Would be fun to play in a band like this. Rehearsals would be cool.
― Eyeball Kicks, Saturday, 3 February 2018 00:21 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZJlFIYV1Fs
― flappy bird, Sunday, 4 February 2018 06:26 (six years ago) link
p4k review maddeningly tepid. they gave it a 6.8 https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/palm-rock-island/
Similarly, Kurt will likely always sound a little like Avey Tare
accurate
(who, in turn, will always sound a little like Brian Wilson).
jesus christ why is this still a music crit crutch re: AC, neither of them sound anything like Brian Wilson
― flappy bird, Friday, 9 February 2018 19:51 (six years ago) link
the beach boys had an incredibly distinct vocal harmony sound, i don't think there's anything like it, the way they sang together and the blend of their voices
― It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 9 February 2018 19:56 (six years ago) link
right, so now anyone that uses multi-layered harmonies = sounds like the beach boys. this is a canard that has been parroted unchallenged for over a decade
― flappy bird, Friday, 9 February 2018 19:58 (six years ago) link
idk, on person pitch panda bear sounds like the dude who sang "sloop john b". a lot of that album sounds like a mirage of the verse of sloop john b
― brimstead, Friday, 9 February 2018 20:01 (six years ago) link
I've tried and honestly have just never heard the similarity, then again I saw the dress as white and gold and still do fwiw
― flappy bird, Friday, 9 February 2018 20:03 (six years ago) link
fwiw when this thread first appeared i went and listened to the first three or so album tracks and thought "sounds like ELO covering the beach boys"
― budo jeru, Friday, 9 February 2018 22:07 (six years ago) link
I slept on this band all last year but I've had Rock Island and Shadow Expert on repeat the last few days. What a phenomenal, exciting band. The stuff they do with sound tickles all the right parts of my brain.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Saturday, 12 January 2019 18:18 (five years ago) link
i really can't work out why this band pleases so many people in ways i can identify with, and yet the music utterly repulses me. it is a weird and unfortunate mystery and i think it must have something to do with their melodic choices
― imago, Saturday, 12 January 2019 18:26 (five years ago) link
I quite liked their *sound* for a short time but there's little in the way of actual writing, all their tracks just putter along for a bit before unceremoniously ending
― obnoxious pun (ultros ultros-ghali), Saturday, 12 January 2019 19:50 (five years ago) link
yeah i think it's the lack of variation, tunes or textural variety that gets me, comes off like irksome brash math-noodling with godawful tune-yardsy non-songwriting. the resultant limply hectic atmosphere may be enough for some of you (and the usually-imago-friendly max tundra, who called this his AOTY for some reason) but it falls on the wrong side of deeply infuriating for me and i struggle to see what new it brings to the table. it must be doing something right rhythmically - i guess i am quite resistant to bands whose shtick is polyrhythms - i wasn't convinced by horse lords at all, for instance - but this is like a sickly-sweet pop take on horse lords that accentuates everything i found unconvincing and ditches everything i found encouraging (for instance, horse lords at least develop their songs)
this sort of ogmor-on-mary-lattimore takedown is usually reserved for the 'dis hyped records' thread these days but i can't let palm be. my monumentally unpleasant take will doubtless deepen your collective determination to like this album but, as with julia holter, i can't let it lie as it's from a genre (experimental art-pop) that is supposedly my wheelhouse and yet each kudos it receives cuts into me like a personal affront
― imago, Saturday, 12 January 2019 20:48 (five years ago) link
the resultant limply hectic atmosphere may be enough for some of you
this is why no one can stand you fyi
― flopson, Saturday, 12 January 2019 20:51 (five years ago) link
but fuck, i love polyrhythms in some contexts
*shrugs*
― imago, Saturday, 12 January 2019 20:51 (five years ago) link
like who says shit like that? grow up
oh hi flopson. you're at least as big a cunt as i am fyi
― imago, Saturday, 12 January 2019 20:52 (five years ago) link
I think Horse Lords bother me more because it's such a waste of a good band name when they're the musical equivalent of trying to eat like ten dry crackers at once
― obnoxious pun (ultros ultros-ghali), Saturday, 12 January 2019 21:11 (five years ago) link
everyone on this board is an intolerable elitist just roll w/it xp flopson
― (ADVANCE) (320k vbr) (--V2) (aps) (diVX) (2CD) OST - SB (2019) (esby), Saturday, 12 January 2019 21:12 (five years ago) link
for the record i don't _hate_ imago - he's good at championing a lot of music i like - but the aggrievedness, going on at length about not just a band but the absolute personal affront to music represented by anybody who likes said bands - yeah i definitely eyeroll about that.
being passionate about the music you like is a good thing. being as passionate about the music you hate is not.
