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What kind of trash games?

Evan, Thursday, 8 February 2018 22:08 (six years ago) link

the reviews of the super NT make it sound awesome

Nhex, Thursday, 8 February 2018 22:30 (six years ago) link

There's a guy in my city who mods N64s and so I just got one. I am freaking SHAKEN by how expensive and weirdly overzealous the whole "upscaling composite/S-Video/RGB to HDMI" game is, actually considering buying one of these idiotic Framemeisters that actually look so nice

I don't know if they'll ever do an N64 mini BUT if they did it would be very, very interesting to see if they upgrade the 3D-rendering. idk. It was so wonderful to play Mario 64 and Majora on the 3DS, looking beautiful

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 8 February 2018 23:26 (six years ago) link

What kind of trash games?

I think this list is the same. Tons of duplicates within the list:

http://bootleggames.wikia.com/wiki/Mini_Game_Anniversary_Edition

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 8 February 2018 23:30 (six years ago) link

that's bonkers

Badgers (dog latin), Friday, 9 February 2018 01:07 (six years ago) link

super contra 7!

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 9 February 2018 02:03 (six years ago) link

I did it! It worked! It was surprisingly easy too! Just need an Axelay rom and I'm away

Did anyone actually like Starfox? I remember it being this super-hyped game back in the day, but I always found the vector graphics really naff and the game felt unresponsive, like primitive VR or something.

Badgers (dog latin), Friday, 9 February 2018 08:54 (six years ago) link

yeah it always felt more like a technical triumph than an actual fun game to me

he facked his death (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 February 2018 11:12 (six years ago) link

like Killer Instinct I guess. Lots of hype about it learning your playing techniques etc, but it was more of a showcase for early AI than a game that was better than Streetfighter or Mortal Kombat.

So among other things I put on my SNES:

Street Racer - a really good Mario Kart alternative fun racing game
Addams Family - a neat platformer, really playable. Good music
Young Merlin - a flawed adventure game with some nice touches

Badgers (dog latin), Friday, 9 February 2018 11:27 (six years ago) link

The fan translation of Der Langrisser is my favorite (non-Civ) turn-based strategy game. Best to play with the sound off, the music is grating af imo.

Wes Brodicus, Friday, 9 February 2018 11:47 (six years ago) link

Star Fox was worth it for the level where you fly inside the spaceship. outside of that it felt weirdly out of date.

Addams Family is an amazing game. i remember renting that one rainy day and being amazed w this undiscovered Mario-style platformer

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 9 February 2018 14:33 (six years ago) link

imo star fox was fun once you stopped concentrating on how polygons flying at you was kind of distracting when you were used to pixely sprites

mh, Friday, 9 February 2018 15:05 (six years ago) link

i loved the level where you fly through the spaceship. it was janky and oldschool but oddly that was kind of a golden era of on-rails shooters. i was playing a lot of Rebel Assault on PC at the time.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 9 February 2018 15:50 (six years ago) link

What are the risks of hacking the SNES classic? I keep hearing how easy it is but the thing is just so hard to get and my wife is very against me fiddling with it and potentially ruining it. I probably still won't since I have a little retro pie as well as OpenEmu on both of my computers, but the tempting incentive is being able to play other games with those sweet-ass official BRAND NEW Nintendo controllers. I mean, that's the part that has me feeling the most sentimental. That I am holding a new ~official~ Nintendo made SNES controller!

Evan, Friday, 9 February 2018 15:58 (six years ago) link

I'm a doofus and I managed it. program is very good and I just followed a YouTube tutorial on how to do it. I was surprised at how easy it was

Badgers (dog latin), Friday, 9 February 2018 17:26 (six years ago) link

The very first thing you'll do is back up the original kernel, and if anything goes wrong, just flash that back on there and it's factory reset. It's pretty much unbrickable tbh. I mean absolute worst case scneario, if you somehow mess it up and lose your kernel backup, pm me and I'll send you mine.

