the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

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I hope they are carrying that Freemasons anti-discrimination ad as well.

calzino, Thursday, 8 February 2018 09:21 (six years ago) link

Kinder gentler FBPE twitter going hard on Labour’s polling dropping. It’s not that polls are sacrosanct but I don’t understand how Tory support is still so high?

Granted, nothing but talking has actually happened yet, but still.

gyac, Thursday, 8 February 2018 11:12 (six years ago) link

Gammonization. What is FPBE?

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 February 2018 11:15 (six years ago) link

The Centrist Borg.

kim jong deal (suzy), Thursday, 8 February 2018 11:20 (six years ago) link

Check out the response to any Corbyn tweet and you’ll see them. Doesn’t matter what he’s talking about.

gyac, Thursday, 8 February 2018 11:30 (six years ago) link

It’s not that polls are sacrosanct but I don’t understand how Tory support is still so high?

Not just still so high, but actually seems to have risen (albeit slightly) in almost all the recent polls. Even if the 'still so high' bit is due to people obstinately refusing to change their minds, what on earth has happened in the last couple of weeks or so to make their support actually go up?

the salacious inaudible (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 8 February 2018 13:11 (six years ago) link

Labour have revealed their true colours bullying that poor woman out of a job

imago, Thursday, 8 February 2018 13:21 (six years ago) link

The last aggregator I saw was from two days ago and had Labour about a point ahead in the polls on average. The only really significant event in the last few days has been the next stage in the UKIP implosion which I guess would benefit the Tories more than Labour at this stage, even if the numbers we're talking about are too small to make that much of a difference.

There are probably enough committed Brexiters, anti-Corbynites and die-hard Tory voters to keep their support around 40% whatever happens, at least until Britain actually leaves the EU.

Matt DC, Thursday, 8 February 2018 13:42 (six years ago) link

it does Labour no harm to be away from centre stage at the moment while the Tories murder each other, I wouldn't worry until we get into another "election in the offing" situation

"oh no my cheds" man had dark to black packet (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 February 2018 13:46 (six years ago) link

gammon, a knuckle-dragging Faragiste xenophobe, is definitely the slang of the year so far. Comes from the flesh-tone of pressured blood, but there's surely a link to the early 19C criminal sense, at least as the target of the transitive verb: pic.twitter.com/M7p2gVXzfU

— Jonathon Green (@MisterSlang) February 8, 2018

(JG is the great lexicographer of british slang ancient and modern: also a very sweet guy)

mark s, Thursday, 8 February 2018 13:59 (six years ago) link

wow!

imago, Thursday, 8 February 2018 14:00 (six years ago) link

(Did ILXors coin ‘gammon’ or...)

kim jong deal (suzy), Thursday, 8 February 2018 14:43 (six years ago) link

i am currently staying in a mid-level hotel in fuerteventura with a bunch of other brits and the gammon levels are dangerously high

overheard a couple of cockney-sounding retired oil-business types talking at dinner last night about how well-travelled they were but they both agreed they’d never travel to ‘muslim countries’ nowadays

oh and one of them had never been to scotland

he facked his death (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 8 February 2018 14:48 (six years ago) link

can't remember if deep fried everything is halal or not

"oh no my cheds" man had dark to black packet (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 February 2018 14:49 (six years ago) link

there’s plenty of halal deep-friers round our way - scots and asians united in pursuit of heart disease, makes me feel all braveheart

he facked his death (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 8 February 2018 14:52 (six years ago) link

all the more reason for gammonistas to stay away then

"oh no my cheds" man had dark to black packet (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 February 2018 14:54 (six years ago) link

gammon is haram iirc

he facked his death (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 8 February 2018 14:55 (six years ago) link

Another 'hilarious' definitely real person on Twitter: https://twitter.com/FleetwoodTerryO

nashwan, Thursday, 8 February 2018 15:39 (six years ago) link

"(Did ILXors coin ‘gammon’ or...)"

The search function reveals you referred to Cameron as "old shiny gammon face" in 2014!

calzino, Thursday, 8 February 2018 22:29 (six years ago) link

Some classic gammon on QT tonight, also some insight into the question of how Tory support is still so high - the answer is Brexit.

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 February 2018 23:41 (six years ago) link

I am also watching QT - the gammon with shoe polish in his hair and the one before with the characteristic war cry about cutting the foreign aid budget, smdh

kim jong deal (suzy), Thursday, 8 February 2018 23:46 (six years ago) link

Terry Christian is still breathing, it seems.

calzino, Friday, 9 February 2018 00:04 (six years ago) link

gammon is quality patter, even if it's currently being rinsed to fuck

khat person (jim in vancouver), Friday, 9 February 2018 00:05 (six years ago) link

Hard to avoid it when watching QT from Darlington.

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Friday, 9 February 2018 00:09 (six years ago) link

Actually there wasn't too much of it until the foreign aid guy popped, there was one fellow who flirted with it, during the question on equal pay for women, but didn't quite pass mustard, sorry, muster.

