Quincy Jones - Search & Destroy

yes

Neil Young was actually The Wrecking Crew in audio disguise and the first album he performed on himself was Landing On Water.

plus weren't the Beatles touted in marketing/PR from the get-go as playing own instruments & writing own songs? a novel concept at the time?

guys as Simon said upthread, the Beatles stuff is the least compelling/hilarious material in these interviews. there are other things to talk about. like marlon brando fucking a mailbox

Q going on a date w/ Ivanka is a good one.

and yet it has compelled many posts to be made here. almost like different people can be intrigued by different things, crazy man.

My man just told us who killed JFK, y'all are arguing about Paul's bass playing? booo

Interview seems like charmless enough bullshit tbh

can't wait for the Trump tweet

Pryor and Brando both spoke about their bisexual histories publicly in the '70s... just not about each other.

I just posted the Beatles thing cuz of that “Beatles fuck off” thread

Richard Pryor's widow saying drugs were good in the '70s and therefore implicitly are not now erases and stigmatizes the experiences of contemporary teenagers.

— Vadim Rizov (@vrizov) February 7, 2018

would have been better without the gratuitous “stigmatizes”, but 6/10

I’m glad this interview is going viral but seriously the GQ interview is even better

that's really scraping the bottom of the barrel for woke takes imo

it’s parody

does david marchese purposely pick to interview artists who want to talk about being pisces

― lowercase (eric), Wednesday, February 7, 2018 10:38 AM (eleven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I’m sorry to jump around

Be a Pisces. Jam.

28. Jones composed the theme to Cosby’s first sitcom. Sitting with me, flicking through a book of photographs, Jones comes across one of the two of them together. “Cosby… Jesus,” he says, and moves on without further comment.

Interview seems like charmless enough bullshit tbh

Racist.

'Revered rock musicians aren't considered to be great musicians by people who know what they're talking about' isn't exactly a surprise here.

Miles was trashing big rep "non-playing mofos" in a similar uninhibited fashion decades ago as well.

Jazz musicians do this to other jazz musicans all the time, let alone the guys who played on "Love Me Do".

QJ is (rightfully so) super psyched about his role over the decades as arranger, spent largely working with studio pros and/or people that can sight read charts and stuff. none of The Beatles could even read music so yeah they would be probably useless in that context of being a good musician theory-wise/technique-wise. professionally illiterate.

ofc it doesn't actually matter to the listening public if you are technically a good musician, otherwise somebody like Dream Theater would be the consensus greatest band of all time.

Dream Theater has nothing to do with what QJ is talking about. they are a guitar mag rock band, he's talking about pro jazz and session musicians that UNDERSTAND MUSIC. yes many of them have chops on demand but they don't use them in most contexts, because they understand how a guy like QJ puts a great record together, which might involve everything from a great solo to playing 2 notes over and over. they unlike Dream Theater do not view music as a medium for their chops, but their chops are there to make sure they play whatever part, no matter how simple, with the right timing and feel the first time, so as to not waste studio time.

also they understand theory and sight read so they can communicate with him on his level.

frankly these people COULD have played every note on those Beatles records or on another project done things none of the Beatles were remotely capable of. they've all played on pop songs that were as immediate and beloved as anything the Beatles did, and as economical.

so to bring Dream Theater into it (btw do half the ppl that hold them up as a strawband even take the time to listen to them?) shows a fundamental misunderstanding of how QJ and his generation of producers and musicians see music. he would laugh at DT lack of feel.

I like Ringo in the Beatles but he's limited

I like McCartney's bass a lot and Harrison is good.

