Black Eyed Peas were making fairly okay rappity-rap in the style of Dilated Peoples, Pharcyde etc before they went down a more pop route on Elephunk.
1998 was all about scratching wasn't it? Even all the Britpop bands recruited a 'turntablist' to perform with them at Reading in a bid to stay relevant.
That NME list actually has a lot of albums I was into at the time. Always held 1998 in mind as a bit of a noesdivey year for music but clearly that's not true. The Mercury Rev album was great at the time too. Really original-sounding, although it and AOTS laid the template for a lot of Amerindie to come
― Badgers (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:49 (six years ago) link
Yeah, used to like that BEP album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5x_dmI9e6Y
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:49 (six years ago) link
"Music Sounds Better With You" >>>>>> any 1998 album
― "Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 14:56 (six years ago) link
Here's what I picked at the time, I was just expanding beyond indie rock and especially digging into alt-country.
LPs:Billy Bragg/Wilco - Mermaid Ave.Jack - The Jazz AgeSpinanes - Arches & AislesUnbelievable Truth - Almost HereVersus - Two Cents Plus TaxBeekeepers - Third Party, Fear And TheftFoil - Spread It All AroundBap Kennedy - Domestic BluesStatuesque - Arbiters AnonymousPuressence - Only ForeverSnow Patrol - Songs For Polarbears
Singles:Annie Christian - The Other WayPolak - 2 Minutes 45Pharmacy - ShineThe Creatures - Razor CutsUnbelievable Truth - Higher Than Reason
20 years on, my enthusiasm for Unbelievable Truth has long faded, and I probably haven't listened to that Puressence album since then. Beepkeepers & Foil are fun neo-punk, I listened to them last year. That Bap Kennedy album has probably had the most plays since then, an utter classic afaic.
Also dig:Lucinda Williams - Car Wheels On A Gravel RoadPernice Brothers - Overcome By HappinessThe Handsome Family - Through The TreesNeil Finn - Try Whistling ThisFirewater - The Ponzi SchemeNew Model Army - Strange BrotherhoodREM - Up
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:03 (six years ago) link
This isn't just nonsense, it's an actual lie. Ash did it on perhaps two tracks on their album that year, and that's about it. It was a different story in nu-metal, obviously.
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:08 (six years ago) link
1998 felt like a bit of a transitional year for music even at the time - to me, at least. In hindsight, it was a much stronger year for music than I thought at the time.
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:12 (six years ago) link
there's this thing called hyperbole
― Badgers (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:15 (six years ago) link
Nope, literally *all* Britpop acts did this. At Reading. I was there when that Ocean Colour Scene guy was spinning the decks.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:18 (six years ago) link
I believe there was a scratching mandate which some Britpop bands are still imprisoned to this day for having flaunted.
― I'm very active in the pegasus community (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:29 (six years ago) link
I remember this as a year of not-as-great-as-before Wu Tang solo and affiliates records:
Killah Priest- Heavy MentalKillarmy- Dirty WeaponryCappadonna- The PillageRZA- Bobby Digital in StereoSunz of Man- The Last Shall Be FirstWu Tang Killa Bees: The Swarm Vol.1Method Man- Tical 2000: Judgment DayGP Wu- Don't Go Against the Grain
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:33 (six years ago) link
re:brit bands/relevance, that was the year Suede tried to go "electro". a bad idea it was.
― AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:35 (six years ago) link
oh no, wait, that was in 99.
― AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:36 (six years ago) link
there's this thing called hyperbole― Badgers (dog latin), Wednesday, February 7, 2018 3:15 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Badgers (dog latin), Wednesday, February 7, 2018 3:15 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Of course there is - I've seen you use it repeatedly in Animal Collective threads. Your post above was stupidity.
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 17:48 (six years ago) link
― President Keyes, Wednesday, February 7, 2018 9:33 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
OTM. I was wondering where all of the Wu-related joints were in people's lists and then I saw the perfunctory inclusions on that Muzik list and said oh yeah. I think there may be a direct correlation between the level of general musical quality of any given year during the '90s and the strength of that year's Wu Tang releases.
― I'm very active in the pegasus community (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 17:56 (six years ago) link
yes you're right Turrican I honestly believe that literally every band that played at Reading 98 had a scratch DJ
― Badgers (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 18:05 (six years ago) link
Careful, the employment of 'literally' without a #sarcasm hashtag for the sake of clarity will just stoke his ire all over again.
― I'm very active in the pegasus community (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 18:08 (six years ago) link
Ash added a live DJ for a year, but are from Northern Ireland, so Turrican has been exposed as a racist
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 20:20 (six years ago) link
Eh!?!
