the afghan whigs: black love

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i think in spades gets really close to the narrative quality of whigs records like black love and gentlemen (or really probably more like the twilight singers' blackberry belle). i love so much of that record

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 5 February 2018 16:18 (six years ago) link

Saw them in the mid 90s at the Town and Country. Dulli was aggro all night and eventually took a swing at someone in the crowd with his mic stand. He waded into the crowd shortly afterwards. Didn't drop a note. What a fucking show.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Monday, 5 February 2018 18:30 (six years ago) link

And Crime Scene for me. Faded is a close second.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Monday, 5 February 2018 18:31 (six years ago) link

God, the guitars on this album. Summer's Kiss makes me want to crash my car.
For no particular reason, other than the guitars I guess, I totally twin this with a Dust by the Screaming Trees.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Monday, 5 February 2018 18:51 (six years ago) link

Up in It and Congregation have become relatively undervalued over the years I think

bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 5 February 2018 19:02 (six years ago) link

It's weird, I would crawl over broken glass to defend this record but I don't really love any other Whigs records (except "Gentlemen" and even that is tempered compared to this one).

God "Summer's Kiss" is so awesome...I don't know if I can pick a favorite

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 5 February 2018 19:04 (six years ago) link

1965 forever undervalued ;_; (i think it's only sliiiightly less good than this record)

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 5 February 2018 19:06 (six years ago) link

I think Howlin' Maggie even opened the show we saw. Man the 90s were fucking great!

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 5 February 2018 19:06 (six years ago) link

Inspired to play In Spades, yeah, it's pretty good.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 February 2018 19:23 (six years ago) link

I mean, I knew it was good, but I hadn't played it in a while. The Afghan Whigs are one of those bands that once I start listening I have trouble stopping. I have to be careful.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 February 2018 19:23 (six years ago) link

1965 is my favorite, it would sound like its cover if floating in space was unceasingly warm (and hot). also dulli singing "least that's what nas says" is the best thing ever ofc

lowercase (eric), Monday, 5 February 2018 19:42 (six years ago) link

as good as the guitar tones are on this record they are even richer on 1965. eric otm

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 5 February 2018 19:44 (six years ago) link

cf. end of "crazy"

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 5 February 2018 19:49 (six years ago) link

going through the same experience as when it came out, really want to like 1965 but there's something that keeps me at arms length

one the drumming (drum machine?) is that really "90s loop" feel, like Primitive Radio Gods I been downhearted babe since the day we met/Eels/Beck type vibe

bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 5 February 2018 21:28 (six years ago) link

i can't think of a moment on 1965 that isn't live drums. "66"? the '90s loop feel is way stronger on twilight

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 5 February 2018 21:35 (six years ago) link

"crazy"'s got those super dilated prim radio gods drums i guess but the song is so beautiful

essentially i think the record has dulli's best pop songs

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 5 February 2018 21:39 (six years ago) link

okay yeah i couldn't tell sometimes if he was drumming or it was a loop, like on crazy they are kinda squashed and give it a machine feel

at least part of it is i like black love way out of any common sense and i don't know if anything would have been good enough for me, but certain records are funny like that

bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 5 February 2018 21:44 (six years ago) link

even though I only like half of 1965 I do always appreciate it when bands recognize they've gone as "big" as they can and no longer attempt to one-up themselves in terms of scale, instead choosing new angles to refine

Simon H., Monday, 5 February 2018 21:47 (six years ago) link

it isn't even possible to go bigger than 'faded' so yeah

mookieproof, Monday, 5 February 2018 21:51 (six years ago) link

even though I only like half of 1965 I do always appreciate it when bands recognize they've gone as "big" as they can and no longer attempt to one-up themselves in terms of scale, instead choosing new angles to refine

― Simon H., Monday, February 5, 2018 3:47 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah enough people seem to really like 1965 that i'm willing to think it's not the record it's me

i prefer In Spades tbh

bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 5 February 2018 21:55 (six years ago) link