JimD, Friday, 9 February 2018 17:27 (six years ago) link

love this thread, i used to run a website with the express goal of reviewing every snes game. i went back and read some and it's uhhh definitely not good and/or written in this modern era (caught myself dropping both the r- and t- words in at least one article that i vaguely remembered as my fave, so, that's not great)

i have such wonderful memories of illusion of gaia, what an intensely lonely game

flippy bard (Will M.), Friday, 9 February 2018 18:20 (six years ago) link

Thanks for the help guys, I'll probably look a little more into it but despite any actual level of risk I'm still just going to refrain so I don't get in trouble!

Speaking of reviews, I tend to rely on this guy to inform me about all the titles I don't necessarily know much about:

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfBLXTwLoUpDAkHcHizW3Jg

Evan, Friday, 9 February 2018 18:31 (six years ago) link

caught myself dropping both the r- and t- words in at least one article that i vaguely remembered as my fave, so, that's not great

To be fair, Mallow is both those things

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 9 February 2018 18:48 (six years ago) link

@ Evan, hack the SNES, it's a challenge but not a challenge

Message me privately and I'll link you to ROMs

Starfox is the greatest game ever and frankly "on-rails 3D space shooter" should've been an entire genre of game and I'm disappointed that it wasn't. Even "one or two levels" on Starfox Zero were so thrilling, I don't know why more resources weren't put into this genre

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 9 February 2018 18:51 (six years ago) link

The ROMs part of it I've got covered, actually! If any of you have a Mac and a usb controller, OpenEmu is fantastic. That's what I use.

http://openemu.org/

Evan, Friday, 9 February 2018 18:54 (six years ago) link

@ Evan, hack the SNES, it's a challenge but not a challenge

Message me privately and I'll link you to ROMs

Starfox is the greatest game ever and frankly "on-rails 3D space shooter" should've been an entire genre of game and I'm disappointed that it wasn't. Even "one or two levels" on Starfox Zero were so thrilling, I don't know why more resources weren't put into this genre

― flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, February 9, 2018 10:51 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah i thought star fox was awesome personally. i found it hard and could never complete it despite trying thousands of times tho.

khat person (jim in vancouver), Friday, 9 February 2018 18:55 (six years ago) link

The ROMs part of it I've got covered, actually! If any of you have a Mac and a usb controller, OpenEmu is fantastic. That's what I use.

http://openemu.org/

― Evan

^ ditto

also yeah, i loved starfox. it had its flaws but i played through it many, many times.

Karl Malone, Friday, 9 February 2018 18:56 (six years ago) link

it WAS really hard! there were multiple routes you could take to the end, though, and eventually i found one that i could reliably complete.

Karl Malone, Friday, 9 February 2018 18:56 (six years ago) link

openemu is definitely good

I bought a usb controller that was either made with an original snes controller mold, or copied very well, and it's nearly perfect. The buttons are about 90% there, but probably play better than my worn out old controllers.

mh, Friday, 9 February 2018 19:02 (six years ago) link

that's 8bitdo, right?
man i wish i had time to play all this stuff.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 9 February 2018 19:03 (six years ago) link

I was going to guess ibuffalo controller

8bitdo is more known for being wireless vs. another "usb controller" (even though that's what it becomes if you plug it in with the charging wire)

Evan, Friday, 9 February 2018 19:09 (six years ago) link

I might be misremembering how decent the buttons were! It's been a while. Amazon says I bought this, maybe it's actually hot garbage and I don't know better: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0034ZOAO0/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

mh, Friday, 9 February 2018 19:20 (six years ago) link

Starfox SNES was hard, Starfox 64 was mostly easy until "Venom 1, expert mode" which is the most difficult thing I've ever attempted

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 9 February 2018 20:40 (six years ago) link

In Star Fox mythos it bothers me that Peppy becomes an old geezer so fucking fast. The only good Peppy is SNES Peppy (my favorite SNES Starfox companion).

