A Steven Spielberg Poll (1994-2018)

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I still feel annoyed at not being properly warned about how long and how boring Lincoln was.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:00 (four months ago) Permalink

i'm not going here again, but what you think is wrong

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, February 1, 2018 8:34 PM (twenty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Tbf I was mostly baiting you. Your show of restraint is impressive.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:04 (four months ago) Permalink

as is, speaking of Hook, your refusal to age

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:05 (four months ago) Permalink

C-

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:08 (four months ago) Permalink

i'd like to see the terminal again.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:24 (four months ago) Permalink

Catch Me If You Can, if only because it is by far the most fun I've had watching a new Spielberg movie since the original JP.

iCloudius (cryptosicko), Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:38 (four months ago) Permalink

my inclination's to go straight for the munich/wotw decision point but: i haven't seen a.i. since the theater and suspect i like it, catch me if you can is a good movie that seems to me only to benefit from its 10-year-old lead (same way the much worse django unchained uses him), and tbh i rly loved amistad when they made us watch it in 9th grade.

had somehow forgotten about literally all his post-munich stuff that isn't Annals Of The Republic even tho it is the majority, but man it is not v good imo. indy4 was dreadful and tintin was a tech demo that's hopefully v inspirational to someone. possibly i'd like the bfg.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:39 (four months ago) Permalink

I liked Tintin. iirc.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:41 (four months ago) Permalink

Tintin had some great action sequences! Some of his best since the first JP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mVpZTGCikM?t=55

Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:43 (four months ago) Permalink

yr not wrong, it was weird, i was absolutely conscious of such while watching and also incredibly bored.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:46 (four months ago) Permalink

Tintin had some great action sequences! Some of his best since the first JP

made it 42 seconds in before the grossness, the uncanny valley, the cutscene-level motion, the "foley", the absolute failure to understand anything at all about what makes Herge worthwhile, let alone great, and most of all: the repugnantly busy over-scoring (Williams) made me lunge for the pause button

Haribo Hancock (sic), Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:30 (four months ago) Permalink

as dlh knows I'm a sucker for presidential hooey, and Anthony Hopkins' turn in Amistad as JQA is irresistible (and he's experiencing a comeback at the moment).

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:49 (four months ago) Permalink

AI with Lincoln second ( but not a close one ).

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:52 (four months ago) Permalink

AI with Lincoln a not-very-close runner up

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:53 (four months ago) Permalink

sorry for the double post

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:53 (four months ago) Permalink

Though I love WotW until that garbage end

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:58 (four months ago) Permalink

should have been a question mark after Williams

Haribo Hancock (sic), Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:14 (four months ago) Permalink

just googled and yes

Haribo Hancock (sic), Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:15 (four months ago) Permalink

Minority Report winning this last time around was a travesty. Let's do better this time, ILX.

― Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:08 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Wrong

Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:11 (four months ago) Permalink

The Lost World: Jurassic Park (1997)- ?
Amistad (1997)- vg tbh
Saving Private Ryan (1998)- neither as good nor as had as they say
A.I. Artificial Intelligence (2001)-?
Minority Report (2002)- excellent genre exercise
Catch Me If You Can (2002)- great fun
The Terminal (2004)-?
War of the Worlds (2005)- got a bit into this once it was ungripping
Munich (2005)- sufficiently weighty themes do not save a dull and heavy effort
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (2008)- fucking travesty
The Adventures of Tintin (2011)-?
War Horse (2011)-?
Lincoln (2012)-?
Bridge of Spies (2015) my review of this lazy mess in the thread for this lazy mess is the best thing about this lazy mess
The BFG (2016)- you have to be kidding
The Post (2017)- fool me ten times shame on me
Ready Player One (2018)- ?

? signifies 'this guy makes more bad movies than good I skipped this it looked shit'

Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:17 (four months ago) Permalink

Like morbs will have something to say here obviously but morbs thinks that ppl who didn't like eg bridge of spies needed -get this- *more* DO YOU SEE moments and I just cant

Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:23 (four months ago) Permalink

uh no Lincoln is not shit.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:23 (four months ago) Permalink

BOS is mostly expendable but Lincoln is not, thanks to Kushner.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:24 (four months ago) Permalink

I'll consider Lincoln ty

Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:25 (four months ago) Permalink

I walked into Lincoln with trepidation expecting the Magic Kingdom's Hall of Presidents experience but I was surprised Spielberg and Kushner concentrated on Lincoln as conniving, wily politician. It has obvious moments, but so does John Ford. Deal with it.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:26 (four months ago) Permalink

Just clarifying: the ending everyone hates in WotW is the son being alive, right?