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 20:35 (six years ago) link
I mean, I'm aware that Ash are from Northern Ireland, but you might want to point fingers elsewhere as to how they ended up lumped in with certain other bands.
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 20:38 (six years ago) link
I was 12 in 1998 and loved spending every weekend in the record store in my city listening to every new release. I guess the staff hated me... they kept opening cds for me and I very rarely bought them... these are 10 albums I did end up buying and the ones I listened to the most that year. Most of them have aged well and I still love them:
Boards of Canada - Music has the right to childrenJohn Sims - PalominoMassive Attack - MezzaninePole - CD1Quickspace - Precious FallingSupersilent - 4Taku Sugimoto - OppositeWilliam Parker - Peach OrchardYummy Fur - Sexy World
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 20:54 (six years ago) link
The three last ones I actually heard when I was older. I was a cool teen but I wasn’t that cool.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 20:56 (six years ago) link
Still fucking cool. I was 17 and I think this was the year I went full music geek I guess. discovering the Beastie Boys and Warp Records and older music after years in a Britpop/grunge wilderness was very exciting
― Badgers (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 22:41 (six years ago) link
Oh I’m missing Amon Tobin - Permutation on that top 10.
I discovered Ninjatune and Warp in either 1997 or 1998 and I was obsessed with their catalogue. me and a friend bought almost everything by them we could get our hands on. Living in Mexico this meant we only got the big releases so any weird 7” or EP we had to wait a couple of years until Napster appeared.
My music life before the internet feels so distant.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 23:32 (six years ago) link
Also downloading mp3 with dialup was a joke. We’d wait for like 3 hours or more to download and listen to this obscure AFX track only to discover it was fake.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 23:35 (six years ago) link
The Azusa Plane, 'America Is Dreaming of Universal String Theory'
― Le Bateau Ivre
<3
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 23:53 (six years ago) link
Feeling the love, Flappy <3 He's criminally underrated.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 8 February 2018 00:07 (six years ago) link
Come - Gently Down the Stream
― timellison, Thursday, 8 February 2018 02:38 (six years ago) link
WTF at P J Harvey absent from both those 1998 best-of lists. It's her best album, and she towers over most of the artists on those lists.
― startled macropod (MatthewK), Thursday, 8 February 2018 02:39 (six years ago) link
Jeez, 1998 - the last year of the pre-Napster era. Feels like it should be more monumental than it is. If this was the state of the recording industry before the internet killed it, then maybe it was euthanasia. Sorry, maybe that's a bit harsh. Anyway, not much I love from this year. The Ethopiques comps that were dribbling out that year were pretty cool.
― o. nate, Thursday, 8 February 2018 04:18 (six years ago) link
Here are twenty of mine:
The Boo Radleys - Kingsize
Spoon - A Series of SneaksPedro the Lion - It's Hard to Find a FriendMercury Rev – Deserter's SongsSilver Jews - American WaterArab Strap - PhilophobiaBeck - MutationsMassive Attack - MezzanineBedhead - Transaction de NovoP J Harvey - Is This Desire?Pulp - This is Hardcore Air - Moon SafariSparklehorse – Good Morning SpiderEmbrace – The Good Will OutThe Afghan Whigs – 1965Idlewild – Hope Is ImportantManic Street Preachers – This Is My Truth Tell Me YoursPlacebo – Without You I’m NothingMansun – SixUnbelievable Truth - Almost Here
― the future is now, Thursday, 8 February 2018 04:20 (six years ago) link
That space was not on purpose but still somehow works. Just went down what was posted in this thread and picked out some.