Woon... Doopee Time (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 9 February 2018 21:50 (six years ago) link

SNES Starfox always felt like a slow, boring tech demo to me, but Starfox 64 absolutely should have led to a whole genre or at least a single robust entry per console, like Zelda and Mario Kart. Delightful, kid-friendly narrative shooter, not about insane twitchy perfection (until the late game on the hard path, yeah) but just the satisfaction of doing loop-the-loops and blowing stuff to polygonal smithereens.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 9 February 2018 22:15 (six years ago) link

I've said this elsewhere (probably more than once) but what always appealed to me about Galaga and then good schmups afterward (anything Treasure made) is that the spectacle and pleasure come not only from gameplay and design but the thrill of excellent 'choreography'-- that is, that these landscapes and enemies might be designed to reveal themselves and respond to player input in an aesthetically appealing sense-- this particular neural network was activated when I was 8 and played Galaga 88 for the first time and literally saw the aliens dancing to waltzes and tangos

Starfox did the exact same thing but in a 3D environment and I tried to explain to friends what it was about Starfox (specifically) that differentiated its effect on my internal response from other space combat games (Wing Commander-derived free-combat) or other on-rails games (Crash Bandicoot) but I guess it just became a dry subject

But it's clear to me too that the very designers of Starfox themselves ~didn't get what made the game so great~ as they introduced all-range mode into Starfox 64 and other increasingly obnoxious addendums and footnotes to what I liked about the original SNES (and 64) games: being overwhelmed with enemies as you fly through the wreckage of a fleet, giant frigates appearing and the Arwing flying in closely to take out a few turrets, asteroid ballet, twisting internal corridors to reach the engine core, trench runs and so on

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 9 February 2018 23:08 (six years ago) link

that's a great post. the all-range mode levels/bosses in starfox 64 are definitely a huge step down from the on-rails ones. but you still have so much great on-rails stuff. and the way enemies can pop up (and get blown up) in formation gets at least a little of that galaga choreography, no?

Doctor Casino, Friday, 9 February 2018 23:20 (six years ago) link

Yes! That's what I like about it. There's something about it that's like... an interactive ballet

flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 10 February 2018 02:14 (six years ago) link

Ok so what do you think of Starfox 2?

Evan, Saturday, 10 February 2018 16:24 (six years ago) link

Unfortunately, Starfox 2 does not have a high enough frame rate to be an effective allegorical attack on the Trump administration

— Gold medal in Olympic finger skating (@owenpallett) October 27, 2017

flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 10 February 2018 22:21 (six years ago) link

So I discovered that Tetris Attack two player is ridiculously addictive

Also started playing Chrono Trigger.

Badgers (dog latin), Monday, 12 February 2018 15:52 (six years ago) link

we had a tradition of spending all our downtime between studying/tests at the end of college semesters sitting around playing tetris attack! good times

mh, Monday, 12 February 2018 15:59 (six years ago) link

Multiplayer Tetris attack is one of the most underrated games ever, imo

Karl Malone, Monday, 12 February 2018 16:05 (six years ago) link

yeah, that and puzzle fighter on PS1 were prob the biggest games outside of tony hawk when I was in college. <3 gargantua blarg forever.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 12 February 2018 22:07 (six years ago) link

i didn't know that game until the DS version of Puzzle League came out, but yeah it rules

Nhex, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 02:25 (six years ago) link

By the time I forward that to someone who needs it it'll be too late I'm sure

Evan, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:01 (six years ago) link

they've been sticking around a bit longer; give it a try

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:02 (six years ago) link

I jumped! Thanks ulysses.

Nhex, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:09 (six years ago) link

Anybody getting this thing? To me the downside of the classic is that it won't play cartridges, but this does.

https://www.polygon.com/2018/2/7/16934180/super-nt-review-super-nintendo-snes-analogue

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:10 (six years ago) link

not snes related but that review reminds me that my new tv doesn't have a vga input so the next time I want to hook up the ol' dreamcast I'm going to have to do some thinking

mh, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:59 (six years ago) link

just snagged a snes mini off amazon, mainly to troll old lunch

albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 22:01 (six years ago) link

Congrats on your successful troll!

So does anyone have the deets of the guy who's assembling these things by hand so I can ask him to text me once he finishes another one in two or three weeks time?

You dishonor your ancestors with your emoji abstention (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 00:20 (six years ago) link

But seriously: this has to be the work of asshole speculators snatching up every extra unit the second they hit the streets. Grade-A BS!

You dishonor your ancestors with your emoji abstention (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 00:23 (six years ago) link


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