iirc i think that trump tweet is a fake
― Men's Scarehouse - "You're gonna like the way you're shook." (m bison), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 11:59 (six years ago) link
tbf it's about the Dow Joans which is a totally different exchange
― drugs don't kill people, poppers do (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 12:01 (six years ago) link
Dow Joans is a character in steinbeck's "the grapes of WRTH"
also i agree with the take that the dow/stock market in general got overeager and this is a simple market correction, but we def seem due for a recession within the next year or two bc business cycle
― Men's Scarehouse - "You're gonna like the way you're shook." (m bison), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 12:02 (six years ago) link
that tweet is fake
https://www.snopes.com/did-trump-tweet-president-dow-joans/
joker's remorse
Sweet mother of god. Not for one second did I think people would believe that to be genuine.— Shaun Usher (@ShaunUsher) February 5, 2018
― maura, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 14:34 (six years ago) link
I mean 'Dow Joans' was an obvious tell but you seriously cannot win by trying to fake a Trump statement. Nothing is outside the realm of believability at this point.
― I'm very active in the pegasus community (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 14:54 (six years ago) link
sahun usher go on gorilla channel
― But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 14:57 (six years ago) link
Buy buy buy!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 15:00 (six years ago) link
Wait, I mean, sell, sell, sell!
No, hold up. Buy buy buy!
if the market closes below 24,000 today, we'll have to arrest hillary and the kenyan
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 15:25 (six years ago) link
I wonder if it was the bitcoin plunge that made people wary of a similar over-valuation in stocks, and they decided to take their profits before too many other people felt the same way.
― nickn, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 18:12 (six years ago) link
The Dow Joans is a bullshit index though, I look at the Nazdack and the S in P
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 18:55 (six years ago) link
darling nikkei
― But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, February 6, 2018 11:04 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^^ underrated post
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 18:59 (six years ago) link
Read that as "Nazidack" - i need to go home.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 03:36 (six years ago) link
i guess this is what "the markets" are worried about
This Economist cover might become a classic. What happens when the govt delivers huge fiscal stimulus, nine years into the business cycle. We are about to find out. pic.twitter.com/NsCn0J9EkP— Joseph Lake (@EconomistLake) February 8, 2018
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 8 February 2018 16:20 (six years ago) link
https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2018/02/07/2198503/someone-is-wrong-on-the-internet-wages-and-the-stock-market-edition/
login required, but tldr this argues:
- wages aren't actually rising that fast - low income wages certainly aren't rising that fast (these are the people who spend a greater fraction of their income, and thus have more influence on consumer spending) - bankers think wages are rising because bankers' wages are rising
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 8 February 2018 16:29 (six years ago) link
my smart former philosopher hedge fund friend says it's just a minor correction since the market has been growing so much and he's not particularly worried
― Mordy, Thursday, 8 February 2018 16:48 (six years ago) link
My question for Joseph Lake would be why did it take 9 years for us to find out and what is it about now that's bringing the chickens home to roost? And I don't mean that rhetorically either, I'm not sure that isn't what's happening.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 8 February 2018 16:49 (six years ago) link
Market still ... correcting. Apparently it did not listen to Trump's admonition that down is the wrong direction.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 February 2018 18:13 (six years ago) link
Hovering just over 24000.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 February 2018 20:42 (six years ago) link
This stock market needs a proper spanking.
― I'm very active in the pegasus community (Old Lunch), Thursday, 8 February 2018 20:43 (six years ago) link
The Fed could raise the margin requirements, but they won't.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 8 February 2018 20:54 (six years ago) link
Doug Henwood, with graphs:
Since Trump has been bragging for months about the stock market’s strength, the selloff is a marketing challenge for him. His administration weighed in with the customary reassurances, with both White House flack Raj Shah and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin pronouncing the “fundamentals” of the economy “strong.” (You might think that officialdom might be reluctant to repeat the sort of language used by Herbert Hoover in 1929 and John McCain in 2008, but no.)
When people say the economy is strong they mean that unemployment is low and we’re adding 180,000 jobs a month. But millions have dropped out of the labor force. If the same share of the population were working now as at the 2006 pre-recession peak, 8.4 million more would be employed. As the graph below shows, this is the second-worst expansion for job growth out of eleven....
https://lbo-news.com/2018/02/08/about-that-stock-panic/
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 February 2018 20:59 (six years ago) link
fake news. chinese hoax. hillary's fault
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 8 February 2018 22:11 (six years ago) link
How the fuck does only 52% of the population have a retirement account?
― Mr. Snrub, Friday, 9 February 2018 00:18 (six years ago) link
I'm surprised it's that high.
― louise ck (milo z), Friday, 9 February 2018 00:23 (six years ago) link
Results of a 2017 survey:
$0 saved: 39 percentLess than $1,000 saved: 18 percent$1,000 to $4,999 saved: 12 percent$5,000 to $9,999 saved: 6 percent$10,000 or more saved: 25 percent
I'm in the 39 percent.
