suncream, zits and wrinkles: rolling skincare thread?

I haven't noticed that happening - it does make fine hairs grow at my hairline though. Might be one of those vellus vs. terminal hair follicle things.

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Heh. I might buy this. I have never met anyone who vouches for a hairgrowing shampoo. I've had to dye my hair since I was 15 so I get anxious about hair thinning. I try to start at other parts of my head now instead of my hair part.

actually, i'm going to buy it too. i thought my hair was here to stay but the last year has proven me wrong.

many xp
enbb - yeah, sali!

So I walked by a deciem store today and popped in. It was a little too crowded and I didn't really remember what I wanted so I just got the Lactic Acid 10% ( I didn't see the 3%) and the 30ml of the Natural Moisturizing Factors (100ml was out). I am re-reading this thread and their site again to kind of figure out what I want because think there are other stores in the general areas I am going. I have to remember about the Ascorbyl Tetraisopalmitate because I was thinking of a skin brightener. Argh. I need to write these things down.

xp - Kinder :) Love her. I even read the message boards on her site every couple months when I remember they exist. She's great though.

I went to 3 different Deciem stores. All 3 had so much out of stock. The glassdoor reviews of working at the store seems pretty spot on from what I observed. I likened it to how American Apparel operated.

I’ve only ordered the ordinary etc online and am kind of at the point where I never want to enter a Sephora again (<- obvious lie) and just order stuff online because so often things are out of stock in the store.

Also, just gonna be all PSA for a minute and say USE SUNSCREEN and limit sun exposure when using all these acids and vit c and other active agents that can cause some pretty severe sun damage to unprotected skin. Like if I were going on a sunny beach vacation for a week I’d prob stop using the lactic acid and retinol ahead of time and during vacation. It’s worth looking into what can cause damage and what’s more benign. Skin science, such a freakin double edged sword!

Also if you have a new fave sunscreen tell me

Lately I like Avene Hydrance Optimale SPF 25 for winter/minimal sun exposure. I'm gonna need something more hardcore for upcoming beach vacation.

When I was in Hawaii for 5 months last year we basically just used the No-AD kids spf 50. Neither of us ever got burnt and I tend to burn. I had never heard of No-AD before but saw a lot of it at the beach.

And I always had some bottles of random spray sunscreen for the part in my hair and ears and feet, I wear cheap hats and sunglasses in the waterif the water is calmish.

I got the Vanicream that VegemiteGrrrl (I think?) recommended and it's been great for me. Less thick/sticky than the Neutrogena mineral one but same SPF. I've been using TiZO2 mineral one on my face as well as a tinted Coola one for daily. The Coola one feels a bit oily so I don't use it as often.

So apparently La Mer and the German formulation of Nivea are nearly exactly the same cream. La Mer has antioxidants in it but because it's in a jar they are rendered ineffective every time it's opened and the cream is exposed to light. The only other thing la Mer has that the German Nivea does not is kelp. I don't know that I'll be buying the Nivea any time soon because of this but it's pretty interesting. Note this is not the Nivea we get here that is slightly diff but it is the one available in the blue tin in Germany/UK/Rest of Europe and if you really want it you can get it here for 7 clams: https://www.smallflower.com/nivea/nivea-cream-150ml-5224.

ha! they sell it hidden in the corner by customer service at my grocery store! there are a bunch of euro products over there, hair masks and bottles entirely in russian, all kinds of stuff

I used to use No-AD SPF 50, until I had some sort of breakout where I'd applied it. Currently I use a CVS-brand "sensitive skin" sunscreen.

Have you tried the kid's version of No-AD? We got it because my partner has eczema and we didn't have any noticeable issues. I found that it lasts a long time too (don't need to reapply it as much).

My skincare (The Ordinary) products and hair oil were lost in my luggage for a week but finally showed up (minus the hair oil that was taken out). I definitely feel like my skin is smoother. As far as evening out of tone, I think i should've taken a before pic. But overall, I would rebuy and try other things in The Ordinary line.

things seem to be going more-than-slightly TITS-UP in the Deciem universe rn.

I always order from a Uk site called Victoria Health which, along with Deciem themselves, are the main UK distributor. I order from VH because they deliver quickly and, if something happens to be not in stock they don't deduct that money from you until it is in stock. That was they will allow you their free-postage bonus (over a limit) but send what they do have in stock free then send you the other thing that happened to not be in stock shortly afterward. They have great customer service and will address a query very quickly. Really great company, in my experience. I received a recent order that was minus one item (and hadn't been charged for it but got an efficent response telling me theey would post it asap). Great. If you look at the Deciem website to order from there, there are no commitments to timescales with regard to sending out orders so I am always leery (lol veg) at ordering from them since I have heard some bad reports. A few weeks later I get an email from VH apologising for the delay and explaining that the item wasn't available yet even though they were meant to have received it from the supplier. Broken distribution chain. Again, fine with me. Today I got a very polite email from Victoria Health saying that they were severing all contact with Deciem and would no longer be stocking any of their lines. Weird. Interesting.

