List some of your favorite records that turn 20 this year

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Yes, Solex!

And the mention of Wormhole reminded me of Photek's Form & Function.

ArchCarrier, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 13:08 (six years ago) link

Ah yes, good mention. 1998 was about the last year dnb/jungle was good.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 13:33 (six years ago) link

Gah, and TNT. And Hollis. And Camoufleur. Quite a year.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 13:34 (six years ago) link

Hello Nasty is 20! God damn

Beastie Boys - Hello Nasty
Cake - Prolonging the Magic
Fatboy Slim - You've Come a Long Way, Baby
They Might be Giants - Severe Tire Damage

Not necessarily my favorite albums of the year (though Hello Nasty still sounds great and is probably my favorite of theirs), but I bought all these as a 12 year old and have probably played each one a hundred times.

Also have to shout out "Tunak Tunak Tun" here, the first "viral" video I was ever made aware of, also 20 this year.

frogbs, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 13:35 (six years ago) link

1998 was about the last year dnb/jungle was good.

― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, February 7, 2018 7:33 AM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Thank you for reminding me to include Goldie - Saturnz Return

And yes, I'm serious. Seriously.

I'm very active in the pegasus community (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 13:45 (six years ago) link

Ha. Never got why that one was panned the way it was tbh.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 13:48 (six years ago) link

Me neither! And if you're looking for some real challops, I might prefer it to Timeless.

I'm very active in the pegasus community (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:04 (six years ago) link

Easy now ;) Timeless is a stone cold classic imo, but SR is not that far behind.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:09 (six years ago) link

A few people haven't mentioned yet

Juvenile - 400 Degreez
Big Pun - Capital Punishment
Boredoms - Super Ae
Calexico - The Black Light
Pulp - This is Hardcore (someone mentioned it as 'maybe classic,' so here's me mentioning it as 'definitely classic')

hoooyaaargh it's me satan (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:12 (six years ago) link

Muzik magazine's best albums of 1998:

1. Air: Moon Safari
2. Beastie Boys: Hello Nasty
3. The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill
4. Jurassic 5 EP
5. Deep Dish: Junk Science
6. Leila: Like Weather
7. Fatboy Slim: You've Come A Long Way, Baby
8. Danny Tengalia: Tourism
9. Propellorheads: Decksanddrumsandrockandroll
10. Maxwell: Embrya
11. Beta Band: Three EPs
12. Rae & Christian: Northen Sulphuric Soul
13. Black Eyed Peas: Behind The Front
14. Faithless: Sunday 8 PM
15. Sizzla: Black Woman & Child
16. Vegas Soul: Pure
17. Groove Armada: Northern Star
18. Herbert: Around The House
19. Boards Of Canada: Music Has The Right To Children
20. Mos Def & Talib Kweli Are Black Star
21. Freestylers: We Rock Hard
22. Massive Attack: Mezzanine
23. Red Snapper: Making Bones
24. Morcheeba: Dead Calm
25. House Of 909: The Children We Were
26. Unkle: Psyence Fiction
27. Swayzak: Snowboarding In Argentina
28. Grooverider: Mysteries Of Funk
29. Lo Fidelity Allstars: How To Operate With A Blown Mind
30. Ed Rush & Optical: Wormhole
31. Asian Dub Foundation: Rafi's Revenge
32. Beck: Mutations
33. A Man Called Adam: Duende
34. 4 Hero: Two Pages
35. Envoy: Where There's Life
36. Fila Brazilla: Power Clown
37. John B: Visions
38. Rza Starring As Bobby Digital
39. Monkey Mafia: Shoot The Boss
40. Ian Pooley: Meridian
41. The Aloof: Seeking Pleasure
42. Total: Kima Keisha & Pam
43. Method Man: Tical 2000: Judgment Day
44. Justice: Viewpoints
45. Skinny: Weekend
46. 16b: Sounds From Another Room
47. Jeff Mills: Purpose Maker Compilation
48. Wamdue Project: Program Yourself
49. Thievery Corporation: Sounds From The Thievery Hi-Fi
50. Waiwan: Distraction
51. Common Ground
52. Mercury Rev: Deserter's Songs
53. E Dancer: Heavenly
54. Derrick May: Innovator
55. Terry Callier: Timepiece
56. Lionrock: City Delirious
57. Money Mark: Push The Button
58. Tortoise: Tnt
59. King Britt/Sylk 130: When The Funk Hits The Fan
60. The Wiseguys: The Antidote
61. Plantastik: Wak'd
62. Black Jazz Chronicles: Future Ju Ju
63. Deejay Punk-Roc: Chicken Eye
64. R. Kelly: R
65. Gang Starr: Moment Of Truth
66. Jephte Guillaume: Voyage Of Dreams
67. Terry Callier: First Light
68. James Ruskin: Further Design
69. Donna Dee: Spellbound
70. Plastikman: Artifacts B.C.
71. Jori Hulkonnen: The Spirits Inside Me
72. Beverly Knight: Prodigal Sista
73. Madonna: Ray Of Light
74. Baby Mammoth: Another Day At The Orifice
75. Klute: Casual Bodies

