itt: it

unfortunately i think w/the way Hollywood tries to maximize their product, dividing IT into two separate parts in this way was the most palatable way for the films to reach a wider audience. they can easily say, oh sure the kids in Pt 1 and the adults in Pt 2 and be done with it, they don't even have to be structurally clever or interesting.

obviously a weird decision but i mean this is an industry that turned a 300 page kids' book into a 9 hour trilogy just to get the most bang for their buck.

maybe not "weird" per se, it makes perfect sense, but it's the easy way out.

THIS STUPID MOVIE HAS CGI BLOOD IN LIKE THE FIRST 5 MINUTES. JUST USE REAL FAKE BLOOD, FUCKING IDIOTS. ALSO EVERYTHING DOESN'T HAVE TO BE STRANGER THINGS, DICKHEADS!

when that diaper baby "every one floats down here bobby" or whatever scene the baby boy gets dragged and it's like the worst cgi blood in the history of the medium fuck fyck fuckfyewhfoi

it's like the worst cgi blood in the history of the medium

why is this bad tho

because it look stup and dumb and not goopy and drippy

and like filmmakers that dont just drag a baby boy and use real fake blood in a fuckin HORROR MOVIE in a scene where a boy is dragged and blood is there are just shitty filmmakers by default and they should just kill themselves. also that stupid clown dance was stupid and for idiots.

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WOW REAL SCARY

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I MEAN WOW REAL SCARY

kurt, did you miss the part in the book where he's a russian cossack dancer pumping up a bicycle tire and kinda angry sad about it?

I have no opinions about cgi blood but I agree that the dance is scary

lol, what are those props back there anyway? Like the thing he kicks?

one of the central ideas/qualities of 'it' is that it is eternal & cyclical, and by flipping back and forth between the 50s and the 80s in the book, demonstrating how nothing has changed in the future even as the kids struggle and fight and do their best in teh 50s

someone said in an interview that the kids are gonna return for flashbacks in part 2. but yes, even though the adult story is less interesting imo, the cutting back and forth was super disorienting and helped build up that sense of dread.

Don't most productions these days use CGI blood, since it's a lot cheaper than resetting with freshly cleaned up actors and new squibs?

cgi blood is not cheaper than just dumping some liquid on the floor and filming it. it's done out of laziness.

the most drippy goopy scary movies ever made are the lowest of the low budgets.

and cgi blood does have its place i guess, but this particular instance just looked so BAD

cgi blood was used v effectively and beautifully in the tv series hannibal

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Things were certainly gloopier back then

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the fake blood in the chinese detective series WHEN A SNAIL FALLS IN LOVE (which everyone shd be watching as it is interesting) is a mysterious orange colour
luxury, criminal decadence, martial-arts cops and profiling on the streets of the people's republic of china: WHEN A SNAIL FALLS IN LOVE

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Wow things were also drippy back then kurt I think you're into something

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Should have been that image, my beautiful joke is ruined

the ponytails were longer back then

Re Jon Boy and his drippiness the 1990 version has one of my favourite unintentionally funny moments when bill is furiously tapping out his latest novel, obviously meant to be a Stephen King stand-in, and you hear the words in v.o. as he types them and it's complete fucking flannel, and then he leans back and whispers to himself "yeah. yeah."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE1oX0A-qKk

It's exactly 1 minute in here

the pile of cocaine must have been just offscreen

The only other good thing in the adults part of that miniseries is ben the architect's apartment

"hampstead heath, england"

s/b "west england"" iirc

xp: he's got a french horn or something up here, right?

Also, love the phrase "complete fucking flannel".

Yeah the horn is hung on the wall! He also has some crazy chairs iirc and the headboard on his bed is adorned with i) pictures of pies and ii) the letter π

It's an amazing idea of what a hotshot architect's apartment might look like

Can't find a pic ☹️

Schwitterz makes compelling case itt folks

There's a chapter in the book that says

chapter x

Nothing much happened for the rest of the summer

In always liked that

it's a rip from a chapter in something wicked this way comes: "Nothing much else happened, all the rest of that night." king book v indebted to something wicked in general imo. needful things too prob.

I've never actually read the books, but I watched the 90s miniseries A LOT as a kid and still have a soft spot for it despite it being mostly terrible (I think I told this story on ILX before, about being around age 9 and climbing into the fridge to scare my younger cousins, right after we first watched it lol). I feel like kids today might feel the same way about this film eventually.

Anyway, Tim Curry >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skarsgard. And in both the film and the miniseries, the kid actors are the best (RIP Jonathan Brandis <3). Finn Wolfhard does seem like he's destined for a Seth Green-esque career, too.

I really hope not.

This thread title keeps making me think of Faith No More's "Epic"

wins!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wXk1jqgHC4

I hadn't noticed the armadillo bolo tie before.

Haha so I kind of misremembered every detail (don't think I ever noticed the basketball net either)

ok this thread said almost everything I thought; except I found the kids all pretty irritating in this, particularly stranger things kid. also there is just no real sense of tension or foreboding doom, just jump scares (that aren't scary).

idk I never really expected major scares in this one, it's just as much a coming of age story.

clowns aren't that scary in 2018 also

Well just from the source material I was expecting more of an effort to be scary, since it is largely a novel about fear! It manifests as whatever your deepest-rooted fears are (pennywise himself is almost incidental and like a lot of king monsters talks too damn much to be very scary)

Recently, "Jesus-please-us" has become one of my go-to involuntary exclamations. A stupid imp from the recesses of my brain when simpler swears should suffice. I thought it was just something I had picked up from my mom, but it would be out of character for her to take the Lord's name in vain. Then it hit me:

"Lookit that gut!" Henry cried in amazed disgust. "Jesus-please-us!"
Victor and Belch laughed some more.

"How deep do you think we are, Eddie?" Richie asked.
"Quarter of a mile," Eddie said. "Maybe more."
"Jesus-please-us," Beverly said.

Per google, it pops up in half a dozen or so of King's other works as well.

That's one of the more tolerable of king's "colourful" twee minced oaths, also yes one that people actually say irl

Marginally better than "jeezum crow" I guess.

lisey's story is legit unbearable due to that shit, it's the epitome of king's "every character is Ned Flanders with Tourette's" dreadful babytalk dialogue (I haven't read in a while but I'm pretty sure misery is the only time this has ever worked). I guess you don't get to be Stephen King by having a sense of embarrassment but all the doodlycunt fartboogeroony stuff is difficult, difficult work to get through

finally let my daughter watch this movie after realizing it's just another stupid horror movie and not quite like the book, thank goodness. I think she was suitably disappointed by the generic jump scariness of it.

Marginally better than "jeezum crow" I guess.

Laws, yes!