the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

gammon is quality patter, even if it's currently being rinsed to fuck

Hard to avoid it when watching QT from Darlington.

Actually there wasn't too much of it until the foreign aid guy popped, there was one fellow who flirted with it, during the question on equal pay for women, but didn't quite pass mustard, sorry, muster.

popped up - tho popped will do as he was a bit like a boil.

it does Labour no harm to be away from centre stage at the moment while the Tories murder each other, I wouldn't worry until we get into another "election in the offing" situation

the YouGov numbers have been bobbing a few points either way since the election, it's pretty desperate that some people (and centrists) are seizing on it swinging towards towards them this time as a significant event. If the Spring local election wipe-out in London is going to be as bad for them as some are suggesting, that is what they should really be concerned about in the short term.

can't believe centrists are opportunist

The precise wording of the EU documentation on Northern Ireland is going to cause havoc in the Tory Party and probably the DUP as well. It's going to be difficult to imagine the Moggites standing for it.

Ulster will fight and Ulster will be right wing

"the Moggites" sounds like a name for some subterranean civilisation imagined by H. G. Wells, which is about right.

Is the rubber finally meeting the road?

JRM doesn't believe in using rubber I understand.

Has a backbencher ever been given so much (positive) attention as JRM in the last year?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42991304

Mr Fox pledged that the publications would retain their identities: "The Daily Express is not going to become left-wing and the Mirror is not going to become right-wing."

Great news for all their several thousand readers.

The owner of the Daily Mirror has agreed to buy the company behind titles including the Daily Express, the Daily Star and magazines such as OK!

Trinity Mirror is to pay £126.7m for the publishing assets of Northern & Shell, which is chaired by Richard Desmond.

They paid £126.7m for a business which turned over £157m last year, but that's half of what it was a decade ago and 10% lower than it was a year ago. There are probably digital economies-of-scale reasons for buying them but N&S isn't a business with healthy long-term prospects. OK! and the Health Lottery are probably the most valuable things involved. No porn either.

Bet Trinity Mirror execs are excited about the prospect of having Richard Desmond as one of their largest shareholders.

"the Health Lottery" is the most ineptly named charidee of all time

Has a backbencher ever been given so much (positive) attention as JRM in the last year?

Farage would've been worse if he ever got elected.

"the Health Lottery" is the most ineptly named charidee of all time

According to my sister my mum was outraged that they were encouraging children to gamble...

https://www.scottishchildrenslottery.com/export/system/modules/com.assense.gaming.stv.template/resources/images/logo.svg

easy mistake to make, but the scottish children’s lottery actually gives winning entrants unwanted kids from across scotland iirc

"the Health Lottery" is the most ineptly named charidee of all time

most Charities give a bad name to Charity, but this is just....

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/senior-oxfam-staff-paid-haiti-quake-survivors-take-part-orgies-some-may-have-been-underage-1660029

presumably thanks to all this gammon talk i've found myself with an inescapable earworm of "every girl crazy 'bout a ham-faced man"

Thanks for sharing that

Has there been a right wing hot take of saying 'gammon' is as offensive as the n word.

my own form of charitable contribution xp

I can always remember "Porkman" as the Afro-Caribbean slang for white people 30 odd to 40 years ago. But there weren't discussions on CB radio about it's inherent racism!

I've heard irl idiots complain about "honky" tho

They’ve tried racism but it’s been pointed out to them that it’s mostly other white people calling them gammon; they’re also trying on sizeism but the zipper broke.

There is literally nothing more gammon than claiming that calling people gammon is racist.

Idea: golliwog type dolls, but of gammon. Might set up an etsy store

it's incredible to me how the UK govt, and its media to a slightly lesser extent, act as if it's not only the EU's responsibility to come up with all the creative ideas for solving the complex problems of brexit, but to do so in a way that benefits the UK. it wasn't the EU's idea!!

i mean forgive me if that's an obvious point but it honestly seems like d davis et al are folding their arms and whining that the EU hasn't sorted this all out yet

it's an obvious point but it's surprising in a new way every single day.

That guy really liked interrupting women, whether on the panel or in the audience. But he was too thin and ginge to be proper gammon - I detected check shirt post-mod so a possible WELLEND.

No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve both mod and gammon - Matthew 6:24

Here is a recent picture of the band Secret Affair:

https://www.weekendnotes.co.uk/images/secret-affair-082.JPG

I'm not saying that's gammon, I'm saying it could pass for gammon.

NickB: too brilliant for the Excelsior thread

*stands, applauds*

yeah, holy shit

(jfc I didn't notice the Spoonerism and now I wish I could delete my posts because they are not worthy, even if they are correct)

(My sister is a regular attendee at Secret Affair gigs :( She is an old mod though)

nickb that is an extraordinary achievement

*claps*

*WARNING humourless party pooper post ahoy!*

A report by the work and pensions select committee highlighted people with Down’s syndrome asked when they “caught” it, a woman reporting frequent suicidal thoughts asked why she had not yet killed herself, and someone whose assessment said she walked a dog daily, when she can barely walk and does not own a dog.

the "substantial minority" the report concludes, that have been partially or completely fucked over by these ATOS/CAPITAS assessments is Rumsfeld type bullshit speak for FUCKING SHITLOADS i.e. not a minority by any definition.

i mean forgive me if that's an obvious point but it honestly seems like d davis et al are folding their arms and whining that the EU hasn't sorted this all out yet

Three headlines from this morning that I saw in a row:

Japan warns Theresa May its giant firms will quit UK if botched Brexit makes it 'unprofitable' to stay

Ministers admit almost 65 existing trade deals with non-EU countries are ‘at risk because of Brexit’

David Davis criticises 'discourteous language' from the EU in transition period document

NickB wins today’s internet!

Ugh at healthcare professional interviews: half the time the person interviewing a person in need of disability benefits has zero qualification to do so - one example from amongst my friends was the person with MH issues whose interlocutor was a physio in a Juicy tracksuit.

the "substantial minority" the report concludes, that have been partially or completely fucked over by these ATOS/CAPITAS assessments is Rumsfeld type bullshit speak for FUCKING SHITLOADS i.e. not a minority by any definition.

OTM. National disgrace.

look, in this country we obey the rule of law and you're a scrounger until proven dead.

someone just head of me in the airport security queue the other day had a laptop with an atos sticker on it and it was all i could do not to smash it on the floor