And NME's:

1. Mercury Rev – Deserters Songs
2. Beastie Boys – Hello Nasty
3. Beck – Mutations
4. Air – Moon Safari
5. Massive Attack – Mezzanine
6. Elliott Smith – Either Or
7. Pulp – This Is Hardcore
8. Royal Trux – Accelerator
9. Jurassic 5 – Jurassic 5
10. Leila – Like Weather
11. Sparklehorse – Good Morning Spider
12. Embrace – The Good Will Out
13. Six By Seven – The Things We Make
14. Babybird – There’s Something Going On
15. Belle & Sebastian – The Boy With The Arab Strap
16. Boards Of Canada – Music Has The Right To Children
17. Arab Strap – Philophobia
18. Quasi – Featuring Birds
19. The Afghan Whigs – 1965
20. Fatboy Slim – You’ve Come A Long Way Baby
21. Lo-Fidelity Allstars – How To Operate With A Blown Mind
22. Lauryn Hill – The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill
23. Idlewild – Hope Is Important
24. Manic Street Preachers – This Is My Truth Tell Me Yours
25. Placebo – Without You I’m Nothing
26. R.E.M. – Up
27. Madonna – Ray Of Light
28. Spritualized - Live At The Royal Albert Hall
29. Bob Dylan – Live 1966:The Royal Albert Hall Concert
30. Catatonia – International Velvet
31. Black Box Recorder – England Made Me
32. Elliott Smith – Xo
33. Quickspace – Precious Falling
34. Jeff Buckley – Sketches (For My Sweetheart The Drunk)
35. Hole – Celebrity Skin
36. Kid Loco – A Grand Love Story
37. The Third Eye Foundation – You Guys Kill Me
38. Unkle – Psyence Fiction
39. The Boo Radleys – Kingsize
40. Sonic Youth – A Thousand Leaves
41. Tarwater – Silur
42. Ash – Nu-Clear Sounds
43. Mkd – Open Transport
44. Goodspeed You Black Emperor – F#A#00
45. Garbage – Version 2
46. Fugazi – End Hits
47. Hefner – Breaking Gods Heart
48. Gomez – Bring It On
49. Mansun – Six
50. Robbie Williams – I’ve Been Expecting You

groovypanda, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:17 (six years ago) link

Oh, yeah, that Money Mark album is good stuff. And I really like the posthumous Jeff Buckley release but I guess I don't think of it as an 'album' per se.

I'm very active in the pegasus community (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:23 (six years ago) link

Just realizing ITT that I still haven't heard Hello Nasty in its entirety over the course of twenty years.

I'm very active in the pegasus community (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:23 (six years ago) link

god I still remember biking down to the CD store to pick that up and hearing "Super Disco Breakin" for the first time. life changing moment

frogbs, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:28 (six years ago) link

aw the black eyed peas were already making nuisance in 98 ?

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:28 (six years ago) link

I think this was the last year with any meaningful overlap between my tastes and the NME's.

It's sort of funny now to see Robbie Williams in the token #50 spot, as if they weren't yet sure whether it was cool to like him.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:30 (six years ago) link

It was a big year for roots rock, with Mermaid Avenue by Billy Bragg and Wilco, and Car Wheels on a Gravel Road by Lucinda Williams.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:42 (six years ago) link

I'll stick to 10:

Air - Moon Safari
Amon Tobin - Permutation
Anouar Brahem - Thimar
Autechre - LP5
Boards of Canada - Music Has the Right to Children
Gorguts - Obscura
John Zorn - The Circle Maker
Mark Hollis - Mark Hollis
Massive Attack - Mezzanine
Outkast - Aquemini

pomenitul, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:44 (six years ago) link

aw the black eyed peas were already making nuisance in 98 ?

they had a totally different style, more similar to jurassic five than to their radio conquering '00s sound

hoooyaaargh it's me satan (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:46 (six years ago) link

Black Eyed Peas were making fairly okay rappity-rap in the style of Dilated Peoples, Pharcyde etc before they went down a more pop route on Elephunk.