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Friday, 9 February 2018 00:12 (six years ago) link

popped up - tho popped will do as he was a bit like a boil.

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Friday, 9 February 2018 00:12 (six years ago) link

it does Labour no harm to be away from centre stage at the moment while the Tories murder each other, I wouldn't worry until we get into another "election in the offing" situation


otm. did initially read that as “another effing in the offing”.

Fizzles, Friday, 9 February 2018 06:40 (six years ago) link

the YouGov numbers have been bobbing a few points either way since the election, it's pretty desperate that some people (and centrists) are seizing on it swinging towards towards them this time as a significant event. If the Spring local election wipe-out in London is going to be as bad for them as some are suggesting, that is what they should really be concerned about in the short term.

calzino, Friday, 9 February 2018 08:54 (six years ago) link

can't believe centrists are opportunist

"oh no my cheds" man had dark to black packet (Noodle Vague), Friday, 9 February 2018 09:09 (six years ago) link

The precise wording of the EU documentation on Northern Ireland is going to cause havoc in the Tory Party and probably the DUP as well. It's going to be difficult to imagine the Moggites standing for it.

Matt DC, Friday, 9 February 2018 09:47 (six years ago) link

Ulster will fight and Ulster will be right wing

"oh no my cheds" man had dark to black packet (Noodle Vague), Friday, 9 February 2018 09:50 (six years ago) link

"the Moggites" sounds like a name for some subterranean civilisation imagined by H. G. Wells, which is about right.

calzino, Friday, 9 February 2018 09:53 (six years ago) link

Is the rubber finally meeting the road?

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 9 February 2018 09:59 (six years ago) link

JRM doesn't believe in using rubber I understand.

Matt DC, Friday, 9 February 2018 10:12 (six years ago) link

Has a backbencher ever been given so much (positive) attention as JRM in the last year?

nashwan, Friday, 9 February 2018 10:16 (six years ago) link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42991304

Mr Fox pledged that the publications would retain their identities: "The Daily Express is not going to become left-wing and the Mirror is not going to become right-wing."

Great news for all their several thousand readers.

nashwan, Friday, 9 February 2018 10:31 (six years ago) link

The owner of the Daily Mirror has agreed to buy the company behind titles including the Daily Express, the Daily Star and magazines such as OK!

Trinity Mirror is to pay £126.7m for the publishing assets of Northern & Shell, which is chaired by Richard Desmond.


this seems simultaneously both a total steal for trinity mirror and yet a massive overpayment

also does it include dirty des’ stable of porn mags?

he facked his death (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 February 2018 10:59 (six years ago) link

They paid £126.7m for a business which turned over £157m last year, but that's half of what it was a decade ago and 10% lower than it was a year ago. There are probably digital economies-of-scale reasons for buying them but N&S isn't a business with healthy long-term prospects. OK! and the Health Lottery are probably the most valuable things involved. No porn either.

Bet Trinity Mirror execs are excited about the prospect of having Richard Desmond as one of their largest shareholders.

Matt DC, Friday, 9 February 2018 11:27 (six years ago) link

"the Health Lottery" is the most ineptly named charidee of all time

"oh no my cheds" man had dark to black packet (Noodle Vague), Friday, 9 February 2018 11:30 (six years ago) link

Has a backbencher ever been given so much (positive) attention as JRM in the last year?

Farage would've been worse if he ever got elected.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 9 February 2018 11:33 (six years ago) link

"the Health Lottery" is the most ineptly named charidee of all time

According to my sister my mum was outraged that they were encouraging children to gamble...

https://www.scottishchildrenslottery.com/export/system/modules/com.assense.gaming.stv.template/resources/images/logo.svg

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Friday, 9 February 2018 11:35 (six years ago) link

easy mistake to make, but the scottish children’s lottery actually gives winning entrants unwanted kids from across scotland iirc

he facked his death (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 February 2018 11:44 (six years ago) link

"the Health Lottery" is the most ineptly named charidee of all time


it also gives only 20.3% of its takings to charity

he facked his death (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 February 2018 11:53 (six years ago) link

most Charities give a bad name to Charity, but this is just....

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/senior-oxfam-staff-paid-haiti-quake-survivors-take-part-orgies-some-may-have-been-underage-1660029

calzino, Friday, 9 February 2018 11:57 (six years ago) link

presumably thanks to all this gammon talk i've found myself with an inescapable earworm of "every girl crazy 'bout a ham-faced man"

Thanks for sharing that

El Tomboto, Friday, 9 February 2018 12:05 (six years ago) link

Has there been a right wing hot take of saying 'gammon' is as offensive as the n word.

But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 9 February 2018 12:07 (six years ago) link

my own form of charitable contribution xp

I can always remember "Porkman" as the Afro-Caribbean slang for white people 30 odd to 40 years ago. But there weren't discussions on CB radio about it's inherent racism!

calzino, Friday, 9 February 2018 12:18 (six years ago) link

I've heard irl idiots complain about "honky" tho

"oh no my cheds" man had dark to black packet (Noodle Vague), Friday, 9 February 2018 12:19 (six years ago) link


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