― Sigur Ros or Pomplamoose type shit (rushomancy), Saturday, 12 January 2019 21:20 (five years ago) link
this way we get everything out in the open and work through our issues. this will 75% end up with me loving palm in 2023
― imago, Saturday, 12 January 2019 21:22 (five years ago) link
25% flopson and i meet to duel
― imago
but there's nothing here that needs to be "out in the open", you don't like palm, that's fine, i honestly don't give a shit about how you feel about them, i just wish you wouldn't go around to the palm thread and drop these lengthy rants about how much you hate them, jesus that's what rym is for.
― Sigur Ros or Pomplamoose type shit (rushomancy), Saturday, 12 January 2019 21:36 (five years ago) link
If I'd known I'd spark an argument I would've help my trap shut.
(I like Horse Lords, too.)
*ducks*
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Sunday, 13 January 2019 12:11 (five years ago) link
Kept not help. Sunday, eh?
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Sunday, 13 January 2019 12:12 (five years ago) link
you didn't spark an argument, macdara, imago is always like this
― Sigur Ros or Pomplamoose type shit (rushomancy), Sunday, 13 January 2019 15:31 (five years ago) link
yet each kudos it receives cuts into me like a personal affront
― imago, Saturday, January 12, 2019 1:48 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
you really need to stop taking other people liking things personally
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 13 January 2019 15:33 (five years ago) link
I kind of appreciate that imago gets that invested in rock aesthetics and I do think he is coming from a place of wanting to challenge, engage, and appreciate. I'm loving this myself, though. Might try to explain later.
― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Sunday, 13 January 2019 15:38 (five years ago) link
Imago my man you know I got love for you but it never fails to crack me up when you get on your speak truth to power schtick as if you're standing up to the cultural hegemony of, say, the Beatles except it's always a band like Horse Lords who literally only like 20k nerds like us on the entire planet even know who they are....as if a man can't go down to the pub for a pint without some bloke jabbering on about Horse Lords
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 13 January 2019 16:23 (five years ago) link
I want to go to the Horse Lords pub
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 13 January 2019 17:07 (five years ago) link
they only have a horse lords night once a month, the rest of the time it's all "dondestan"
"I kind of appreciate that imago gets that invested in rock aesthetics and I do think he is coming from a place of wanting to challenge, engage, and appreciate. I'm loving this myself, though. Might try to explain later.
― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r)"
it comes off to me as being in the grand tradition of the dave marsh school of criticism. i don't have any particular objection to dave marsh but i find his writing more valuable when he's talking about his favorite rock and roll records of 1962 than when he's attempting to review sparks records
― Sigur Ros or Pomplamoose type shit (rushomancy), Sunday, 13 January 2019 17:37 (five years ago) link
Tbf imago hating Palm is more like Marsh working out why he doesn't like a 60s soul record when he lives for Marvin Gaye as opposed to Marsh bullshitting about latent fascism in every 70s prog record.
― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Sunday, 13 January 2019 18:55 (five years ago) link
macdara you certainly didn't spark an argument, i was just being an asshole
sund4r why do u like this then, what are some ways in
― imago, Sunday, 13 January 2019 20:51 (five years ago) link
I'm down with imago's takedowns fwiw
― Sigur Ros or Pomplamoose type shit (rushomancy), Saturday, January 12, 2019 4:20 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
if you don't hate anything, you don't love anything
― Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 13 January 2019 23:15 (five years ago) link
But there's nothing won't with a little filtering either. Unilateral negativity does tend to make the thread more about the poster than about the music.
― enochroot, Sunday, 13 January 2019 23:27 (five years ago) link
― Paul Ponzi
great words of wisdom. similarly, can one _really_ call oneself a pacifist unless one's killed something?