1998 was all about scratching wasn't it? Even all the Britpop bands recruited a 'turntablist' to perform with them at Reading in a bid to stay relevant.

That NME list actually has a lot of albums I was into at the time. Always held 1998 in mind as a bit of a noesdivey year for music but clearly that's not true. The Mercury Rev album was great at the time too. Really original-sounding, although it and AOTS laid the template for a lot of Amerindie to come

Badgers (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:49 (six years ago) link

Yeah, used to like that BEP album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5x_dmI9e6Y

groovypanda, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:49 (six years ago) link

"Music Sounds Better With You" >>>>>> any 1998 album

"Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:56 (six years ago) link

Here's what I picked at the time, I was just expanding beyond indie rock and especially digging into alt-country.

LPs:
Billy Bragg/Wilco - Mermaid Ave.
Jack - The Jazz Age
Spinanes - Arches & Aisles
Unbelievable Truth - Almost Here
Versus - Two Cents Plus Tax
Beekeepers - Third Party, Fear And Theft
Foil - Spread It All Around
Bap Kennedy - Domestic Blues
Statuesque - Arbiters Anonymous
Puressence - Only Forever
Snow Patrol - Songs For Polarbears

Singles:
Annie Christian - The Other Way
Polak - 2 Minutes 45
Pharmacy - Shine
The Creatures - Razor Cuts
Unbelievable Truth - Higher Than Reason

20 years on, my enthusiasm for Unbelievable Truth has long faded, and I probably haven't listened to that Puressence album since then. Beepkeepers & Foil are fun neo-punk, I listened to them last year. That Bap Kennedy album has probably had the most plays since then, an utter classic afaic.

Also dig:
Lucinda Williams - Car Wheels On A Gravel Road
Pernice Brothers - Overcome By Happiness
The Handsome Family - Through The Trees
Neil Finn - Try Whistling This
Firewater - The Ponzi Scheme
New Model Army - Strange Brotherhood
REM - Up

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:03 (six years ago) link

1998 was all about scratching wasn't it? Even all the Britpop bands recruited a 'turntablist' to perform with them at Reading in a bid to stay relevant.

This isn't just nonsense, it's an actual lie. Ash did it on perhaps two tracks on their album that year, and that's about it. It was a different story in nu-metal, obviously.

Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:08 (six years ago) link

1998 felt like a bit of a transitional year for music even at the time - to me, at least. In hindsight, it was a much stronger year for music than I thought at the time.

Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:12 (six years ago) link

there's this thing called hyperbole

Badgers (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:15 (six years ago) link

Nope, literally *all* Britpop acts did this. At Reading. I was there when that Ocean Colour Scene guy was spinning the decks.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:18 (six years ago) link

I believe there was a scratching mandate which some Britpop bands are still imprisoned to this day for having flaunted.

I'm very active in the pegasus community (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:29 (six years ago) link

I remember this as a year of not-as-great-as-before Wu Tang solo and affiliates records:

Killah Priest- Heavy Mental
Killarmy- Dirty Weaponry
Cappadonna- The Pillage
RZA- Bobby Digital in Stereo
Sunz of Man- The Last Shall Be First
Wu Tang Killa Bees: The Swarm Vol.1
Method Man- Tical 2000: Judgment Day
GP Wu- Don't Go Against the Grain

President Keyes, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:33 (six years ago) link

re:brit bands/relevance, that was the year Suede tried to go "electro". a bad idea it was.

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:35 (six years ago) link

oh no, wait, that was in 99.

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:36 (six years ago) link

there's this thing called hyperbole

― Badgers (dog latin), Wednesday, February 7, 2018 3:15 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Of course there is - I've seen you use it repeatedly in Animal Collective threads. Your post above was stupidity.

Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 17:48 (six years ago) link

I remember this as a year of not-as-great-as-before Wu Tang solo and affiliates records:

― President Keyes, Wednesday, February 7, 2018 9:33 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OTM. I was wondering where all of the Wu-related joints were in people's lists and then I saw the perfunctory inclusions on that Muzik list and said oh yeah. I think there may be a direct correlation between the level of general musical quality of any given year during the '90s and the strength of that year's Wu Tang releases.