1965 is great and sometimes I think 66 is their very best song (there's a drum machine + live drums on it but that's the only place on the album I think)

ufo, Monday, 5 February 2018 22:28 (six years ago) link

i am not a huge fan of 1965
i basically only like the first three songs and even then, there is some seriously cheesy stuff in there
the "who's hot, who's not" bit was embarrassing imo
while enjoyable, it almost feels like self-parody, a parade of whigs-themed sex content (the giving/taking of rides, lover's lane, "little rabbit")

however, a friend of mine covered "somethin' hot" with her band and it made me literally giddy to hear a woman singing a whigs song (that isn't "my curse")

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 5 February 2018 22:41 (six years ago) link

oh man I would LOVE to hear an all-female Dulli tribute comp

Simon H., Monday, 5 February 2018 22:42 (six years ago) link

i'll work on that

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 5 February 2018 22:44 (six years ago) link

dulli's tropes expanding into self-parody is part of what i like about that album—it's the funniest whigs record

i also feel like everyone should love "omerta" but i won't push it lol

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 5 February 2018 23:34 (six years ago) link

it's also kind of an inverse of the darkness and sadness on twilight

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 5 February 2018 23:39 (six years ago) link

Omerta into The Vampire Lanois is a pretty great closer

ufo, Monday, 5 February 2018 23:44 (six years ago) link

I have them edited as a single track on my phone lol

Simon H., Monday, 5 February 2018 23:47 (six years ago) link

Man, 1965 is great, too. Not as heavy, super songs.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 00:11 (six years ago) link

Can I vote for the final three sons??? Shit, I'm prob gonna have to flip a coin between Faded and Summer's Kiss

hoooyaaargh it's me satan (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 13:53 (six years ago) link

*songs

hoooyaaargh it's me satan (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 13:53 (six years ago) link

... i think i'm gonna vote "bulletproof" and regret it immediately

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 03:04 (six years ago) link

btw not this album but "lost in the woods" is a top five whigs song for me easy

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 03:04 (six years ago) link

went with summer's kiss. love the tension/release--that tease of the chord progression in the beginning, then the build, and then "DID YOU FEEL THE BREEZE MY LOOOOOOOOVE"

hoooyaaargh it's me satan (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 03:51 (six years ago) link

you forgot GO

mookieproof, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 04:27 (six years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 15 February 2018 00:01 (six years ago) link

Has there ever been a rock band not helped by horns?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 February 2018 03:45 (six years ago) link

Is that the Mighty Mighty Bosstones? Not helped by those clothes, that's for sure. Regardless, pretty sure they would be worse without the horns.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 February 2018 12:29 (six years ago) link

indeed, horns are the very essence of rock

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albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 15 February 2018 12:53 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2crST10hP-s

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 February 2018 13:18 (six years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 16 February 2018 00:01 (six years ago) link

‎✔

mookieproof, Friday, 16 February 2018 00:07 (six years ago) link

Went w Faded at the last minute. Good results tho.

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Friday, 16 February 2018 00:34 (six years ago) link

faded was my "haven't-heard-LP-for-5-years" pick - but got hold of the reissue on account of this thread and fuck it's all great

musically honky's ladder might be the purest distillation of the whigs sound? that song ATTACKS - but lyrically maaaaybe a bit too heavy on the michael mann schtick (it's a fine line with Dulli i know (i know i know))

umsworth (emsworth), Friday, 16 February 2018 00:53 (six years ago) link

Best Afghan Whigs cover would be a fun poll.
Kind of partial to Come See About Me.

campreverb, Friday, 16 February 2018 04:02 (six years ago) link

mr superlove

mookieproof, Friday, 16 February 2018 04:16 (six years ago) link

Every song got a vote - that's great b/c it's a great album.

BlackIronPrison, Friday, 16 February 2018 04:42 (six years ago) link

Best Afghan Whigs cover would be a fun poll.

― campreverb, Thursday, February 15, 2018 8:02 PM (one hour ago)

Amphetamines & Coffee - Paul K & The Weathermen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2203GPIlhI

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 16 February 2018 05:15 (six years ago) link

their cover of "if there's hell below" slaaaaaaaaays

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 16 February 2018 05:21 (six years ago) link


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