Black Panther (2018), dir Ryan Coogler

soundtrack is fucking great, it's kind of a crew TDE album with some well selected guest stars

I like the 2 Chainz/Q, Khalid, Vince, and Mozzy tracks. I can live without the rest (on first listen).

Personally, my only problem with these two movies is that Marvel waited so long to make them that my enthusiasm has waned after a couple total duds and a growing fatigue with the genre.

for real for real. i am sorry i ever read a comic book in the first place.
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, February 9, 2018 1:08 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah this totally...like i just...can't watch fucking comic book movies anymore, i last tried w/wonder woman but just lost interest a quarter way through (and it's probably a fine movie)

That’s why I liked Thor: Ragnarok so much as Taika Waititi seems to have deliberately put stuff into the film just to fuck with the standard presentation(casting Jeff Goldblum to be Jeff Goldblum, deliberately writing a Kirby-CGI rock monster part for himself with his native accent, the “shoulda brought more pamphlets” bits, etc)

remember back when we didn't really have a "standard presentation" for these things

...no?

I mean, on a basic level for Marvel junk the answer is "before they made Iron Man" because their productions have a somewhat enforced consistency in tone. DC has slightly different problems.

The big comic movie thing that made it clear to me that there's been a big shift in formula over the years was WB thinking Bryan Singer's attempt to seamlessly reboot Superman from the past franchise, when comic book movies were not really using that template, fell flat.

at this point we're yet another decade past and a Christopher Reeve style of Superman would probably seem fresh and intriguing

pointless (BUT INTRIGUING!) question: is Michael B Jordan the first actor to cross over from a non-canonical Marvel movie into a Cinematic Marvel Universe film as a different character?

Not entirely if you think about Josh Brolin's upcoming May here.

xp: Chris Evans did it too, and also crossed over from playing Human Torch in a non-MCU Fantstic Four movie.

oh yeah, i forgot about evans as the human torch... also jordan as human torch!
xp I know Brolin is Cable... who was he in the noncanonical films?

Well what's the definition of noncanonical? MCU = Thanos; Fox/Marvel = Cable.

i guess i thought deadpool was canonical. didn't realize it wasn't... except now it is! wheeeeeeee

it's maybe canonical in the Fox mutantverse

which still has absolutely nothing to do with the Avengers

so they still have to kinda flip a switch and say deadpool is part of disney? that's presumably the plot of deadpool 3: the canonsolidation

it’s really doubtful they’ll combine their projects, it’d be a soft or full reboot, or right before both ventures die in a fire, they’ll combine everything for no reason

they pushed back the new mutants movie until next year (??) so maybe they’re considering cutting all the fox x-men references out, doing minor reshoots, and making that the first marvel movie universe one

Priest's review from the premiere, with reference to McGregor.

Entirely unsurprising news: this is great.

Two days to go! For me at least.

thanks for that Priest link; fun to see his takes!

No spoilers but... Michael B Jordan is a distractingly good-looking villain.

Also the best MCU villain so far, with apologies to another Michael (Keaton).

this was dope

"DUDE, IT'S A BUGATTI SPACESHIP!"

seeing this midday tomorrow cannot waaaaaaait

Andy Serkis was p funny

So damn good.

so so so good

ps wales is now the wakanda* of the UK (see flag on far right of picture)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWHjvvlX0AExsFf.jpg

*small, hides itself away, will one day rule the world

In a lot of trouble when mining stops.

Ha

this is great. wonder woman great. christopher nolan batman movies great. letitia wright is phenomenal

wonder woman great. christopher nolan batman movies great.

so it's... not great?

it's great. flash gordon great. superman ii great

now you're fuckin talking

was already psyched to see this, glad to see folks here are feeling positive about it

The running time, as usual for superhero movies, gives me pause.

as an inordinately impatient flibbertygibbet of a gemini i have to say i didn't feel the length at all

never mind the length, feel the width

length only drags at the beginning, in the slower moments when they're not in wakanda. otherwise, i was sucked in and completely unaware of time

Yeah, I am amazed that it's that long, it feels a half-hour shorter.

this is great. wonder woman great. christopher nolan batman movies great.

― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 16 February 2018 12:03 (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ah good.
Wait what?
Wait, what?

yeah sorry reggie that's madness

I'm w Alfred on the running times is comic movies. every movie is sooooo long for no reason.

also I'll just assume the last 20 is a big pointless CG battle

wakanda's mythic grandeur feels authentic like the greek accents in themyscira

I'm w Alfred on the running times is comic movies. every movie is sooooo long for no reason.

yeah, Wilson was an hour forty, could have been an hour twenty-nine easy

I don't care for superhero movies, but I adore Lupita N'yongo - is it a big role?

Yes, although Danai Gurira steals the film.

Unlike other overstuffed superhero movies I've seen, I didn't mind the running time because I wanted to keep seeing more of the world they created.

Yes, although Danai Gurira steals the film.

I was already ready for her to steal the film and she did, so for me the REAL film-stealer was Letitia Wright.

Tempted to check this out, although I'm usually disappointed by the hyped superhero movies. But this one looks more stylish than usual.

Anyway yes there's formula at work of course -- Christopher Priest rightly pointed that out in his otherwise wall to wall rave -- but the comparatively focused Big (Intercut) Battle Sequence at the end works well precisely because of how smallish in scale it is. There's a big group battle but not armies, for instance. The wider implications of what happens if Black Panther and company lose lends it all heft without having to demonstrate it in full.

(And I have to say 'Black Panther and company' rather than the 'good guys' because man do Coogler and company do a hell of a job in setting up Erik Killmonger as damaged product of a society who also has more than one damn good point to make throughout the film.)