Yes, Solex!
And the mention of Wormhole reminded me of Photek's Form & Function.
― ArchCarrier, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 13:08 (six years ago) link
Ah yes, good mention. 1998 was about the last year dnb/jungle was good.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 13:33 (six years ago) link
Gah, and TNT. And Hollis. And Camoufleur. Quite a year.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 13:34 (six years ago) link
Hello Nasty is 20! God damn
Beastie Boys - Hello NastyCake - Prolonging the MagicFatboy Slim - You've Come a Long Way, BabyThey Might be Giants - Severe Tire Damage
Not necessarily my favorite albums of the year (though Hello Nasty still sounds great and is probably my favorite of theirs), but I bought all these as a 12 year old and have probably played each one a hundred times.
Also have to shout out "Tunak Tunak Tun" here, the first "viral" video I was ever made aware of, also 20 this year.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 13:35 (six years ago) link
1998 was about the last year dnb/jungle was good.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, February 7, 2018 7:33 AM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Thank you for reminding me to include Goldie - Saturnz Return
And yes, I'm serious. Seriously.
― I'm very active in the pegasus community (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 13:45 (six years ago) link
Ha. Never got why that one was panned the way it was tbh.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 13:48 (six years ago) link
Me neither! And if you're looking for some real challops, I might prefer it to Timeless.
― I'm very active in the pegasus community (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:04 (six years ago) link
Easy now ;) Timeless is a stone cold classic imo, but SR is not that far behind.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:09 (six years ago) link
A few people haven't mentioned yet
Juvenile - 400 DegreezBig Pun - Capital PunishmentBoredoms - Super AeCalexico - The Black LightPulp - This is Hardcore (someone mentioned it as 'maybe classic,' so here's me mentioning it as 'definitely classic')
― hoooyaaargh it's me satan (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:12 (six years ago) link
Muzik magazine's best albums of 1998:
1. Air: Moon Safari2. Beastie Boys: Hello Nasty3. The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill4. Jurassic 5 EP5. Deep Dish: Junk Science6. Leila: Like Weather7. Fatboy Slim: You've Come A Long Way, Baby8. Danny Tengalia: Tourism9. Propellorheads: Decksanddrumsandrockandroll10. Maxwell: Embrya11. Beta Band: Three EPs12. Rae & Christian: Northen Sulphuric Soul13. Black Eyed Peas: Behind The Front14. Faithless: Sunday 8 PM15. Sizzla: Black Woman & Child16. Vegas Soul: Pure17. Groove Armada: Northern Star18. Herbert: Around The House19. Boards Of Canada: Music Has The Right To Children20. Mos Def & Talib Kweli Are Black Star21. Freestylers: We Rock Hard22. Massive Attack: Mezzanine23. Red Snapper: Making Bones24. Morcheeba: Dead Calm25. House Of 909: The Children We Were26. Unkle: Psyence Fiction27. Swayzak: Snowboarding In Argentina28. Grooverider: Mysteries Of Funk29. Lo Fidelity Allstars: How To Operate With A Blown Mind30. Ed Rush & Optical: Wormhole31. Asian Dub Foundation: Rafi's Revenge32. Beck: Mutations33. A Man Called Adam: Duende34. 4 Hero: Two Pages35. Envoy: Where There's Life36. Fila Brazilla: Power Clown37. John B: Visions38. Rza Starring As Bobby Digital39. Monkey Mafia: Shoot The Boss40. Ian Pooley: Meridian41. The Aloof: Seeking Pleasure42. Total: Kima Keisha & Pam43. Method Man: Tical 2000: Judgment Day44. Justice: Viewpoints45. Skinny: Weekend46. 16b: Sounds From Another Room47. Jeff Mills: Purpose Maker Compilation48. Wamdue Project: Program Yourself49. Thievery Corporation: Sounds From The Thievery Hi-Fi50. Waiwan: Distraction51. Common Ground52. Mercury Rev: Deserter's Songs53. E Dancer: Heavenly54. Derrick May: Innovator55. Terry Callier: Timepiece56. Lionrock: City Delirious57. Money Mark: Push The Button58. Tortoise: Tnt59. King Britt/Sylk 130: When The Funk Hits The Fan60. The Wiseguys: The Antidote61. Plantastik: Wak'd62. Black Jazz Chronicles: Future Ju Ju63. Deejay Punk-Roc: Chicken Eye64. R. Kelly: R65. Gang Starr: Moment Of Truth66. Jephte Guillaume: Voyage Of Dreams67. Terry Callier: First Light68. James Ruskin: Further Design69. Donna Dee: Spellbound70. Plastikman: Artifacts B.C.71. Jori Hulkonnen: The Spirits Inside Me72. Beverly Knight: Prodigal Sista73. Madonna: Ray Of Light74. Baby Mammoth: Another Day At The Orifice75. Klute: Casual Bodies