― Sigur Ros or Pomplamoose type shit (rushomancy), Monday, 14 January 2019 00:44 (five years ago) link
i enjoyed imago’s post.
i mean god forbid somebody expresses an opinion on something they can’t quite get into. the post was thoughtful i thought, and i def don’t get the condescending vibes some ppl are picking up on here.
also sund4r otm re: marsh.
also let’s be kind to each other please, imago’s post was sincere and coming from a place of love i think
― budo jeru, Monday, 14 January 2019 02:57 (five years ago) link
Imago, I'm trying to articulate it on a couple of listens. I was almost guaranteed to like something that got compared to both Mew and Horse Lords. I think a lot has to do with the way the tempo changes and stops and starts can feel almost viscerally jarring while the gentle, melodic vocal lines almost work like a balm. The guitar sound (with chorus, harmonizer, and short delay, I think, playing these mid to high-register staccato figures, with angular melodic choices) is really distinct and has similar sweet/jarring quality. They don't give you the kind of satisfaction in terms of formal development of songwriting that Mew do: they're doing something more aphoristic, like Wire did maybe?(Probably This Heat too but I don't know them well enough.)
― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Monday, 14 January 2019 03:33 (five years ago) link
Obv remains to be seen whether it stands the test of time but it is grabbing me rn.
― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Monday, 14 January 2019 03:38 (five years ago) link
― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r)
i can accept that, but there's still no actual answer there. god knows i've spent plenty of fruitless time trying to figure out systematically why i like some things and don't like others, because it would save me a lot of effort listening to music i wind up not liking. there's no answer there. a large percentage of music is music i don't particularly like, which doesn't make it bad, which doesn't make other people wrong for liking it. there are so many other things for me to be upset, offended, and enraged by that hating music, most of the time, just seems like a fucking waste.
― Sigur Ros or Pomplamoose type shit (rushomancy), Monday, 14 January 2019 11:48 (five years ago) link
TS: getting riled up from hating music vs. getting riled up by other people hating music
― dorsalstop, Monday, 14 January 2019 12:24 (five years ago) link
it's a fair cop, i've been extremely cranky and irritable ever since i gave up on arguing politics and i'm definitely taking out my repressed hostility on this thread
― Sigur Ros or Pomplamoose type shit (rushomancy), Monday, 14 January 2019 12:29 (five years ago) link
been feeling a bit ashamed because the bit flopson picked on really was a little too much
― imago, Monday, 14 January 2019 12:30 (five years ago) link
I can kinda get imago's qualms. I have seen this band live twice and was utterly entranced both times, but when I try to listen to their records, I get bored. They are really good at building tension through repetition, and the tension seems to come across with much more power in a live setting.
― days of being riled (zchyrs), Monday, 14 January 2019 16:42 (five years ago) link
xp no it wasn't. good lord. i like palm (i think i started this thread) but i enjoyed imago's post. good points, thoughtful examination trying to work out why they don't like palm or horse lords. it's interesting. imago is not turrican. come on everyone
― flappy bird, Monday, 14 January 2019 16:43 (five years ago) link
tbh i am also weary of polyrhythmic rock bands on record, and i much prefer palm & horse lords live (though i think they've made great records - i just don't find myself reaching for them very often. unlike Don Cab)
― flappy bird, Monday, 14 January 2019 16:45 (five years ago) link
but maybe if i was around... wherever tf don cab were from and was able to see them dozens of times i'd feel differently
some of you are being way too reasonable to me haha, I should have toned my post way down while still examining my misgivings
― imago, Monday, 14 January 2019 16:46 (five years ago) link
I can certainly imagine this lot being quite the force as a live band
― imago, Monday, 14 January 2019 16:47 (five years ago) link
what's to tone down? god forbid someone disagrees or tries to figure out why they hate a band you like... honestly perplexed at reaction to your post.
― flappy bird, Monday, 14 January 2019 16:54 (five years ago) link
New album is growing on me. Not as immediate as Rock Island, the hooks are slightly hidden in the more maximalist production. I’m OK with that.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Monday, 17 October 2022 13:23 (one year ago) link
forgot this is where i beefed with flopson lol. sorry flopson
will give these guys another chance
― imago, Monday, 17 October 2022 15:17 (one year ago) link
Grateful for this thread revive. It's like ILM clash of the titans.
Also I will check out this band and report back with my beloved hot takes.
― The Ghost Club, Monday, 17 October 2022 20:35 (one year ago) link
Ok so I listened to the new one and imago's "monumentally unpleasant take" on the previous album is still pretty much otm.
― The Ghost Club, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 03:52 (one year ago) link