Quincy Jones - Search & Destroy

Now that MES has died we need QJ more than ever.

I think the bulk of the scholarly work links amphetamines to the Nazis.

this is the book:
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Hitler was given tablets by his quack that contained human excrement and shitloads of 'phet wannit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NalkOQBWeGk

So we called each other Leroy till the day he died.

lol he bought drugs from malcom x? good god

quincy jones is forrest gump

Richard Pryor's Widow Confirms He Slept with Marlon Brando https://t.co/BqBDnB6gRu

— TMZ (@TMZ) February 7, 2018

looool

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Haha, nice

Richard was more of a radiator man, Brando more a mailbox man.

And the Ed Sheeran record is great
;_;

T-Pain, man, he didn’t pay attention to the details.

xxxxxpost - in All These Lifetimes Vol 1 iirc the Beatles mostly played -- or insisted on playing -- on their stuff. This book only went through the very early recordings, but I think the very first session Martin subbed out Ringo, which Ringo resented and sort of held against Martin for many years, but after that they played on their stuff

the whole session musician rumor thing is weird to me just given they are probably the most documented musical artists in history and the BBC was way more meticulous than most in terms of documenting sessions, seems like there'd be more hard evidence if it were true.

"We shouldn't talk about this publicly" vs. "He'd fuck a mailbox!"

i mean, where to begin? incredible interviews

there's the whole thing where Bernard Purdie claims to have played on Beatles sessions too, but it does sound a little questionable at least. I have to wonder if he just played on so many sessions that he maybe played on some other brit invasion record of some band he'd never heard of and later got confused and thought it had been the beatles.

yeah bernard purdie has made a lot of claims

the whole idea that it would be the guarded secret feels very retroactive, as if when they were recording the first stuff there was any reason to believe that the band would be more significant than herman's hermits or whoever

it's also not completely crazy though, like didn't every single band recorded in LA in the 60s turn out to be the Wrecking Crew?

yes

Neil Young was actually The Wrecking Crew in audio disguise and the first album he performed on himself was Landing On Water.

plus weren't the Beatles touted in marketing/PR from the get-go as playing own instruments & writing own songs? a novel concept at the time?

guys as Simon said upthread, the Beatles stuff is the least compelling/hilarious material in these interviews. there are other things to talk about. like marlon brando fucking a mailbox

Q going on a date w/ Ivanka is a good one.

and yet it has compelled many posts to be made here. almost like different people can be intrigued by different things, crazy man.

My man just told us who killed JFK, y'all are arguing about Paul's bass playing? booo

Interview seems like charmless enough bullshit tbh

can't wait for the Trump tweet

Pryor and Brando both spoke about their bisexual histories publicly in the '70s... just not about each other.

I just posted the Beatles thing cuz of that “Beatles fuck off” thread

Richard Pryor's widow saying drugs were good in the '70s and therefore implicitly are not now erases and stigmatizes the experiences of contemporary teenagers.

— Vadim Rizov (@vrizov) February 7, 2018

would have been better without the gratuitous “stigmatizes”, but 6/10

I’m glad this interview is going viral but seriously the GQ interview is even better

that's really scraping the bottom of the barrel for woke takes imo

it’s parody

does david marchese purposely pick to interview artists who want to talk about being pisces

― lowercase (eric), Wednesday, February 7, 2018 10:38 AM (eleven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I’m sorry to jump around

Be a Pisces. Jam.

28. Jones composed the theme to Cosby’s first sitcom. Sitting with me, flicking through a book of photographs, Jones comes across one of the two of them together. “Cosby… Jesus,” he says, and moves on without further comment.

Interview seems like charmless enough bullshit tbh

Racist.

'Revered rock musicians aren't considered to be great musicians by people who know what they're talking about' isn't exactly a surprise here.

Miles was trashing big rep "non-playing mofos" in a similar uninhibited fashion decades ago as well.

Jazz musicians do this to other jazz musicans all the time, let alone the guys who played on "Love Me Do".

QJ is (rightfully so) super psyched about his role over the decades as arranger, spent largely working with studio pros and/or people that can sight read charts and stuff. none of The Beatles could even read music so yeah they would be probably useless in that context of being a good musician theory-wise/technique-wise. professionally illiterate.

ofc it doesn't actually matter to the listening public if you are technically a good musician, otherwise somebody like Dream Theater would be the consensus greatest band of all time.

Dream Theater has nothing to do with what QJ is talking about. they are a guitar mag rock band, he's talking about pro jazz and session musicians that UNDERSTAND MUSIC. yes many of them have chops on demand but they don't use them in most contexts, because they understand how a guy like QJ puts a great record together, which might involve everything from a great solo to playing 2 notes over and over. they unlike Dream Theater do not view music as a medium for their chops, but their chops are there to make sure they play whatever part, no matter how simple, with the right timing and feel the first time, so as to not waste studio time.

also they understand theory and sight read so they can communicate with him on his level.

frankly these people COULD have played every note on those Beatles records or on another project done things none of the Beatles were remotely capable of. they've all played on pop songs that were as immediate and beloved as anything the Beatles did, and as economical.

so to bring Dream Theater into it (btw do half the ppl that hold them up as a strawband even take the time to listen to them?) shows a fundamental misunderstanding of how QJ and his generation of producers and musicians see music. he would laugh at DT lack of feel.

I like Ringo in the Beatles but he's limited

I like McCartney's bass a lot and Harrison is good.

Lennon can't play for shit

There's a link to 'Love is a Many Splendoured Thing' from Sentimental Journey in the anecdote about Ringo, so QJ's not talking about the Beatles.

are we really having this, uh, discussion again

frankly these people COULD have played every note on those Beatles records or on another project done things none of the Beatles were remotely capable of. they've all played on pop songs that were as immediate and beloved as anything the Beatles did, and as economical

balking at this a bit: there's a phenomenon that really irritates me -- you see it a lot in advertising on the underground for some reason -- where a capable commercial artist has been tasked with drawing something like a little kid would draw (often a house with people). and they CAN'T do it right, they can't draw as if they can't draw (and it bugs me because it's so obvious a professional grown-up trying to fake something, and doing it badly)… likewise i think there's something about the way musicians hang together, in time especially, when they're self-taught and not technical masters of their instruments, which is very evident all over white 60s rock, which is actually HARD to reproduce if you're a "better" musician (not least bcz you want to iron it out as an effect that no one would want -- but of course rock musicians and fans liked it and DID want it)

similarly, i think being able to read music brings a step-change in how musicians think about music that makes it really hard for them to replicate forms of music that don't achieve unisons via bar-lines: of course the people quincy works with a superb musicians, but they couldn't just step into a west african drum orchestra and participate usefully without "unlearning" a bunch of hard-won stuff. whereas a three-year old kid with a cowbell brought up in the community the drum orchestra's from CAN contribute usefully: it's a form of music designed to enable the latter but not the former

i don't mean it's impossible: but the jazz musicians after ornette etc who went out to think about and play alongside musicians from non-american, non-"reading" cultures, needed to do a lot of unthinking

p sure i've posted something like this three or four times before: consider it my pro forma tribute to quincy

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the Beatles though weren't unschooled they read and wrote music