the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

in reply to this drivel:

The Democrats are pushing for Universal HealthCare while thousands of people are marching in the UK because their U system is going broke and not working. Dems want to greatly raise taxes for really bad and non-personal medical care. No thanks!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 5, 2018

> we’ll do extremely well by not being in the customs union

it's his definition of 'we' that i don't like.

almost quite literally the royal 'we'

Great to see the Emma Kennedys of twitter queue up to praise JH despite he literally wrote a book about privatising the NHS.

Wrong. People were marching because we love our NHS and hate what the Tories are doing to it. Healthcare is a human right. https://t.co/Pmo2xYSqZh

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) February 5, 2018

that's more like it jc

hunt's 'the nhs may have challenges' line is like having the guy strangling your baby calmly and earnestly report to you that your child is dealing with some respiratory issues

FUCKING DECK HIM JEZ

— Ryan De Freitas (@ryan_defreitas) February 5, 2018

Best thread in response to JC

haha

cue more moaning about the thugs of the Left

I just had a quick google because I was pretty sure "the country that invented universal coverage" is more or less bullshit. turns out it's more or less bullshit.

surprised to see jeremy cunt bungling his facts, must have been a typo

Tbf on Trump, his twitter has given more publicity to the NHS protest than the BBC were willing to give it.

NZ represent!

tho of course the germ of the idea goes back to bismarck, same as everything good and bad

I'd guess Bismarck wasn't in a hugging proles mood, and was more hellbent on annihilating socialism by any means necessary.

that's always been my understanding of the motivation behind his national insurance policies but hey at least there was some carrot there alongside the stick

there are problems when the embryonic German Empire makes the USA and the direction the UK is heading in seem primitive and cruel.

whoever's inserted the current picture in Jeremy Hunt's wiki page deserves special commendation

xps -- also annihilating france and other european rivals, or at least being ready to take them on, and generally encouraging everyone in germany-at-large to have a stake in its unification

oof

the eyes really follow you round the room

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/Official_portrait_of_Mr_Jeremy_Hunt_crop_2.jpg/220px-Official_portrait_of_Mr_Jeremy_Hunt_crop_2.jpg

it's the kind of face you would pull on the front cover of your album if you were a member of a 3rd tier punk act in 1981

'jeremy cunt' would be a great name for a postcard-punk-band bass player tbf

or Robin Scott of "M" (xpost)

when Trump puts nose in to UK matters, even some of the most gruesomly indefensible Tories can pretend to be heroes .. just for one day.

whoever's inserted the current picture in Jeremy Hunt's wiki page deserves special commendation

that's just his official member of parliament photo

maybe should've took it after the coke had worn off

and generally encouraging everyone in germany-at-large to have a stake in its unification

ya not being quite able to annihilate the nascent SPD, turning them into 'social patriots' proved the next bext thing. Speaking of which how are the Noskes getting on with those coalition negotiations lol

Gammon thinkpiece ahoy!

http://www.huckmagazine.com/perspectives/opinion-perspectives/defence-calling-people-gammon/

"When you gaze into the gammon, the gammon also gazes into you."

"BBC Question Time producers are rumoured to be in possession of a “gammon radar”"

w - w - wHAT! I don't believe it!

rly tempted to start a 77 thraed where we can post pictures of the gammoniest members of our facebook feeds tbh

Baldness is optional?

last week's QT was shocking, even for QT. Gammon man shouts loudly over panel members during first few questions, Dimblebly not only doesn't tell him to pipe down or eject him, as he should, instead asks him to expand on his point and gets back to him for further elaboration after the panel have made their point. Same guy subsequently shouts over a Spanish audience member while she's explaining that she couldn't vote in the referendum without being told to pipe down by DD (that job being left to another audience member)

Turns out the shouting guy had the third question. Dimblebly refers to him by name - George Stoppard - knowing who he was and where he was sitting (in other words, not doing his search for the audience for someone called "George Stoppard"...) and refers to the fact that they had heard from him before but he has the next question.

The guy's question, word, for word...

"Given recent revelations of a series of innocent men being accused of rape and almost losing their liberty, is it time to name and shame false-accusers"

That guy really liked interrupting women, whether on the panel or in the audience. But he was too thin and ginge to be proper gammon - I detected check shirt post-mod so a possible WELLEND.

I’m fully expecting a Centrist Dad-style reaction to this, where I’m told to stop alienating the gammon as Labour needs the votes of gammon to win a majority.

Too thin, young and posh tbh. (xp)

The Telegraph is looking more like a conspiracy theorist Polish right wing tabloid this morning https://t.co/0jKuHSRMKE

— Ola Cichowlas (@olacicho) February 8, 2018

So glad the two major conservative broadsheets of record are either pushing Orban conspiracy theories or going full trans-panic / anti-academic culture war these days.

I hope they are carrying that Freemasons anti-discrimination ad as well.

Kinder gentler FBPE twitter going hard on Labour’s polling dropping. It’s not that polls are sacrosanct but I don’t understand how Tory support is still so high?

Granted, nothing but talking has actually happened yet, but still.

Gammonization. What is FPBE?

The Centrist Borg.

Check out the response to any Corbyn tweet and you’ll see them. Doesn’t matter what he’s talking about.

It’s not that polls are sacrosanct but I don’t understand how Tory support is still so high?

Not just still so high, but actually seems to have risen (albeit slightly) in almost all the recent polls. Even if the 'still so high' bit is due to people obstinately refusing to change their minds, what on earth has happened in the last couple of weeks or so to make their support actually go up?

Labour have revealed their true colours bullying that poor woman out of a job

The last aggregator I saw was from two days ago and had Labour about a point ahead in the polls on average. The only really significant event in the last few days has been the next stage in the UKIP implosion which I guess would benefit the Tories more than Labour at this stage, even if the numbers we're talking about are too small to make that much of a difference.

There are probably enough committed Brexiters, anti-Corbynites and die-hard Tory voters to keep their support around 40% whatever happens, at least until Britain actually leaves the EU.

it does Labour no harm to be away from centre stage at the moment while the Tories murder each other, I wouldn't worry until we get into another "election in the offing" situation

gammon, a knuckle-dragging Faragiste xenophobe, is definitely the slang of the year so far. Comes from the flesh-tone of pressured blood, but there's surely a link to the early 19C criminal sense, at least as the target of the transitive verb: pic.twitter.com/M7p2gVXzfU

— Jonathon Green (@MisterSlang) February 8, 2018

(JG is the great lexicographer of british slang ancient and modern: also a very sweet guy)

wow!

(Did ILXors coin ‘gammon’ or...)

i am currently staying in a mid-level hotel in fuerteventura with a bunch of other brits and the gammon levels are dangerously high

overheard a couple of cockney-sounding retired oil-business types talking at dinner last night about how well-travelled they were but they both agreed they’d never travel to ‘muslim countries’ nowadays

oh and one of them had never been to scotland

can't remember if deep fried everything is halal or not