A Steven Spielberg Poll (1994-2018)

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Saving Private Ryan probably had the biggest impact on filmmaking out of any of these. The first hour of War of the Worlds is very intense and disturbing, but it kind of falls apart after that.

Moodles, Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:29 (four months ago) Permalink

Catch Me If You Can is always an enjoyable watch. Rest of them I could easily live without seeing again.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:30 (four months ago) Permalink

The ending of A.I. is unforgivably bad

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:31 (four months ago) Permalink

WotW might get my vote but it really does lag in that second half, occasional beautifully apocalyptic imagery aside.

Munich is outstanding almost throughout but he sure botched a couple of those scenes in a major way and i think his handling of a pair of the assassination scenes was a bit too studied somehow, they just felt wrong.

omar little, Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:31 (four months ago) Permalink

End of AI is one of my favorites. Ends of War of the Worlds and SPR really mess things up. End of Minority Report likewise a letdown.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:33 (four months ago) Permalink

Spielberg butchering AI taking the fucking cake

i'm not going here again, but what you think is wrong

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:34 (four months ago) Permalink

ok IT'S STANLEY'S ENDING bye

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:34 (four months ago) Permalink

Not sure I understand how SPR's ending is out of line with the rest of the movie.

Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:37 (four months ago) Permalink

Good man speech is lame (iirc) and misleading face morph.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:38 (four months ago) Permalink

so easy. war of the worlds in a landslide.

scott seward, Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:49 (four months ago) Permalink

Good directors judge if an ending is working or not then change it if they need to.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:51 (four months ago) Permalink

SPR is basically if The Dirty Dozen was a violent Lifetime movie but i like it.

omar little, Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:53 (four months ago) Permalink

as far as the rest go:

The Lost World: Jurassic Park (1997) nice if you are ten.
Amistad (1997) boring.
Saving Private Ryan (1998) cool first scene. its no big red one.
A.I. Artificial Intelligence (2001) zzzzzz....
Minority Report (2002) stupid.
Catch Me If You Can (2002) would have been better if an adult had played the lead.
The Terminal (2004) dumb.
War of the Worlds (2005) best movie of 2005.
Munich (2005) never saw it but i'm sure it's riveting. as riveting as david mamet's The Unit? time will tell. if i ever watch the movie.
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (2008) great if you are nine.
The Adventures of Tintin (2011) horrible and endless.
War Horse (2011) whatever.
Lincoln (2012) yeah, no, it's 8 hours long, right?
Bridge of Spies (2015) can't remember what this is.
The BFG (2016) no way in hell i am watching robin williams robot terrorize children. i already had to live through Hook.
The Post (2017) have no idea.
Ready Player One (2018) no.

scott seward, Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:54 (four months ago) Permalink

munich is a brilliant film, hard to vote for others.

Also enjoyed:
catch me if you can
minority report
SPR
Lincoln

hoooyaaargh it's me satan (voodoo chili), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:57 (four months ago) Permalink

Looking over the complete list, I've still never seen Always, Amistad, The Terminal, War Horse, Bridge of Spies or BFG.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:57 (four months ago) Permalink

as riveting as david mamet's The Unit?

unfamiliar with this, but usu the creator being a crazed Zionist isn't productive

Mark Rylance was the BFG

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:59 (four months ago) Permalink

Mark Rylance is ...

"The BFG"

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:00 (four months ago) Permalink

1) A.I.
2) Bridge of Spies
3) Munich

Haven’t seen Terminal or Lincoln, and Post looks too drab to even MoviePass

rb (soda), Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:00 (four months ago) Permalink

I still feel annoyed at not being properly warned about how long and how boring Lincoln was.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:00 (four months ago) Permalink

i'm not going here again, but what you think is wrong

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, February 1, 2018 8:34 PM (twenty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Tbf I was mostly baiting you. Your show of restraint is impressive.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:04 (four months ago) Permalink

as is, speaking of Hook, your refusal to age

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:05 (four months ago) Permalink

C-

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:08 (four months ago) Permalink

i'd like to see the terminal again.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:24 (four months ago) Permalink

Catch Me If You Can, if only because it is by far the most fun I've had watching a new Spielberg movie since the original JP.