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:27 (four months ago) Permalink

Wow spoiler

Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:29 (four months ago) Permalink

No, it's Spielberg losing interest one Tim Robbins enters the frame. Everything up to that point is amaaaaaaaazing, to the same extent that everything after is boooooooring.

Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:32 (four months ago) Permalink

one = once

Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:32 (four months ago) Permalink

alfred otm, lincoln is good, its limited scope (like the ford movie it covers one case) is used v well and not too violated by all spielberg's endings, ddl and tlj both excellent, strathairn too.

difficult listening hour, Friday, 2 February 2018 00:39 (four months ago) Permalink

haven't seen bridge of spies but i saw a clip from it the other day of alan alda like CAN'T YOU JUST DROP IT WITH THIS CONSTITUTION STUFF? and i was like man idk

difficult listening hour, Friday, 2 February 2018 00:40 (four months ago) Permalink

It was good enough to make me crave a sequel: Seward.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:40 (four months ago) Permalink

sally field also terrific iirc.

difficult listening hour, Friday, 2 February 2018 00:41 (four months ago) Permalink

Yeah! Tommy Lee Jones and Bruce McGill too. A fully inhabited world.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:44 (four months ago) Permalink

i've only seen a few of these but adventures of tintin is the one i remember enjoying the most.

The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:48 (four months ago) Permalink

I like that Spielberg made a kind of historical atrocity trilogy in Schindler, Amistad and Ryan, and then made a kind of trilogy of followups in Munich, Lincoln and Bridge of Spies. Three films which is mainly about how we survivors are indebted to those who were killed, three films that studies how that debt was in actuality handled. I should write something about that someday. Anyways, the right answer is either Amistad or Ryan.

Frederik B, Friday, 2 February 2018 01:50 (four months ago) Permalink

Minority Report needs a rewatch, I remember it being fine until it turned into a bad TV cop show (or a Blade Runner sequel) in the last 15 minutes.

Aside from the somewhat pedestrian courtroom stuff, Amistad is piercing.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 February 2018 02:28 (four months ago) Permalink

i remember the middle passage stuff in amistad being fully as vivid and terrible as the opening of ryan. inevitably less celebrated.

difficult listening hour, Friday, 2 February 2018 03:11 (four months ago) Permalink

Yeah, the middle passage stuff is what makes Amistad. Steven Spielberg is a good historical filmmaker because he fully believes in the power of cinema to describe the unimaginably horrific. Which is naive, and he's probably wrong, but there's a kinetic force to his best stuff, which a lot of other historical filmmakers won't even aspire to.

The courtroom stuff is fairly pedestrian, though, and he does sorta pull his punches. But I kinda think he does that in Schindler as well.

Frederik B, Friday, 2 February 2018 09:26 (four months ago) Permalink

as riveting as david mamet's The Unit?

unfamiliar with this, but usu the creator being a crazed Zionist isn't productive


The (Mamet-penned iirc) episode with the Iranian embassy had some pretty nuanced Persian characters at a time when muslims were generally portrayed as beardy terrist savages on U.S. T.V.

Wes Brodicus, Friday, 2 February 2018 09:46 (four months ago) Permalink

i'm standin' on a bridge of spies
i'm sick of hearin' all these goddamn lies

(the blues version in his Broadway show) (crüt), Friday, 2 February 2018 13:36 (four months ago) Permalink

i haven't actually seen any of these except The Lost World

(the blues version in his Broadway show) (crüt), Friday, 2 February 2018 13:36 (four months ago) Permalink

This is WOTW, Munich or Lincoln for me. I'm not bothered by the WOTW ending, it's a loose approximation of exactly what happens in the original novel regarding the narrator and his wife. They're separated relatively early on, he believes she's been killed in an attack, he finds her alive at the end of the novel. NBD.

Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Friday, 2 February 2018 15:41 (four months ago) Permalink

shocked to realize i've only sat through lost world, AI, CMIYC, crystal skull, and tintin. a range of competencies and errors on display there. and several things to like a lot. but nothing that gets me like the big hitters in the earlier period. if i were voting just on those five it'd be CMIYC eeeeeeeasy, that movie rules, but clearly i'm out of my depth here. somehow most of these have always felt like it'd be Work to sit down and watch them, even tom cruise waving his hands around and hiding from aliens.