And NME's:
1. Mercury Rev – Deserters Songs2. Beastie Boys – Hello Nasty3. Beck – Mutations4. Air – Moon Safari5. Massive Attack – Mezzanine6. Elliott Smith – Either Or7. Pulp – This Is Hardcore8. Royal Trux – Accelerator9. Jurassic 5 – Jurassic 510. Leila – Like Weather11. Sparklehorse – Good Morning Spider12. Embrace – The Good Will Out13. Six By Seven – The Things We Make14. Babybird – There’s Something Going On15. Belle & Sebastian – The Boy With The Arab Strap16. Boards Of Canada – Music Has The Right To Children17. Arab Strap – Philophobia18. Quasi – Featuring Birds19. The Afghan Whigs – 196520. Fatboy Slim – You’ve Come A Long Way Baby21. Lo-Fidelity Allstars – How To Operate With A Blown Mind22. Lauryn Hill – The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill23. Idlewild – Hope Is Important24. Manic Street Preachers – This Is My Truth Tell Me Yours25. Placebo – Without You I’m Nothing26. R.E.M. – Up27. Madonna – Ray Of Light28. Spritualized - Live At The Royal Albert Hall29. Bob Dylan – Live 1966:The Royal Albert Hall Concert30. Catatonia – International Velvet31. Black Box Recorder – England Made Me32. Elliott Smith – Xo33. Quickspace – Precious Falling34. Jeff Buckley – Sketches (For My Sweetheart The Drunk)35. Hole – Celebrity Skin36. Kid Loco – A Grand Love Story37. The Third Eye Foundation – You Guys Kill Me38. Unkle – Psyence Fiction39. The Boo Radleys – Kingsize40. Sonic Youth – A Thousand Leaves41. Tarwater – Silur42. Ash – Nu-Clear Sounds43. Mkd – Open Transport44. Goodspeed You Black Emperor – F#A#0045. Garbage – Version 246. Fugazi – End Hits47. Hefner – Breaking Gods Heart48. Gomez – Bring It On49. Mansun – Six50. Robbie Williams – I’ve Been Expecting You
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:17 (six years ago) link
Oh, yeah, that Money Mark album is good stuff. And I really like the posthumous Jeff Buckley release but I guess I don't think of it as an 'album' per se.
― I'm very active in the pegasus community (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:23 (six years ago) link
Just realizing ITT that I still haven't heard Hello Nasty in its entirety over the course of twenty years.
god I still remember biking down to the CD store to pick that up and hearing "Super Disco Breakin" for the first time. life changing moment
― frogbs, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:28 (six years ago) link
aw the black eyed peas were already making nuisance in 98 ?
― AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:28 (six years ago) link
I think this was the last year with any meaningful overlap between my tastes and the NME's.
It's sort of funny now to see Robbie Williams in the token #50 spot, as if they weren't yet sure whether it was cool to like him.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:30 (six years ago) link
It was a big year for roots rock, with Mermaid Avenue by Billy Bragg and Wilco, and Car Wheels on a Gravel Road by Lucinda Williams.
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:42 (six years ago) link
I'll stick to 10:
Air - Moon SafariAmon Tobin - PermutationAnouar Brahem - ThimarAutechre - LP5Boards of Canada - Music Has the Right to ChildrenGorguts - ObscuraJohn Zorn - The Circle MakerMark Hollis - Mark HollisMassive Attack - MezzanineOutkast - Aquemini
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:44 (six years ago) link
they had a totally different style, more similar to jurassic five than to their radio conquering '00s sound
― hoooyaaargh it's me satan (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:46 (six years ago) link
Black Eyed Peas were making fairly okay rappity-rap in the style of Dilated Peoples, Pharcyde etc before they went down a more pop route on Elephunk.
