2008 13:22 (fifteen years ago) link

(x-post)

The Plastic Fork (Pashmina), Friday, 3 October 2008 13:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Hahaha oh god that sucks.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 October 2008 13:23 (fifteen years ago) link

I've seen many many shitty internet comix that crap all over it.

chap, Friday, 3 October 2008 13:25 (fifteen years ago) link

That Guardian one is beyond bad. Has she even seen a human face before?

Raw Patrick, Friday, 3 October 2008 13:33 (fifteen years ago) link

is this the "karine frischmann" or whatever one?

it's not just the drawings, the "jokes" are horrendous. each one seems to have no punchline except "I was a weird quirky child!!!" when there's not even anything weird about the stupid stories.

can we get a dom p thought on these?

Local Garda, Friday, 3 October 2008 13:38 (fifteen years ago) link

online link?

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 13:41 (fifteen years ago) link

thanks for warning me about this dudes

Annoying Display Name (blueski), Friday, 3 October 2008 13:49 (fifteen years ago) link

I stopped buying The Guardian, mainly in protest at the dumbing down of their cryptic crossword. Although The Indie's is beginning to fuck me off as well, part of the clue last Saturday contained the phrase "Actress Hatcher". In a cryptic crossword.

Carrie Bradshaw Layfield (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Friday, 3 October 2008 13:52 (fifteen years ago) link

I stopped buying The Guardian, mainly because it was shit.

Checking My French, Checking-Checking My French (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 3 October 2008 13:56 (fifteen years ago) link

We've totally covered Karine Frischmann (or whatever) before, may or may not have had its own thread

The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Friday, 3 October 2008 13:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Louis:
http://karriefransman.wordpress.com/

chap, Friday, 3 October 2008 13:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Ah, her.

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 14:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Those are the most paedo-y eyes in history

Carrie Bradshaw Layfield (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Friday, 3 October 2008 14:01 (fifteen years ago) link

FRANSMANN: I ROONED ROO/MADDIE

Local Garda, Friday, 3 October 2008 14:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Next week's strip: "what's the deal with airline peanuts?"

Neil S, Friday, 3 October 2008 14:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Does Keital Firehose think that all rap is just "talking over records"?

Checking My French, Checking-Checking My French (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 3 October 2008 14:12 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't get why someone would want to draw people like that

Annoying Display Name (blueski), Friday, 3 October 2008 14:17 (fifteen years ago) link

srsly waht

darraghmac, Friday, 3 October 2008 14:18 (fifteen years ago) link

what about the pretentious one, made up of bad photography and word labels? it always hints at some cryptic melancholic truism that isn't quite there. it was nice when they were running pbf.

schlump, Friday, 3 October 2008 14:27 (fifteen years ago) link

they are abysmal...it's astonishing they go to print. it's easy to be hyperbolic but srsly, that is about the worst thing I've ever seen in a newspaper. there are no punchlines!

"i like cakes and am racist"

Local Garda, Friday, 3 October 2008 14:35 (fifteen years ago) link

In keeping with the Guardian readership then.

Checking My French, Checking-Checking My French (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 3 October 2008 14:36 (fifteen years ago) link

They read and look like they've been thought up by a 12 year old girl.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 October 2008 14:36 (fifteen years ago) link

An insult to 12 year old girls shurely.

Checking My French, Checking-Checking My French (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 3 October 2008 14:37 (fifteen years ago) link

laurabarton.jpg

lol xxxpost

Carrie Bradshaw Layfield (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Friday, 3 October 2008 14:38 (fifteen years ago) link

http://karriefransman.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/guardian-published-airport-van.jpg

This one is the worst.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 October 2008 14:39 (fifteen years ago) link

No, if it were Barton there wouldn't be any drawings at all, just 1500 tedious words about thinking about drawing a picture of Kurt Wagner in his Y-fronts while climbing down the inside of Mount St Helens or wherever else she dreamed she went last night.

Checking My French, Checking-Checking My French (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 3 October 2008 14:40 (fifteen years ago) link

oh the lusty hale of the moonlight shone on wagner's buxom bosom....alas the moment passed and I was left alone, like robinson cruesoe in the book of the same name.

Local Garda, Friday, 3 October 2008 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link

lol

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 14:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Don't forget to paraphrase the book quote twice to reach word count.

Checking My French, Checking-Checking My French (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 3 October 2008 14:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I read a Laura Barton piece by mistake once, something about some piece of alt-country toss evoking the Mississippi and making her soul orgasm blah blah blah. Yuk.

chap, Friday, 3 October 2008 14:58 (fifteen years ago) link

thing is....everyone I know thinks she's shit!

I went out for a drink for the first time with someone I barely knew a few months ago, who likes all the music Barton writes about. It turned out she and her friends post the article on Facebook every Friday to rip the piss out of it.

Local Garda, Friday, 3 October 2008 15:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Good to know that others are fighting the good fight as well!

Checking My French, Checking-Checking My French (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 3 October 2008 15:03 (fifteen years ago) link

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Saturday, 4 October 2008 12:16 (fifteen years ago) link

It's basically "i had a shit time, inherent problems with the system". I mean much as she might have a point (about Oxford being a haven for poshy-spaz idiocy), this IS, in the end, another one of those "I went to Oxbridge I I I I and here is what happened, btw I'm highly intelligent and perceptive, and could do things better than what the people in power do it" articles, which I can only despise

and ZING:

MrsLong
Oct 02 08, 8:21am

It got you a job at The Guardian

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Saturday, 4 October 2008 12:17 (fifteen years ago) link

O the pain, the suffering

Tom D says "...get them fuckin' up here, ya fuckin' walloper!" (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 October 2008 12:21 (fifteen years ago) link

I went up to Merton College in 1993, a kid who'd got a scholarship to a minor private school.

Get away. Well I never. Who'd've thought it?

Tom D says "...get them fuckin' up here, ya fuckin' walloper!" (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 October 2008 12:25 (fifteen years ago) link

most of tanya gold's articles seem to be about some deep seated bitterness/resentment at school bullies or being ostracised.

Local Garda, Saturday, 4 October 2008 12:27 (fifteen years ago) link

She coped by becoming a drunk. Where's the downside?

Poll Wall (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 October 2008 12:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Wonder if I could get a gig writing about some dude I had a fight with in 1983.

Poll Wall (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 October 2008 12:28 (fifteen years ago) link

"First thing I did on entering college was ask where I could hang my flat cap and if there was a good place to keep whippets."

Tom D says "...get them fuckin' up here, ya fuckin' walloper!" (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 October 2008 12:28 (fifteen years ago) link

First thing I did on entering college was be mildly disappointed when I realised Hull didn't have a beach.

Poll Wall (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 October 2008 12:31 (fifteen years ago) link

"Oxford is hellish. It needs to be broken apart and stuffed with kids who've got a scholarship to a minor private school- for its own good"

Tom D says "...get them fuckin' up here, ya fuckin' walloper!" (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 October 2008 12:33 (fifteen years ago) link


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