iCloudius (cryptosicko), Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:38 (four months ago) Permalink

my inclination's to go straight for the munich/wotw decision point but: i haven't seen a.i. since the theater and suspect i like it, catch me if you can is a good movie that seems to me only to benefit from its 10-year-old lead (same way the much worse django unchained uses him), and tbh i rly loved amistad when they made us watch it in 9th grade.

had somehow forgotten about literally all his post-munich stuff that isn't Annals Of The Republic even tho it is the majority, but man it is not v good imo. indy4 was dreadful and tintin was a tech demo that's hopefully v inspirational to someone. possibly i'd like the bfg.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:39 (four months ago) Permalink

I liked Tintin. iirc.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:41 (four months ago) Permalink

Tintin had some great action sequences! Some of his best since the first JP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mVpZTGCikM?t=55

Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:43 (four months ago) Permalink

yr not wrong, it was weird, i was absolutely conscious of such while watching and also incredibly bored.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:46 (four months ago) Permalink

Tintin had some great action sequences! Some of his best since the first JP

made it 42 seconds in before the grossness, the uncanny valley, the cutscene-level motion, the "foley", the absolute failure to understand anything at all about what makes Herge worthwhile, let alone great, and most of all: the repugnantly busy over-scoring (Williams) made me lunge for the pause button

Haribo Hancock (sic), Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:30 (four months ago) Permalink

as dlh knows I'm a sucker for presidential hooey, and Anthony Hopkins' turn in Amistad as JQA is irresistible (and he's experiencing a comeback at the moment).

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:49 (four months ago) Permalink

AI with Lincoln second ( but not a close one ).

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:52 (four months ago) Permalink

AI with Lincoln a not-very-close runner up

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:53 (four months ago) Permalink

sorry for the double post

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:53 (four months ago) Permalink

Though I love WotW until that garbage end

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:58 (four months ago) Permalink

should have been a question mark after Williams

Haribo Hancock (sic), Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:14 (four months ago) Permalink

just googled and yes

Haribo Hancock (sic), Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:15 (four months ago) Permalink

Minority Report winning this last time around was a travesty. Let's do better this time, ILX.

― Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:08 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Wrong

Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:11 (four months ago) Permalink

The Lost World: Jurassic Park (1997)- ?
Amistad (1997)- vg tbh
Saving Private Ryan (1998)- neither as good nor as had as they say
A.I. Artificial Intelligence (2001)-?
Minority Report (2002)- excellent genre exercise
Catch Me If You Can (2002)- great fun
The Terminal (2004)-?
War of the Worlds (2005)- got a bit into this once it was ungripping
Munich (2005)- sufficiently weighty themes do not save a dull and heavy effort
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (2008)- fucking travesty
The Adventures of Tintin (2011)-?
War Horse (2011)-?
Lincoln (2012)-?
Bridge of Spies (2015) my review of this lazy mess in the thread for this lazy mess is the best thing about this lazy mess
The BFG (2016)- you have to be kidding
The Post (2017)- fool me ten times shame on me
Ready Player One (2018)- ?

? signifies 'this guy makes more bad movies than good I skipped this it looked shit'

Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:17 (four months ago) Permalink

Like morbs will have something to say here obviously but morbs thinks that ppl who didn't like eg bridge of spies needed -get this- *more* DO YOU SEE moments and I just cant

Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:23 (four months ago) Permalink

uh no Lincoln is not shit.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:23 (four months ago) Permalink

BOS is mostly expendable but Lincoln is not, thanks to Kushner.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:24 (four months ago) Permalink

I'll consider Lincoln ty

Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:25 (four months ago) Permalink

I walked into Lincoln with trepidation expecting the Magic Kingdom's Hall of Presidents experience but I was surprised Spielberg and Kushner concentrated on Lincoln as conniving, wily politician. It has obvious moments, but so does John Ford. Deal with it.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:26 (four months ago) Permalink

Just clarifying: the ending everyone hates in WotW is the son being alive, right?

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:27 (four months ago) Permalink

Wow spoiler

Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:29 (four months ago) Permalink

No, it's Spielberg losing interest one Tim Robbins enters the frame. Everything up to that point is amaaaaaaaazing, to the same extent that everything after is boooooooring.

Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:32 (four months ago) Permalink

one = once

Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:32 (four months ago) Permalink

alfred otm, lincoln is good, its limited scope (like the ford movie it covers one case) is used v well and not too violated by all spielberg's endings, ddl and tlj both excellent, strathairn too.

difficult listening hour, Friday, 2 February 2018 00:39 (four months ago) Permalink

haven't seen bridge of spies but i saw a clip from it the other day of alan alda like CAN'T YOU JUST DROP IT WITH THIS CONSTITUTION STUFF? and i was like man idk

difficult listening hour, Friday, 2 February 2018 00:40 (four months ago) Permalink

It was good enough to make me crave a sequel: Seward.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:40 (four months ago) Permalink

Watched me some Bridge of Spies tonight. Plenty of good value to make up for the inevitable eye-roll-y schmaltz. I've just come to accept Spielbergia as a magic realist world at this point, where folks on the train collectively scowl at you from behind eighteen different newspapers detailing your shameful exploits and subsequently gaze upon you wonderingly once they realize they had you all wrong, friend. I don't look to him for ambiguous nuance and unanswerable questions and I thusly remain rarely disappointed.

Cork Taint (Old Lunch), Saturday, 3 February 2018 06:29 (four months ago) Permalink

That's just writing a blank cheque

Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Saturday, 3 February 2018 09:22 (four months ago) Permalink

The thing about Munich is that it's supposed to be about the bad things that Mossad did, but it leaves out the worst thing they did, the murder of the completely innocent Ahmed Bouchiki. That's where it kinda becomes drivel. It's depiction of sex is awful as well, both the intercut scene mentioned above, but also the whole thing with the assassin. It's a film about historical trauma that is awful about actually depicting that trauma.

Frederik B, Saturday, 3 February 2018 10:40 (four months ago) Permalink

Munich or Lincoln. Minority Report is the best action one he's done since the 80s, but let down by a rubbish third act.

chap, Saturday, 3 February 2018 12:59 (four months ago) Permalink

Catch Me If You Can is always an enjoyable watch. Rest of them I could easily live without seeing again.

― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, February 1, 2018 8:30 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 3 February 2018 14:12 (four months ago) Permalink

lest anybody forget, The Lost World is the movie where a pre-teen gymnast somersaults and kicks over a dinosaur that weighs several tons.

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Saturday, 3 February 2018 14:17 (four months ago) Permalink

Catch Me If You Can is always an enjoyable watch. Rest of them I could easily live without seeing again.

It might be the only one of these I have seen twice - and the drop off in my appreciation the second time was massive.

chap, Saturday, 3 February 2018 14:26 (four months ago) Permalink

Catch Me If You Can is such a great small movie, and perhaps the last time Christopher Walken has or will ever be cast as anything but a weirdo.

I've wondered how recognizable later Spielberg would be if had a different DP. It's amazing that they have worked on almost 20 movies together, but I'd argue Kaminski is still a controversial choice, or at the very least, for such a frequent collaboration they hardly have a reputation as some sort of classic movie team. Vs., say, Deakins and the Coen Brothers, say.

I do say that Spielberg's '90s/'00s productive streak is pretty mind-boggling. About 11 movies between '93 and 2004, with Jurassic Park and Schindler's the same year, Lost World and Amistad the same year, Minority Report and Catch Me If You Can the same year, and War of the Worlds and Munich the same year. That's pretty nuts.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 February 2018 14:33 (four months ago) Permalink

and Tintin and War Horse!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 3 February 2018 14:40 (four months ago) Permalink

Does Munich have the most explicit sex scene in a Spielberg movie?

I’ve always felt it was 100% Kushner’s idea and Spielberg just filmed it exactly as written. Just not an idea I can associate with him. (I’m agnostic on the value of the scene.)

ryan, Saturday, 3 February 2018 14:57 (four months ago) Permalink

The one in ET nearly garnered an X-rating iirc.

Cork Taint (Old Lunch), Saturday, 3 February 2018 15:15 (four months ago) Permalink

sorry thought the Munich sex scene was entirely fitting and thematically sound

Fred, movies leave things out all the time, that's why they're not TV series, you git

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 3 February 2018 15:44 (four months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Sooo ... who's voting Ready Player One?! Nick Pinkerton, perhaps.

Unconflictedly loving Ready Player One is my heel turn.

— BANDZ STACKHAGE (@NickPinkerton) April 3, 2018

"But you have to admit the hot-girl-with-a-minor-physical-flaw thing is pretty cliché?" "NO I DON'T IT'S PURE AND BEAUTIFUL SORRY A NARCISSISTIC CULTURE OF FALSE AFFIRMATION HAS MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT VULNERABILITY AND INSECURITY EVEN EXIST FUCK YOU."

