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anywhere that it's attractive to buy a house, you have no idea what that place will look like in 30 years because climate change

― 龜

having said that most models that don't involve total human extinction have portland coming out fairly well.

ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Sunday, 11 February 2018 23:33 (six years ago) link

Until the cascadia fault slips

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 12 February 2018 00:31 (six years ago) link

the one that's on a presumed 400 to 600 year recurrence cycle and had its last recurrence 300 years ago? compared to new madrid i'm not terribly concerned

ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Monday, 12 February 2018 00:41 (six years ago) link

hey can we predict nuclear annihilation too & really make this thread a party

jeez guys

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 12 February 2018 00:44 (six years ago) link

Tbh I think climate change is good news for my retirement planning considering it makes it more likely I’ll die prematurely

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Monday, 12 February 2018 00:46 (six years ago) link

Lots of unlikely people will suddenly have oceanfront property,

Looking forward to living in the beach, if only for a while

I'm walking on Sondheim (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 12 February 2018 02:07 (six years ago) link

Lots of unlikely people will suddenly have oceanfront property,

Looking forward to living in the beach, if only for a while

― I'm walking on Sondheim (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, February 11, 2018 6:07 PM (yesterday)

I looked at maps a while back, and if I stay in my current place ... total beach!

sarahell, Monday, 12 February 2018 18:55 (six years ago) link

Some advice: don't look too closely at what's floating in the water.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 12 February 2018 18:56 (six years ago) link

Based on the smell of what is currently a lake, this is already my standard practice.

sarahell, Monday, 12 February 2018 18:57 (six years ago) link

Fortunate to be about the last age group at my company with a guaranteed pension. Subsequent union contracts have eliminated the company-provided pension, while promoting personal responsibility for retirement. Didn't start my IRA until early 30s, against much advice, so am behind the curve to some of my peers, but still ahead of the national curve, I think.

Knock on wood, between personal savings, pension, retirement account w/ company match, and possibly Social Security, I should have enough to keep a SINK with a modest lifestyle set. Health is the big question mark.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Monday, 12 February 2018 20:19 (six years ago) link

certainly moving will make you re-evaluate how much vinyl you want to own

remember, even if you have a pension they can evaporate! Nothing is certain. Especially if the pension is not well funded

I hope to retire selling my valuable CD collection

Dean of the University (Latham Green), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 20:51 (six years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 00:01 (six years ago) link

Idk more interested in these poll results than most

alomar lines, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 06:16 (six years ago) link

Poll options not high enough

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 12:17 (six years ago) link

otrm

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 12:32 (six years ago) link

Sorry. Guess I assumed most of you were in terrible positions in regards to retirement savings.

Jeff, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 16:40 (six years ago) link

i think the people that are in great positions want to distinguish themselves from those who are in merely ok positions ...

sarahell, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 16:59 (six years ago) link

Centrists Vs upper middles

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:01 (six years ago) link

I have no idea what position I'm in (not bad? but maybe not good) and figure out what qualifies as good for someone with my income and interests

mh, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:11 (six years ago) link

age is a key factor in "good" -- if i was in my 20s and had what I have saved up, I'd feel pretty good about it, but I'm in my 40s, and so ... not so good.

sarahell, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:14 (six years ago) link

I'll definitely say that if I hadn't've got in and stuck with my UC position all this time since 1997, it might be looking a little dicier for me to an extent. Knowing I've had an actual pension as a backstop -- and that I'm three years away from being able to claim it if needed, though obviously the longer I stay in the system the more it will be -- takes a load off one's mind. (Also, compared to other pension situations that are indeed looking pretty dicey in general, the UC's is on stabler ground overall -- it's certainly nice to hear that the CalPERS system is on better ground now too, though UC's setup is separate from that.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:57 (six years ago) link

I'm kind of hoping, perversely, that the pension plan gets killed and rolled into my 401k or something as a lump sum? Because I think I have to retire from this place to get the pension (or get laid off) and I'd like to quit before then.

mh, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:15 (six years ago) link

Are you fully vested at all?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:17 (six years ago) link

oh wait, I am behind on reading up on the changes to the plan

ignore previous post, I guess I don't care about that particular thing anymore

mh, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:19 (six years ago) link

just reading this thread title alone gave me anxiety . im out

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:19 (six years ago) link

just reading this thread title alone gave me anxiety . im out

― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, February 27, 2018 1:19 PM (twenty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

same. don't be a music writer unless you want to completely destroy your future, defined as the span of time after you expire, defined as being older than 25

algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:44 (six years ago) link

even pensions can get wiped out if they are not well managed.

the best retirement strategy is probably to go live in a different country - its the new retirement immigration plan!