Lennon can't play for shit

There's a link to 'Love is a Many Splendoured Thing' from Sentimental Journey in the anecdote about Ringo, so QJ's not talking about the Beatles.

are we really having this, uh, discussion again

frankly these people COULD have played every note on those Beatles records or on another project done things none of the Beatles were remotely capable of. they've all played on pop songs that were as immediate and beloved as anything the Beatles did, and as economical

balking at this a bit: there's a phenomenon that really irritates me -- you see it a lot in advertising on the underground for some reason -- where a capable commercial artist has been tasked with drawing something like a little kid would draw (often a house with people). and they CAN'T do it right, they can't draw as if they can't draw (and it bugs me because it's so obvious a professional grown-up trying to fake something, and doing it badly)… likewise i think there's something about the way musicians hang together, in time especially, when they're self-taught and not technical masters of their instruments, which is very evident all over white 60s rock, which is actually HARD to reproduce if you're a "better" musician (not least bcz you want to iron it out as an effect that no one would want -- but of course rock musicians and fans liked it and DID want it)

similarly, i think being able to read music brings a step-change in how musicians think about music that makes it really hard for them to replicate forms of music that don't achieve unisons via bar-lines: of course the people quincy works with a superb musicians, but they couldn't just step into a west african drum orchestra and participate usefully without "unlearning" a bunch of hard-won stuff. whereas a three-year old kid with a cowbell brought up in the community the drum orchestra's from CAN contribute usefully: it's a form of music designed to enable the latter but not the former

i don't mean it's impossible: but the jazz musicians after ornette etc who went out to think about and play alongside musicians from non-american, non-"reading" cultures, needed to do a lot of unthinking

p sure i've posted something like this three or four times before: consider it my pro forma tribute to quincy

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the Beatles though weren't unschooled they read and wrote music

quincy didn't think so :)

I don't think that's true, especially if you substitute 'wrote' for 'notated'. McCartney certainly couldn't.

When McCartney did his Oratorio he sang or played the individual parts on the piano and got Carl Davis to write it all down, which really isn't the sort of thing QJ is talking about at all.

They couldn't read or write music. mark s otm btw. Also let's remember that Q is talking about his first impressions of the Beatles, not his overall impressions. What about the Microsoft guy who can play and sing like Hendrix though?

" And the Ed Sheeran record is great."

Can't comment on Ivanka Trump's legs either tbh.

Disappointed he didn't say arranging The Wiz soundtrack was his proudest moment.

seems to me like he's absolutely otm about everything

I for one am very glad a Quincy Jones interview finally got us talking about the musical talents or lack thereof of the Beatles. It's a debate that's long overdue.

The interviewer asked him if there were any guitar players who compare to Hendrix and he said "yes, Paul Allen, the guy from Microsoft who lets me hang out on his yacht."

This is a fabulously entertaining interview, but it seems like a lot of the time he was just saying things just to say things

See that's the weird thing, a lot of musicians are Pisceans which is why there seems to be an awful lot of talk about Pisceans in these kind of interviews, and in lyrics (Pumpkins, Nirvana, Erykah etc). It's enough to make you think, almost, that there's somethign to it all.

^^^from a trustworthy source

Is Fish a Pisces?

something's Phish-y here.

Fish is not a Pisces

Pisces is at the end of the Zodiac

They feel all the weight of the other signs

Aries is at the beginning and they don't give a fuck

The older I get, the less I know what Cancer is supposed to be.

https://media0.giphy.com/media/uA8WItRYSRkfm/giphy.gif

Cancer and my name is Larry, huh
And I like a woman that loves everything and everybody
Because I love everybody and everything
And you know what, ladies, if you feel that this is you
Then this is what I want you to do

Gutted to learn Erykah Badu is not actually an Aquarius.

QUESTLOVE

I always knew that James Poyser and I were born in January. It was really J. Dilla that made me pay attention. One day, Dilla said, “Wait a minute. I was born on February 7th.” Then D’Angelo said, “I was born on February 11th.” Then James said, “I was born in January, and I’m an Aquarian, too!” I said, “Well, I was born on January 20th.” Also, the late great guitarist of The Soultronics, Jef Lee Johnson said, “I’m an Aquarian, too.” Then Common and Erykah came in, and Erykah said, “I’m a week late for being an Aquarian. I’m a Pisces, but at least I was born in late February.”