I googled and found a thread on a facebook group where people were discussing that severance of ties. and found a link to this:

https://www.racked.com/2018/2/23/17044982/deciem-firings-resignations-brandon-truaxe

and also a link to Deciem's insta which the founder, Brandon Truaxe, seems to have taken over. It seems that his co-founder has recently been sacked, that lots of other people have left Deciem and that Brandon has gone, well, a bit weird with regard to that social media presence. If you look at their insta you see posts linking to negative reports but posted as if they were endorsements of Deciem alongside posts detailing launches of new products, of new lines and of new stores while the comments are complaining about not receiving products they ordered or complaing about being on long waiting lists. In other words, why are they bragging about opening hip new stores in brooklyn and london while people aren't getting the products they ordered and there's no let up in waiting lists for things that people love. They even announced the imminent launch of a new line based on middle eastern scents and soaps while people are complaining about not getting things they have been waiting for for months.

The posts seem weirdly insouciant and careless and kind of arrogant. It's not like people NEEEED their Matrixyl or their Copper Amino solutions to survive but there's something deeply weird about how they are conducting their business. I hope they get it sorted because, regardless, of personal or interpersonal beefs I really do delight in a lot of these products.

Has anyone dealt with small red bumps on the tip of the nose that don’t go away? Sometimes they just reconfigure themselves.

I went to the dermatologist and he said it was rosacea and gave me two meds: finacea foam for day and metronidazole cream for night.

I’ve been using both for a few weeks with only a slight improvement. Any ideas?

xpost Jed, you should read the glassdoor reviews of working at the company. I worked at the architecture firm that did a bunch of American Apparel stores everywhere. Deciem reminds me so much of how AA conducted their business model, expansion and branding (they couldn't pay anyone for months past work completed and would wait for liens to be placed before shifting funds but still kept opening stores). Same self absorbed founder too. I still like the product though. They should just allow Estee Lauder to manage everything.

I am getting stressed out thinking about it. It was the worst job I have ever had because AA was so inept. I had a meltdown at one store in Miami because everyone who worked for AA was completely useless and would show up half a day late to any meeting. Even 6 months after I quit I was still getting calls from contractors who hadn't been paid who hoped I could help get them their money.

(XP) If you haven’t already come across it, Sali Hughes’ rosacea advice is here: https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2015/aug/29/rosacea-treatments-that-work-sali-hughes

As previously mentioned by others, her recommendations are always worth investigating.

Yerac, AA was the first thing I thought of with regard to this but I forgot to mention it in my post!

Even 6 months after I quit I was still getting calls from contractors who hadn't been paid who hoped I could help get them their money.

this doesn't surprise me one bit, Y.

regardless of that, I agree with you about getting estee to run things. And it would be a huge plus for them since, who actually cares about estee, as a brand, who's under, like, 55 but i'm pretty sure they have logistics down.

I got the Alpha Lipoic Acid from there and it smells like toasting bread when I put it on. I am like, "am I dying?"

I like the smell but I think of it more as burning wires from an electrical appliance that's about to blow.

I've been making my spouse use it and I probably should've warned him first.

Just went to the dermatologist for my follow up. He thinks my rosacea is under control. Now he wants to blast off my dark spots. Has anyone had this done? We started with one to see how my skin would react.

Oh I also binged The Sinner, since it was on Dutch Netflix. So fucking weird, especially the creepy incest scene. Don’t think I’d recommend it. The coincidences were just too much.

SORRY wrong thread

Lol

What did your derm use to blast off the spots?

i want a spot blasting! what kind of $$$$ does that cost?

IPL?

I believe it was liquid nitrogen--came in a canister with a spout. We didn't talk about cost, he just offered it at the end of the session.

He said that the spot would turn darker, then crusty, then flake off. At this point, it is just much darker, not crusty at all. Not sure if it is working.

ordinary pros: Release of a new version of the buffet next wednesday with the addition of copper peptides in the solution! Also a new product - Sea Buckthorn oil, which is good for psoriasis, eczema and rosacia.

ordinary cons: Brandon Truaxe's escalation towards complete meltdown.

I am reading up on this now. I wonder what his deal is, or if that's just him.

https://www.thecut.com/2018/02/brandon-truaxe-new-instagram-drama-angered-the-ordinary-fans.html

I like how he offered $20k in products to the one girl who he screencapped her private account. Maybe he just likes to get wasted and troll online like most of the world.

“Paula Begoun, the Ralph Nader of the skin care industry” omg this killing me

The Ordinary guy fired his co CEO - her interview here shows how fucking smart this woman is: it’s less an interview and more the perfect cover letter to every high level position in every big-deal up-and-coming beauty company

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.elle.com/beauty/makeup-skin-care/amp19694275/nicola-kilner-former-co-ceo-deciem-getting-fired-profile/

Truaxe reminds me a bit of Sheela from Wild, Wild Country

Started with some 10% glycolic overnight stuff and waiting impatiently for benefits to manifest.

So the liquid nitrogen didn’t work—my test spot got darker and then just got lighter again (it was supposed to get dark then crusty then fall off). The dermatologist is giving me some cream fro lighten dark spots and recommends a chemical peel. Has anyone ever done this? It’s not covered by insurance and I’m not sure if it’s worth it.

VP, are your dark spots from the sun? I was thinking of trying Skin Laundry when I am back in town.

This Deciem thing is waaaay beyond the pale.