US Politics, February 2018: Our country was founded by geniuses, but it’s being run by idiots

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all these people are such venal idiots i have no doubt most of them will go down for something or other

but venal idiocy as a concept and way of life appears to be going strong

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:57 (six years ago) link

see also: history

I'm my own emotional support animal (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:02 (six years ago) link

isn't there a way we can structure society so that venal idiocy can find no purchase in it

j., Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:06 (six years ago) link

Have you considered Neolithic subsistence hunting/gathering?

I'm my own emotional support animal (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:09 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I've come to the conclusion that that's pretty much the only alternative. I'm down for giving it a shot.

Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:15 (six years ago) link

All should appreciate the FBI speaking up. I wish more of our leaders would. But take heart: American history shows that, in the long run, weasels and liars never hold the field, so long as good people stand up. Not a lot of schools or streets named for Joe McCarthy.

— James Comey (@Comey) February 1, 2018

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:26 (six years ago) link

haha wow

Pumpkin Soup and Mandy Patinkin (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:28 (six years ago) link

james comey is such a sanctimonious prick

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:29 (six years ago) link

The FBI's headquarters is the J. Edgar Hoover building https://t.co/d1yEfb53VM

— slackbot (@pareene) February 1, 2018

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:29 (six years ago) link

re Comey yeah fuck that guy forever. he's such a fucking doofus.

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:31 (six years ago) link

I hate comey so much

Simon H., Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:36 (six years ago) link

<3 Stretch Comey for tight troll game and trying to blend in with the curtains

Pumpkin Soup and Mandy Patinkin (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:36 (six years ago) link

I only like Comey as the catalyst to take down Trump. Other than that ... enjoy your book tour, dude.

Re: Hoover, I dunno, Hoover was a horrible villain but he did more or less found the FBI and serve as its first head, for about 50 years, over half the existence of the FBI, so it's kind if hard to write his name out of the agency's history.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:37 (six years ago) link

Maybe we should write his name a letter suggesting that it take itself out of history.

Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:40 (six years ago) link

They could rename it the Not J Edgar Hoover Building.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:42 (six years ago) link

The J. Edger, A Film By Clint Eastwood Building

Never Learn To Mike Love (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:02 (six years ago) link

Comey is acting like the showboater Trump claimed he was...

treeship 2, Friday, 2 February 2018 00:35 (six years ago) link

He's back!

EXCLUSIVE: Anthony Scaramucci candidly recalls his battles with Bannon ("the creature from the Black Lagoon"), Preibus ("Rancid Penis"), and his undying fealty for Donald Trump https://t.co/4JGYyM4U9l

— VANITY FAIR (@VanityFair) February 2, 2018

Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 February 2018 00:40 (six years ago) link

I mean, speaking of showboating

Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 February 2018 00:40 (six years ago) link

v unfair to the creature from the black lagoon imo

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:59 (six years ago) link

That artist rendering is pretty good, it almost has a Jack Davis cover of Mad vibe.

earlnash, Friday, 2 February 2018 01:00 (six years ago) link

Per Hatch spox, he has said that Trump “can be” the greatest president ever but has never said "is"

Also, Orrin Hatch can be the greatest senator ever. But only if he pulls a Czolgosz on Trump.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 2 February 2018 01:14 (six years ago) link

There's a Joe McCarthy Drive in Buffalo! I never knew if it was named after the Senator and, if so, why. Maybe it's named for this guy, idk.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 2 February 2018 01:51 (six years ago) link

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mcconnell-urges-mississippi-governor-to-consider-cochran-senate-seat/2018/02/01/7f455d68-079d-11e8-8777-2a059f168dd2_story.html?sw_bypass=true&utm_term=.51ae590478db

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendell_Anderson

After U.S. Senator Walter Mondale was elected vice president in 1976, the governor needed to appoint Mondale's successor. Anderson agreed with his lieutenant governor, Rudy Perpich, that Anderson would resign as governor, and Perpich, as the new governor, would appoint Anderson senator.

In what became known as the "Minnesota Massacre", nearly the entire DFL Party ticket was defeated in 1978, including Perpich and the candidates for both U.S. Senate seats, Anderson and Bob Short. Anderson's arrangement to have himself appointed to the Senate—and Perpich's role in that appointment—were deemed central factors in the defeats.

j., Friday, 2 February 2018 03:18 (six years ago) link

BTW, didn't all these GOP dum dums just maintain current FISA standards powers as of, like, a week or two ago?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 February 2018 04:05 (six years ago) link

if i remember high school history correctly, there was a Joe McCarthy Richard Nixon Studebaker, who was famous for his family brand of television sets

Righteous wax chaperone, rotating Wingdings (Doctor Casino), Friday, 2 February 2018 04:10 (six years ago) link

goddamn you for making me google that

akm, Friday, 2 February 2018 05:06 (six years ago) link

Ladies and Gentlemen, this is a bulletin from CBS News... JFK. Blown Away. What Else Do We Have to Say?

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 2 February 2018 05:12 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNfbcSBib64

erry red flag (f. hazel), Friday, 2 February 2018 05:24 (six years ago) link

he's tweetin'

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 February 2018 12:35 (six years ago) link

"Rank & File are great people!"

???

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 2 February 2018 12:38 (six years ago) link

ok, if this memo is released, does Christopher Wray resign? Should he resign? Is it better or worse if he doesn't resign?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 February 2018 12:48 (six years ago) link

Yeah I'm not sure how to feel about that. But get ready for your next Deputy AG, Rachel Lee Brand. Graduate of Antonin Scalia Law School.