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:05 (six years ago) link

Dont have to live like a 401k refugee

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:05 (six years ago) link

the best retirement strategy is probably to go live in a different country - its the new retirement immigration plan!

― Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 6:05 AM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Grand old tradition in this, at least from the UK, soon to be halted by brexit.

I’m planning on retiring to japan as the will have the best aged care robots.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:20 (six years ago) link

Good point man, the bots will be our bedpans!

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:23 (six years ago) link

until they unionize

it's my leopard. (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:25 (six years ago) link

yes I have emigrated from my home country in part for retirement reasons (& other social safety network reasons), I recommend it warmly to others

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:27 (six years ago) link

I know people who saved, on their own, hundreds of thousands of dollars, through having a good job, cheap rent and no kids. I am not them. Thank god for 401k (and pension too, tho not really sure what I need to do to get it)

Dominique, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:28 (six years ago) link

read that as: 5-reasons-retire-canada.asap

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:52 (six years ago) link

Canada is now KNown as NATION FORMERLY KNOWN AS CANADA

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:59 (six years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 00:01 (six years ago) link

Srsly poll the 47 and pls be srs this time with the numbers

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 00:09 (six years ago) link

10k to 50k here. i'm gonna live on twigs and berries

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 00:29 (six years ago) link

Ur young man you'll be sound

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 00:34 (six years ago) link

Srsly poll the 47 and pls be srs this time with the numbers
― Simpson L. (darraghmac), Wednesday, February 28, 2018 12:09 AM (fifteen hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not bragging, more of a reflection on growing up lower income, and tilting the other way as a single, no kids guy (I save vs. spend, maybe to a fault). Have been with same company since 23, saving for retirement since 31 or so (starting at 8%, now at 20%), so at $450K in IRA alone. Above water in house, annual pension is secure, and have good emergency savings set aside. Not accounting for Social Security, feels like with my standard of living, I can still retire early.

All comes down to health, really. Could save like crazy, and keel over with it unused. Or could retire, everything crashes or inflates, and I'm penniless. At which point, the Bacon Retirement Plan comes in: one pound of fried pepper bacon per day, until the heart seizes.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:15 (six years ago) link

Nicely done, no lie. (Except for that final backup plan.)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:50 (six years ago) link

unless he or she makes it a hit youtube show to annoy a retired whiney

Dat Login was the dname u doofus (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 17:00 (six years ago) link

I just plan to die when I run out of money.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 17:02 (six years ago) link

I have about 300k in a 401k I was able to save when I worked like a slave at a law firm (I turn 40 next year). But Im a. worried about the hyper stock market bubble exploding and slashing that number in half and b. the rest of my savings/net worth lol dipped below 25k recently after a move and my budgeting didn't include health insurance that I'm not eligible for until mid March.. not in an insane bind but its making me anxious as hell working with less and less of a safety net and being unable to save.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 17:11 (six years ago) link

it seems the DINK lifestyle is the only solvent one these days

Kids are a luxury

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 18:49 (six years ago) link

otm

Bully Corgan (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 18:57 (six years ago) link

xpost If you are super worried about a stock market bubble (although it only matters what your account is worth when you actually withdraw the money) you could just transfer the 401k to an IRA and redistribute the funds or hold them in cash/savings until a time that you feel things are cheaper.

Yerac, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 18:59 (six years ago) link

everything crashes or inflates, and I'm penniless

...as would be everyone whose net worth could be written without at least a generous handful of zeroes. A general financial catastrophe can't be planned around. You just have to gut it out with whatever resources you can salvage from the fire. But it's always a good idea to have some tangible assets that aren't just 'paper' or digits on a bank's balance sheet, because those are the first to immolate.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 19:02 (six years ago) link


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