Righteous wax chaperone, rotating Wingdings (Doctor Casino), Friday, 2 February 2018 18:50 (four months ago) Permalink

i did not sit thru Lost World bz i did sit thru JP

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 February 2018 19:30 (four months ago) Permalink

I got off the boat with Munich, which I thought was just horrendous. Ponderous, politically a lot of liberal zionist drivel, with some terribly filmed "action" sequences. The scene were Bana has overwrought movie sex with his wife interspersed with images of the massacre on the airfield is just abominable.

Catch me if you can is the only one of these I would watch again.

khat person (jim in vancouver), Friday, 2 February 2018 19:31 (four months ago) Permalink

What morbs you love Spielberg but not jp?!

scrüt (wins), Friday, 2 February 2018 19:33 (four months ago) Permalink

no, fuck dinosaurs too

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 February 2018 19:33 (four months ago) Permalink

politically a lot of liberal zionist drivel

hmmm not sure about this

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 February 2018 19:34 (four months ago) Permalink

Posts very much out of character - I thought you only liked a bunch of dinosaur movies

scrüt (wins), Friday, 2 February 2018 19:35 (four months ago) Permalink

of those I've seen, after scott:

Saving Private Ryan - an expert gilding of midcentury ball hairs w/ embossed face of hanks
A.I. Artificial Intelligence - okay when the kid is not visible, idea totally stolen off kubrick
Minority Report - stupid oopid
Catch Me If You Can - good enough to justify leo
War of the Worlds - not good enough to justify tom
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - odysseus arrives home after a long absence to find a small turd on his pillow
The Adventures of Tintin - ...to find america's greatest living director modeling trousers fashioned from the skin of argos
Lincoln - aside from that, how was the play?

not quite as cool as seeing damo's wang but (contenderizer), Thursday, 5 April 2018 05:11 (two months ago) Permalink

war of the worlds. saw it twice in theaters & cried both times when they're escaping the city

flappy bird, Thursday, 5 April 2018 05:14 (two months ago) Permalink

A.I. Artificial Intelligence - okay when the kid is not visible, idea totally stolen off kubrick

huh?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:43 (two months ago) Permalink

We have to go thru the AI story a lot on ilx huh?

bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:46 (two months ago) Permalink

p sure that was a gag post

explosion from DOOM courtesy of id software (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:46 (two months ago) Permalink

Sorry contendo

bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:48 (two months ago) Permalink

p sure that was a gag post

― explosion from DOOM courtesy of id software (Doctor Casino)

I thought so at first until I read the rest of the dismissals.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:58 (two months ago) Permalink

Did it pass the Turing test?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:14 (two months ago) Permalink

Prep work, Alfred. I got internet dickhole finals tomorrow.

not quite as cool as seeing damo's wang but (contenderizer), Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:42 (two months ago) Permalink

And you're still boning up on Spielberg Bashing 101? Better pull an all-nighter.

"Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:45 (two months ago) Permalink

For students who get a 70 or below, I got a velociraptor waiting.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:46 (two months ago) Permalink

A.I. is one of the handful of movies I will defend to the death (precisely because of the ways it seems to get away from its director?) but that I cannot stomach sitting down to watch again.

ryan, Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:14 (two months ago) Permalink

(I guess it's also the kind of work where "intention" doesn't seem to matter...)

ryan, Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:15 (two months ago) Permalink

tbf, I haven't seen most of these, so I won't vote.

I will say that the D-Day landing scene of Saving Private Ryan was some of the most brilliant filmmaking I've ever seen. Spielberg also indulged in some scenes that were so thickly sentimental and schmaltzy that they nearly ruined the movie for me.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:50 (two months ago) Permalink

Have you seen a lot of WW2 films from the '40s and the '50s? Many of them are more "sentimental."

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:05 (two months ago) Permalink

Yes. That is so. But the existence of worse doesn't elevate what is bad.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:11 (two months ago) Permalink

D Day scene in '..Ryan' must surely be one of the most influential sequences of all time. I wish i could vote for that by itself.

Only saw WOTW recently and the effects looked dated as all hell.

piscesx, Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:28 (two months ago) Permalink

the D-Day scene is really something else. unlike a lot of battle scenes which are gory and thrilling and not especially a tough watch, this one is extremely tough viewing. definitely pioneered the use of the "editing out every other frame" technique to create a more jarring sense of reality, and it made sense with the industrial terror of that kind of battle. actually a very good signifier of Gladiator being shit is when Ridley Scott used that same technique in that film's battle scenes, just trying to make the film and its boring story more dynamic and deciding to use a technique that simply didn't belong or make sense.

omar little, Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:54 (two months ago) Permalink


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