1998 was all about scratching wasn't it? Even all the Britpop bands recruited a 'turntablist' to perform with them at Reading in a bid to stay relevant.
That NME list actually has a lot of albums I was into at the time. Always held 1998 in mind as a bit of a noesdivey year for music but clearly that's not true. The Mercury Rev album was great at the time too. Really original-sounding, although it and AOTS laid the template for a lot of Amerindie to come
― Badgers (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:49 (six years ago) link
Yeah, used to like that BEP album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5x_dmI9e6Y
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:49 (six years ago) link
"Music Sounds Better With You" >>>>>> any 1998 album
― "Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:56 (six years ago) link
Here's what I picked at the time, I was just expanding beyond indie rock and especially digging into alt-country.
LPs:Billy Bragg/Wilco - Mermaid Ave.Jack - The Jazz AgeSpinanes - Arches & AislesUnbelievable Truth - Almost HereVersus - Two Cents Plus TaxBeekeepers - Third Party, Fear And TheftFoil - Spread It All AroundBap Kennedy - Domestic BluesStatuesque - Arbiters AnonymousPuressence - Only ForeverSnow Patrol - Songs For Polarbears
Singles:Annie Christian - The Other WayPolak - 2 Minutes 45Pharmacy - ShineThe Creatures - Razor CutsUnbelievable Truth - Higher Than Reason
20 years on, my enthusiasm for Unbelievable Truth has long faded, and I probably haven't listened to that Puressence album since then. Beepkeepers & Foil are fun neo-punk, I listened to them last year. That Bap Kennedy album has probably had the most plays since then, an utter classic afaic.
Also dig:Lucinda Williams - Car Wheels On A Gravel RoadPernice Brothers - Overcome By HappinessThe Handsome Family - Through The TreesNeil Finn - Try Whistling ThisFirewater - The Ponzi SchemeNew Model Army - Strange BrotherhoodREM - Up
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:03 (six years ago) link
This isn't just nonsense, it's an actual lie. Ash did it on perhaps two tracks on their album that year, and that's about it. It was a different story in nu-metal, obviously.
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:08 (six years ago) link
1998 felt like a bit of a transitional year for music even at the time - to me, at least. In hindsight, it was a much stronger year for music than I thought at the time.
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:12 (six years ago) link
there's this thing called hyperbole
― Badgers (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:15 (six years ago) link
Nope, literally *all* Britpop acts did this. At Reading. I was there when that Ocean Colour Scene guy was spinning the decks.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:18 (six years ago) link
I believe there was a scratching mandate which some Britpop bands are still imprisoned to this day for having flaunted.
― I'm very active in the pegasus community (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:29 (six years ago) link
I remember this as a year of not-as-great-as-before Wu Tang solo and affiliates records:
Killah Priest- Heavy MentalKillarmy- Dirty WeaponryCappadonna- The PillageRZA- Bobby Digital in StereoSunz of Man- The Last Shall Be FirstWu Tang Killa Bees: The Swarm Vol.1Method Man- Tical 2000: Judgment DayGP Wu- Don't Go Against the Grain
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:33 (six years ago) link
re:brit bands/relevance, that was the year Suede tried to go "electro". a bad idea it was.
― AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:35 (six years ago) link
oh no, wait, that was in 99.
― AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:36 (six years ago) link
there's this thing called hyperbole― Badgers (dog latin), Wednesday, February 7, 2018 3:15 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Badgers (dog latin), Wednesday, February 7, 2018 3:15 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Of course there is - I've seen you use it repeatedly in Animal Collective threads. Your post above was stupidity.
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 17:48 (six years ago) link
― President Keyes, Wednesday, February 7, 2018 9:33 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
OTM. I was wondering where all of the Wu-related joints were in people's lists and then I saw the perfunctory inclusions on that Muzik list and said oh yeah. I think there may be a direct correlation between the level of general musical quality of any given year during the '90s and the strength of that year's Wu Tang releases.