— BANDZ STACKHAGE (@NickPinkerton) April 3, 2018

"Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 14:50 (two months ago) Permalink

Tough choice between AI and Lincoln. The kid won.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 15:01 (two months ago) Permalink

Tough call between AI and Lincoln for me. The kid won.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 15:02 (two months ago) Permalink

sorry - first post didn't go through hence the repost

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 15:03 (two months ago) Permalink

Holy shit I already voted/posted/reposted to this thread back in February. Awful deja vu.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 15:05 (two months ago) Permalink

Pinkerton's twitter is consistently embarrassing.

I intend on giving RPO a shot at some point, Spielberg elevated a weak novel to classic status once, I imagine he can elevate a shitty one to "good."

omar little, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 15:16 (two months ago) Permalink

of those I've seen, after scott:

Saving Private Ryan - an expert gilding of midcentury ball hairs w/ embossed face of hanks
A.I. Artificial Intelligence - okay when the kid is not visible, idea totally stolen off kubrick
Minority Report - stupid oopid
Catch Me If You Can - good enough to justify leo
War of the Worlds - not good enough to justify tom
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - odysseus arrives home after a long absence to find a small turd on his pillow
The Adventures of Tintin - ...to find america's greatest living director modeling trousers fashioned from the skin of argos
Lincoln - aside from that, how was the play?

not quite as cool as seeing damo's wang but (contenderizer), Thursday, 5 April 2018 05:11 (two months ago) Permalink

war of the worlds. saw it twice in theaters & cried both times when they're escaping the city

flappy bird, Thursday, 5 April 2018 05:14 (two months ago) Permalink

A.I. Artificial Intelligence - okay when the kid is not visible, idea totally stolen off kubrick

huh?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:43 (two months ago) Permalink

We have to go thru the AI story a lot on ilx huh?

bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:46 (two months ago) Permalink

p sure that was a gag post

explosion from DOOM courtesy of id software (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:46 (two months ago) Permalink

Sorry contendo

bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:48 (two months ago) Permalink

p sure that was a gag post

― explosion from DOOM courtesy of id software (Doctor Casino)

I thought so at first until I read the rest of the dismissals.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:58 (two months ago) Permalink

Did it pass the Turing test?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:14 (two months ago) Permalink

Prep work, Alfred. I got internet dickhole finals tomorrow.

not quite as cool as seeing damo's wang but (contenderizer), Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:42 (two months ago) Permalink

And you're still boning up on Spielberg Bashing 101? Better pull an all-nighter.

"Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:45 (two months ago) Permalink

For students who get a 70 or below, I got a velociraptor waiting.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:46 (two months ago) Permalink

A.I. is one of the handful of movies I will defend to the death (precisely because of the ways it seems to get away from its director?) but that I cannot stomach sitting down to watch again.

ryan, Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:14 (two months ago) Permalink

(I guess it's also the kind of work where "intention" doesn't seem to matter...)

ryan, Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:15 (two months ago) Permalink

tbf, I haven't seen most of these, so I won't vote.

I will say that the D-Day landing scene of Saving Private Ryan was some of the most brilliant filmmaking I've ever seen. Spielberg also indulged in some scenes that were so thickly sentimental and schmaltzy that they nearly ruined the movie for me.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:50 (two months ago) Permalink

Have you seen a lot of WW2 films from the '40s and the '50s? Many of them are more "sentimental."

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:05 (two months ago) Permalink

Yes. That is so. But the existence of worse doesn't elevate what is bad.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:11 (two months ago) Permalink

D Day scene in '..Ryan' must surely be one of the most influential sequences of all time. I wish i could vote for that by itself.

Only saw WOTW recently and the effects looked dated as all hell.

piscesx, Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:28 (two months ago) Permalink

the D-Day scene is really something else. unlike a lot of battle scenes which are gory and thrilling and not especially a tough watch, this one is extremely tough viewing. definitely pioneered the use of the "editing out every other frame" technique to create a more jarring sense of reality, and it made sense with the industrial terror of that kind of battle. actually a very good signifier of Gladiator being shit is when Ridley Scott used that same technique in that film's battle scenes, just trying to make the film and its boring story more dynamic and deciding to use a technique that simply didn't belong or make sense.

omar little, Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:54 (two months ago) Permalink


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