― grawlix (unperson), Friday, 9 February 2018 00:24 (six years ago) link
yeah, no one is saving. the younger millenials I speak to have a bone-deep understanding of just how fucked they are.
― Simon H., Friday, 9 February 2018 00:28 (six years ago) link
does that same set of stats feature a breakdown by age group?
― Simon H., Friday, 9 February 2018 00:32 (six years ago) link
enjoying the official designations that down 10% is a 'correction' and down 20% is a 'bear market'
― mookieproof, Friday, 9 February 2018 00:32 (six years ago) link
yeah i don't really buy any of the currently circulating theories about why this is happening, prob more mass psychological than fundamental. stock markets been going gangbusters for a while, shiller PE ratios are huge so there's a lot lower it could fall (but that doesnt mean it will...)
― flopson, Friday, 9 February 2018 00:48 (six years ago) link
lol i'm in the 12 percent just from half-working a few years at a place where the contract precludes you from opting out of making contributions to the account (at this point i would really have rather had the cash)
america is really pathetic
― j., Friday, 9 February 2018 01:11 (six years ago) link
Make America less pathetic again!
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 9 February 2018 01:47 (six years ago) link
i love that the upper echelon of those savings categories wd buy you PERHAPS 9 weeks of life in NYC
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 9 February 2018 02:59 (six years ago) link
another very red day tomorrow is a no brainer technically, which means it'll be green I suppose
― trife's rich padgett (rip van wanko), Friday, 9 February 2018 04:22 (six years ago) link
lol
https://i.imgur.com/zMPlatn.jpg
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 9 February 2018 15:35 (six years ago) link
lol bloomberg businessweek cover art dept back at it again
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 9 February 2018 15:37 (six years ago) link
pouring one out for janet yellen
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/09/us/politics/federal-reserve-nominee-goodfriend.html
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 10 February 2018 19:42 (six years ago) link
keep voting GOP trump country
https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddrink/restaurantsandnews/potential-trade-war-could-hurt-kentucky-bourbon-and-wisconsin-cheese/ar-BBJeesq
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 18 February 2018 16:52 (six years ago) link
happy anniversary!
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/20/senate-bank-rules-rollback-meltdown-416158
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 14:34 (six years ago) link
TBF I think the banks have learned their lesson.
― Animal Bag's Greatest Hits Vol. 5 (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 14:37 (six years ago) link
hardly.
― maura, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 16:34 (six years ago) link
I dunno, they seem duly chastened to me. Humble. Wiser for having flown too close to the sun and seeing the effects firsthand. I'm sure if given the chance they will self-regulate with a sure and steady hand, mindful of their grave responsibility to the hardworking American people. I like to think of them as philosopher kings, myself.
― Animal Bag's Greatest Hits Vol. 5 (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 16:41 (six years ago) link
Kylie Jenner wiped out .3 billion of Snap's market value in one tweet https://t.co/pE6KIuLAal pic.twitter.com/W64JSKGvDs— Bloomberg (@business) February 22, 2018
#capitalism
― mookieproof, Thursday, 22 February 2018 18:12 (six years ago) link
Welcome to the resistance (?)
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 22 February 2018 18:15 (six years ago) link
In related news, I no longer use pets.com.
― Moodles, Thursday, 22 February 2018 18:17 (six years ago) link
I will never understand Snapchat. The shares are basically memberships to the Snapchat CEOs fanclub. Dude didn't even invent the fucking concept behind the company! I understand there's more to it than just coming up with the idea but..
Ousted Snapchat early employee Reggie Brown was paid $157.5 million in a settlement in September 2014 to close off a 2013 lawsuit he had brought against other co-founders Evan Spiegel and Bobby Murphy, alleging that they had taken his original idea and run with it, pushing him out of the company without compensation in the process.The details were made public for the first time in Snapchat’s parent Snap Inc. S-1 filing today, unveiled as a first crucial step in the startup’s bid to go public on the NYSE, which is expected to happen in early March, according to our sources.The financial terms of the deal between Snapchat and Brown were not disclosed when the settlement was first announced.
The details were made public for the first time in Snapchat’s parent Snap Inc. S-1 filing today, unveiled as a first crucial step in the startup’s bid to go public on the NYSE, which is expected to happen in early March, according to our sources.
The financial terms of the deal between Snapchat and Brown were not disclosed when the settlement was first announced.
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 22 February 2018 18:25 (six years ago) link
I can see venmo existing in 6 years or so. snapchat otoh
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 22 February 2018 20:08 (six years ago) link
Silicon Valley had better be the first thing to go when debt gets more expensive
― direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Thursday, 22 February 2018 20:42 (six years ago) link
Newer tech co's all have pristine balance sheets. Snap for example has 2,366 million in current assets, 346 in current liabilities, and 83 of other liabilities. Zero debt. When speculative equity investors dry up, maybe try to slowdown their cash burn, which is running at 2 million a day.
― It's because I'm human, isn't it?! (Sanpaku), Friday, 23 February 2018 19:59 (six years ago) link