― I'm very active in the pegasus community (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 17:56 (six years ago) link
yes you're right Turrican I honestly believe that literally every band that played at Reading 98 had a scratch DJ
― Badgers (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 18:05 (six years ago) link
Careful, the employment of 'literally' without a #sarcasm hashtag for the sake of clarity will just stoke his ire all over again.
― I'm very active in the pegasus community (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 18:08 (six years ago) link
Ash added a live DJ for a year, but are from Northern Ireland, so Turrican has been exposed as a racist
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 20:20 (six years ago) link
Eh!?!
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 20:35 (six years ago) link
I mean, I'm aware that Ash are from Northern Ireland, but you might want to point fingers elsewhere as to how they ended up lumped in with certain other bands.
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 20:38 (six years ago) link
I was 12 in 1998 and loved spending every weekend in the record store in my city listening to every new release. I guess the staff hated me... they kept opening cds for me and I very rarely bought them... these are 10 albums I did end up buying and the ones I listened to the most that year. Most of them have aged well and I still love them:
Boards of Canada - Music has the right to childrenJohn Sims - PalominoMassive Attack - MezzaninePole - CD1Quickspace - Precious FallingSupersilent - 4Taku Sugimoto - OppositeWilliam Parker - Peach OrchardYummy Fur - Sexy World
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 20:54 (six years ago) link
The three last ones I actually heard when I was older. I was a cool teen but I wasn’t that cool.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 20:56 (six years ago) link
Still fucking cool. I was 17 and I think this was the year I went full music geek I guess. discovering the Beastie Boys and Warp Records and older music after years in a Britpop/grunge wilderness was very exciting
― Badgers (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 22:41 (six years ago) link
Oh I’m missing Amon Tobin - Permutation on that top 10.
I discovered Ninjatune and Warp in either 1997 or 1998 and I was obsessed with their catalogue. me and a friend bought almost everything by them we could get our hands on. Living in Mexico this meant we only got the big releases so any weird 7” or EP we had to wait a couple of years until Napster appeared.
My music life before the internet feels so distant.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 23:32 (six years ago) link
Also downloading mp3 with dialup was a joke. We’d wait for like 3 hours or more to download and listen to this obscure AFX track only to discover it was fake.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 23:35 (six years ago) link
The Azusa Plane, 'America Is Dreaming of Universal String Theory'
― Le Bateau Ivre
<3
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 23:53 (six years ago) link
Feeling the love, Flappy <3 He's criminally underrated.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 8 February 2018 00:07 (six years ago) link
Come - Gently Down the Stream
― timellison, Thursday, 8 February 2018 02:38 (six years ago) link
WTF at P J Harvey absent from both those 1998 best-of lists. It's her best album, and she towers over most of the artists on those lists.
― startled macropod (MatthewK), Thursday, 8 February 2018 02:39 (six years ago) link
Jeez, 1998 - the last year of the pre-Napster era. Feels like it should be more monumental than it is. If this was the state of the recording industry before the internet killed it, then maybe it was euthanasia. Sorry, maybe that's a bit harsh. Anyway, not much I love from this year. The Ethopiques comps that were dribbling out that year were pretty cool.
― o. nate, Thursday, 8 February 2018 04:18 (six years ago) link
Here are twenty of mine:
The Boo Radleys - Kingsize
Spoon - A Series of SneaksPedro the Lion - It's Hard to Find a FriendMercury Rev – Deserter's SongsSilver Jews - American WaterArab Strap - PhilophobiaBeck - MutationsMassive Attack - MezzanineBedhead - Transaction de NovoP J Harvey - Is This Desire?Pulp - This is Hardcore Air - Moon SafariSparklehorse – Good Morning SpiderEmbrace – The Good Will OutThe Afghan Whigs – 1965Idlewild – Hope Is ImportantManic Street Preachers – This Is My Truth Tell Me YoursPlacebo – Without You I’m NothingMansun – SixUnbelievable Truth - Almost Here
― the future is now, Thursday, 8 February 2018 04:20 (six years ago) link
That space was not on purpose but still somehow works. Just went down what was posted in this thread and picked out some.
― the future is now, Thursday, 8 February 2018 04:23 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HH-SyqBJs4
― flappy bird, Thursday, 8 February 2018 05:00 (six years ago) link