I'm sure everything will be just fine.

Pumpkin Soup and Mandy Patinkin (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 2 February 2018 12:53 (six years ago) link

surprise: the "rank-and-file" comment originated with President Hannity.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia/trump-blasts-fbi-justice-dept-bosses-in-showdown-over-republican-memo-idUSKBN1FM1FD

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 February 2018 13:01 (six years ago) link

It’s hard for me to get excited about any of this. Of the 10,000 reasons Trump should not be president that Don Jr. meeting is like number 4,000. There have been dirtier campaign tactics than Trump alluding darkly to the contents of the leaked emails—remember the Swift Boat ads?

treeship 2, Friday, 2 February 2018 13:07 (six years ago) link

"Rank & File are great people!"

I've always been curious about 80s cowpunk. Maybe I should check those guys out. There's a compilation of their two Slash albums on Spotify...

https://open.spotify.com/album/4gRMsuakBOjK66HxAEYMXc?si=4z7I24DCTty15fMBED8n2Q

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 2 February 2018 13:08 (six years ago) link

Acting ICE director: Politicians in sanctuary cities should be arrested and charged with crimes https://t.co/vmea2zKnvU pic.twitter.com/UrxuIURPMr

— The Hill (@thehill) January 3, 2018

by the light of the burning Citroën, Friday, 2 February 2018 13:11 (six years ago) link

Wasn't there a story from last year about the possibility that Christopher Wray was already heavily compromised by things he did with Christie re the Bridgegate scandal? I was wondering how he was bearing up prior to the current situation.

Stevolende, Friday, 2 February 2018 13:12 (six years ago) link

i'd like to see him try

xpost

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 2 February 2018 13:12 (six years ago) link

The investigation probably is politically motivated to be honest. Mueller is turning over every rock to find financial crimes that obviously exist but are probably disconnected from the original narrative of “Russian interference in the election.” I’m not saying it isn’t understandable — Trump is a scumbag who disgraces the nation at best and an unhinged national security threat at worst — but I don’t think this is world’s away from the Starr report and I’m not going to faint with horror that Republicans are trying to disrupt it. Trump brought it all on himself by firing Comey and incriminating himself of course but he’s a dumb caveman.

treeship 2, Friday, 2 February 2018 13:12 (six years ago) link

What is the political motive of Republican Mueller, appointed by Republican Rod Rosenstein, after Trump fired Republican James Comey?

by the light of the burning Citroën, Friday, 2 February 2018 13:17 (six years ago) link

Not necessarily partisan but I don’t think these people want Trump to be president.

treeship 2, Friday, 2 February 2018 13:19 (six years ago) link

The republicans in congress i guess are onboard but my suspicion is that career intelligence officials realize this is a catastrophe. Also when it all started it wasn’t clear what kind of “republican” he would be — Bannon was still there

treeship 2, Friday, 2 February 2018 13:20 (six years ago) link

I don’t think this is world’s away from the Starr report

respectfully disagree -- starr started out investigating white water, which had zero to do with monica lewinsky. mueller is investigating russian interference in the election, especially quid pro quo with the trump campaign; trump's past crimes laundering money for russians is related to that

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 2 February 2018 13:22 (six years ago) link

yes - anything that could give Russia (or others) leverage over Trump or his team is germane to the investigation, which helpfully means anything illegal they did needs to be looked at. it doesn't need political motivation to cast its net wide.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 2 February 2018 13:24 (six years ago) link

I don’t really have a point except that Trump might not have been wrong that people had it out for him. That’s why it’s weird when ostensible liberals act surprised thst he would dare — dare! — question the integrity of the FBI. Like come on these people are used to pulling the strings in ways that subvert democracy. That part isn’t wrong.

For brutally pragmatic reasons I hope the worst possible happens to Trump but the swirl of discourse around this Russia investigation makes me uncomfortable. Kind of misses the point about why Trump’s presidency is a catastrophe in the first place, which has nothing to do with Russia and everything to do with his resurrection of nativism.

treeship 2, Friday, 2 February 2018 13:28 (six years ago) link

xps

treeship 2, Friday, 2 February 2018 13:28 (six years ago) link

“If I were a betting man, I’d bet against the president,” said one of the lawyers.

The second attorney, who represents a senior Trump official, speculated that Mueller could try to bring an indictment against Trump even if he expects the move to draw fierce procedural challenges from the president’s lawyers – if only to demonstrate the gravity of his findings.

“It’s entirely possible that Mueller may go that route on the theory that, as an open question, it should be for the courts to decide,” the attorney said. “Even if the indictment is dismissed, it puts maximum pressure on Congress to treat this with the independence and intellectual honesty that it will never, ever get."

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/02/trump-russia-indictment-mueller-probe-384969

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 2 February 2018 13:30 (six years ago) link

Here's a controversial take on Trump's assertion that people are out to get him: how about, rather, he spent decades getting away with shit and now the chickens are finally coming home to roost? It's like a dude who spent decades on the FBI most wanted list coming out of hiding and complaining because people are all the time chasing him now. Unfair! Sad!

Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Friday, 2 February 2018 13:35 (six years ago) link

I agree with reggie. The 'financial crimes' are part and parcel to how he became a Russian asset in the first place.

frogbs, Friday, 2 February 2018 13:38 (six years ago) link


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