I'm very active in the pegasus community (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 17:56 (six years ago) link

yes you're right Turrican I honestly believe that literally every band that played at Reading 98 had a scratch DJ

Badgers (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 18:05 (six years ago) link

Careful, the employment of 'literally' without a #sarcasm hashtag for the sake of clarity will just stoke his ire all over again.

I'm very active in the pegasus community (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 18:08 (six years ago) link

Ash added a live DJ for a year, but are from Northern Ireland, so Turrican has been exposed as a racist

Haribo Hancock (sic), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 20:20 (six years ago) link

Eh!?!

Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 20:35 (six years ago) link

I mean, I'm aware that Ash are from Northern Ireland, but you might want to point fingers elsewhere as to how they ended up lumped in with certain other bands.

Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 20:38 (six years ago) link

I was 12 in 1998 and loved spending every weekend in the record store in my city listening to every new release. I guess the staff hated me... they kept opening cds for me and I very rarely bought them... these are 10 albums I did end up buying and the ones I listened to the most that year. Most of them have aged well and I still love them:

Boards of Canada - Music has the right to children
John Sims - Palomino
Massive Attack - Mezzanine
Pole - CD1
Quickspace - Precious Falling
Supersilent - 4
Taku Sugimoto - Opposite
William Parker - Peach Orchard
Yummy Fur - Sexy World

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 20:54 (six years ago) link

The three last ones I actually heard when I was older. I was a cool teen but I wasn’t that cool.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 20:56 (six years ago) link

Still fucking cool. I was 17 and I think this was the year I went full music geek I guess. discovering the Beastie Boys and Warp Records and older music after years in a Britpop/grunge wilderness was very exciting

Badgers (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 22:41 (six years ago) link

Oh I’m missing Amon Tobin - Permutation on that top 10.

I discovered Ninjatune and Warp in either 1997 or 1998 and I was obsessed with their catalogue. me and a friend bought almost everything by them we could get our hands on. Living in Mexico this meant we only got the big releases so any weird 7” or EP we had to wait a couple of years until Napster appeared.

My music life before the internet feels so distant.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 23:32 (six years ago) link

Also downloading mp3 with dialup was a joke. We’d wait for like 3 hours or more to download and listen to this obscure AFX track only to discover it was fake.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 23:35 (six years ago) link

The Azusa Plane, 'America Is Dreaming of Universal String Theory'

― Le Bateau Ivre

<3

flappy bird, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 23:53 (six years ago) link

Feeling the love, Flappy <3 He's criminally underrated.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 8 February 2018 00:07 (six years ago) link

Come - Gently Down the Stream

timellison, Thursday, 8 February 2018 02:38 (six years ago) link

WTF at P J Harvey absent from both those 1998 best-of lists. It's her best album, and she towers over most of the artists on those lists.

startled macropod (MatthewK), Thursday, 8 February 2018 02:39 (six years ago) link

Jeez, 1998 - the last year of the pre-Napster era. Feels like it should be more monumental than it is. If this was the state of the recording industry before the internet killed it, then maybe it was euthanasia. Sorry, maybe that's a bit harsh. Anyway, not much I love from this year. The Ethopiques comps that were dribbling out that year were pretty cool.

o. nate, Thursday, 8 February 2018 04:18 (six years ago) link

Here are twenty of mine:

The Boo Radleys - Kingsize

Spoon - A Series of Sneaks
Pedro the Lion - It's Hard to Find a Friend
Mercury Rev – Deserter's Songs
Silver Jews - American Water
Arab Strap - Philophobia
Beck - Mutations
Massive Attack - Mezzanine
Bedhead - Transaction de Novo
P J Harvey - Is This Desire?
Pulp - This is Hardcore
Air - Moon Safari
Sparklehorse – Good Morning Spider
Embrace – The Good Will Out
The Afghan Whigs – 1965
Idlewild – Hope Is Important
Manic Street Preachers – This Is My Truth Tell Me Yours
Placebo – Without You I’m Nothing
Mansun – Six
Unbelievable Truth - Almost Here

the future is now, Thursday, 8 February 2018 04:20 (six years ago) link

That space was not on purpose but still somehow works. Just went down what was posted in this thread and picked out some.

the future is now, Thursday, 8 February 2018 04:23 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HH-SyqBJs4

flappy bird, Thursday, 8 February 2018 05:00 (six years ago) link


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