Pretenders: Classic or Dud?

"yeah I had this huge pile of CDs to look through, and you guys were the UGLIEST motherfuckers out of all the bands. I figured that you were in it for the music and not the chicks

tbh I'm not really following Hynde's reasoning here

Like, they're clearly in it for the music. Face for radio, etc.

p much everything after the deaths of JHS & PF = DUD

nah, a lot of the 3rd album and get close is great.

The transition from the middle 8 to the verse in Back on the Chain Gang is one of the best things I have ever heard

tbh I'm not really following Hynde's reasoning here

I didn't know until Spotify told me that there's a version of 'Let's get lost' with Neil Tennant. I like it.

I didn't like I'll Stand By You that much, but my dislike of it is based on the fact that it paved the way for Love Can Build A Bridge, the worst thing in the discography of three different artists.

Think Clapton has probably done worse

Pretenders influence can be felt in some newer bands like dum dum girls, alvvays, Laura marling and especially stories from the city

The most enjoyment I've gotten out of Arcade Fire in over a decade:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqFvqYcYD3Y

Stop your sobbing is one of the best approximations of the spirit of doo-wop. Man does that guitarist rip too, lovers of today melts my face off

Classic!

"Birds of Paradise" came up on random shuffle for me today. A minor Pretenders song, sure, but man is it gorgeous.

^ yeah!

Gonna sample brass in pockets intro, down pitch it and loop it into a hip hop beat. Think it would sound dope

Gonna use MAH MAH MAH.

You listed the correct post-80s record.

I'm finding it difficult to accept the notion that Hynde has a limited voice.

― lihaperäpukamat (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, October 24, 2009 8:09 AM (nine years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Alfred she sings flat about half the time. It's a charming flat, but it's flat.

― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Saturday, October 24, 2009 8:26 AM (nine years ago)

lol someone added this to her wikipedia page:

Artistry
This section needs expansion. You can help by adding to it. (January 2015)
Hynde has a contralto vocal range.[ 50 ] Until 1978, shortly before the advent of The Pretenders, Hynde had little idea what she sounded like.[ 51 ] Attributing her distinctive time signatures to an inability to count, and her distinctive amusia to an inability to hear, she eschews formal voice training saying that, "distinctive voices in rock are trained through years of many things: frustration, fear, loneliness, anger, insecurity, arrogance, narcissism, or just sheer perseverance – anything but a teacher."[ 51 ]

did Hynde and Petty ever cross paths? Was thinking about how they are kinda similar, both part of the last wave of "classic rock", shading into new wave. shag haircuts, idiosyncratic voices, classicists but also p odd.

In which our hero, Chrissie Hynde, kisses Trump's ass in order to encourage him to ... help Julian Assange.

ew! no! what are you talking about?

An open Letter to @realDonaldTrump, President of the United States.

Dear Mr. President,

I often think of how much my father, Melville “Bud” Hynde, who proudly served his country as a Marine on Guadalcanal, would have enjoyed your Presidency. [p1.]

— Chrissie Hynde (@ChrissieHynde) February 17, 2020

Melville "Bud" Hynde would probably have voted for Trump, listened to Rush, bopped to "My City is Gone."

ugh

first pj harvey now CH

assange sucks

what did PJ do?!?! my god
what is happening

Assange is a cause celebre. Kissing Trump's ass is a different thing (even if Hynde is clever for recognizing how President Mike Teavee works.)

You may be right.

more like kissy hind amirite

Oh in 2017 PJ participated in pro Assange event

https://consequenceofsound.net/2017/04/patti-smith-pj-harvey-brian-eno-participated-in-free-julian-assange-conference/

eh that's stupid but whatever
kissing trump's ass in any way is the offense

lol kissy hinde

Has plenty of potential for this thread: Band names that are parodies of other bands' names.

But certainly not for this one: Worst band/musician with a name that is pun based on other bands/musicians

Kiss B. Hynde

Still haven't gotten around to the new album yet, but this, from her ongoing "Dylan Lockdown Series", is lovely:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBUhaj76B_U

It didn't need the last shot, but I found that video unexpectedly moving. Beautiful cover too.

Anyone else heard the Dylan covers album that Chrissie put out today? Kudos to her for selecting some less obvious song choices, I guess, but I don't know if she always went with his strongest material (two songs each from Shot of Love and Infidels!). At the very least, I am grateful to finally have a version of that "Love Minus Zero/No Limit" cover that I liked so much from last year on record.

yeah wow that seems like a natural for her to cover!

I would have loved to hear her salvage "Caribbean Wind." The one on Biograph sucks but on the old bootlegged outtake (which wasn't included on Trouble No More), it sounded like Dylan's phrasing could have been inspired by Chrissie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=audUHTtPi1I

The awkward arrangement needs to be re-done, but I could see the original Pretenders fixing this and making something great out of it.

Greil loves the "Blind Willie McTell" cover (and really hates Dylan's Infidels FWIW).

Anyone read/have anything to say about this?: https://utpress.utexas.edu/books/adam-sobsey-chrissie-hynde

Excerpt from a recorded 1981 phone interview with James Honeyman-Scott

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-blEXEO4qSY

played the 7th street entry (capacity 250) in mpls last night and apparently everyone was blown away