― the future is now, Thursday, 8 February 2018 04:23 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HH-SyqBJs4
― flappy bird, Thursday, 8 February 2018 05:00 (six years ago) link
15
Air - Moon SafariUNKLE - Psyence FictionPortishead - Roseland, NYC liveAutechre - LP5boredoms - super aeNeutral Milk hotel - in an aeroplane over the seamassive attack - mezzanineboards of canada - music has the right to childreneels - electro shock bluespj harvey - is this desiretori amos - from the choirgirl hotelamon tobin - permutationdirty three - ocean songssparklehorse - good morning spiderbeck - mutations
― kolakube (Ross), Thursday, 8 February 2018 05:16 (six years ago) link
Albums I Liked from 1998
Angelcorpse - ExterminateBeastie Boys - Hello NastyDälek - Negro Necro NekrosBruce Dickinson - The Chemical WeddingJohnny Dowd - Wrong Side of MemphisFirewater - The Ponzi SchemeLacuna Coil - Lacuna CoilMelt-Banana - "Charlie"Metallica - Garage Inc.Monster Magnet - PowertripNashville Pussy - Let Them Eat PussyNew Bomb Turks - At Rope's EndNile - Amongst the Catacombs of Nephren-KaLiz Phair - WhitechocolatespaceeggPlacebo - Without You I'm NothingQueens of the Stone Age - Queens of the Stone AgeRefused - The Shape of Punk to ComeShellac - TerraformSystem of a Down - System of a DownTheatre of Tragedy - AégisTurbonegro - Apocalypse Dudes
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 8 February 2018 05:50 (six years ago) link
Ha! Remember being in some Audiogalaxy groups that shared DJ mixes and you'd have to leave your computer on overnight for them to download
― groovypanda, Thursday, 8 February 2018 14:04 (six years ago) link
good times
― ArchCarrier, Thursday, 8 February 2018 14:06 (six years ago) link
The intentional omission of In The Aeroplane... from my list isn't revisionist reactivity, btw. Love the first album and any number of other Elephant Six releases, but I saw them perform that material (in like late '97/early '98) before I ever heard the album and the recorded versions are weak tea in comparison. Mangum was channeling some shit.
― I'm very active in the pegasus community (Old Lunch), Thursday, 8 February 2018 14:13 (six years ago) link
I was trying to describe dial-up to the ten-year-old I tutor and it makes no sense to him whatsoever. TBF, it doesn't make much sense to me now, either.
― I'm very active in the pegasus community (Old Lunch), Thursday, 8 February 2018 14:15 (six years ago) link
Oh, the fights with my parents over the phone bill. Trying to download a GBV song that took 45 minutes, only for my brother to pick up the phone downstairs when it was nearly in, ruining the download. Good times.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 8 February 2018 14:44 (six years ago) link
friends and family telling me they could never get through to me on the phone because it was constantly engaged
― the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Thursday, 8 February 2018 16:03 (six years ago) link
I don't think I knew what an mp3 was until at least 2000. I remember uploading some tunes I'd been working on to my Angelfire site and only being able to do 30 second snippet previews as it was all in WAV
― Badgers (dog latin), Thursday, 8 February 2018 16:07 (six years ago) link
While we're drifting away from the thread mandate: I remember being so impressed in the mid-80s by a file that we had for our Commodore 64 which played a fifteen-second, extremely low-quality snippet of 'Rock Me Amadeus'. Felt like I was living in a sci-fi novel.
― I'm very active in the pegasus community (Old Lunch), Thursday, 8 February 2018 16:12 (six years ago) link
10 obscure/underrated indie rock favorites from 1998:
The Glands - Double ThrillerMyracle Brah - Life on Planet EartsnopQuasi - Featuring "Birds"Black Box Recorder - England Made MeRancid - Life Won't WaitSilkworm - BluebloodSarge - The Glass IntactThe Pernice Brothers - Overcome By HappinessDrive-By Truckers - GangstabillyGrant Lee Buffalo - Jubilee
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 8 February 2018 16:19 (six years ago) link
I loved when Napster had to block certain names upon request so everyone had to figure out "alternate" artist names to share stuff under (I don't think there was a centralized forum to do this, you just had to guess). I still have MP3s by "Imenim", "They Might B Gaints", and "9 Inch Nials"
― frogbs, Thursday, 8 February 2018 16:25 (six years ago) link
Will rep for Grant Lee Buffalo's entire output.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 8 February 2018 18:40 (six years ago) link
wow, time is merciless.
cat powermercury revlauryn hillat the drive-inbeastie boysroyal truxr.l. burnsidethird eye foundationneutral milk hotelboards of canadaairblack starjuniour kimbroughlucinda williamsmake upjon spencer blues explosion
― nicky lo-fi, Thursday, 8 February 2018 19:51 (six years ago) link
i stil pull all these out at least once a year every year
roy montgomery, and now the rain sounds like life is falling down through itBoC, MhTrTcpj harvey, is this desire?!plastikman, consumedburger/ink, las vegas knightstheo parrish, first floortarwater, silurmonorchid, who put out the firehorace andy, mr. bassie
― andrew m., Thursday, 8 February 2018 21:00 (six years ago) link
sorry
burger/ink, las vegas GOLDEN knights
fucked up my joek
Oh Cat Power! I bought Moon Pix two years later but she was my spirit animal that year.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 8 February 2018 21:15 (six years ago) link
98 was my favorite year for rap releases.
― fgti spinner (Spottie), Thursday, 8 February 2018 21:31 (six years ago) link