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I don't remember the 3-4-$1 deal, but Music Blvd also had a $10 coupon with no minimum purchase so I got a ton of free $8-$9 things.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 12 February 2018 15:43 (six years ago) link

Gee, I wonder why they couldn't stay in business.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 12 February 2018 15:44 (six years ago) link

i think black star still sounds great

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 February 2018 15:44 (six years ago) link

Yeah this is a solid list, would quibble with the order but can't think of too many personal favourites they've missed - DJ Quik, Tori Amos (like katherine says this isn't surprising) and on the emo side, Jets to Brazil.

Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 12 February 2018 15:46 (six years ago) link

i think black star still sounds great

― It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, February 12, 2018 7:44 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yup

brimstead, Monday, 12 February 2018 15:48 (six years ago) link

new rap album i listened to a ton in 1998. redman. rap album i would most likely play now really really loud: showbiz & ag.

scott seward, Monday, 12 February 2018 15:51 (six years ago) link

I think my most listened to album was Goodie Mob's Still Standing

President Keyes, Monday, 12 February 2018 15:53 (six years ago) link

The idea that the Blackstar album has aged worse than the majority of the list is pretty laughable.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Monday, 12 February 2018 15:54 (six years ago) link

funny story: in 1999 i went to the rap record store to buy records and i went to pay and to my complete shock Guru was behind the counter (there for an in-store or something) and i was like hey man how you doin' and he was like hey dude what's up and i was totally afraid that he was gonna make fun of me for only buying the slim shady LP and a company flow album. he didn't though. he was nice.

scott seward, Monday, 12 February 2018 15:57 (six years ago) link

i listened to brand nubian's 1998 album last week. i had completely forgotten that it existed until i got the CD at a record show recently. it really resembles its cover musically. not very memorable.

scott seward, Monday, 12 February 2018 16:13 (six years ago) link

98 was the best year for rap, i dont think that tribe album would crack my top 30 rap albums for that year and that Bobby Digital album is horrible wtf.

fgti spinner (Spottie), Monday, 12 February 2018 16:20 (six years ago) link

98 was the best year for rap

https://media3.giphy.com/media/p4cqQ0gUIMcU0/giphy.gif

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 12 February 2018 16:24 (six years ago) link

*my favorite

fgti spinner (Spottie), Monday, 12 February 2018 16:45 (six years ago) link

i haven't listened to that tribe album in a long time, but i've always felt it was formless and a little too smooth

hoooyaaargh it's me satan (voodoo chili), Monday, 12 February 2018 16:48 (six years ago) link

bobby digital album is a really really weird pick

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 February 2018 16:48 (six years ago) link

it was no 1988 but there was lots of good stuff to listen to in 1998.

scott seward, Monday, 12 February 2018 16:50 (six years ago) link

would rather listen to a killarmy album than the bobby digital.

scott seward, Monday, 12 February 2018 16:50 (six years ago) link

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Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 12 February 2018 16:53 (six years ago) link

cappadonna the pillage and method man's tical 2000 are both underrated and better than bobby digital

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 February 2018 16:54 (six years ago) link

at least they got the #1 pick right

hoooyaaargh it's me satan (voodoo chili), Monday, 12 February 2018 16:59 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN9muHLuHDc

scott seward, Monday, 12 February 2018 17:11 (six years ago) link

Hip hop fans who were actually there at the time saw the Bobby Digital album for what it was: a complete and total disappointment. Borderline wack.

Also, xpost to scott: the best song the Black Eyed Peas ever did was the b-side to 'Fallin' Up.' It was called 'Le Rox' and only ever came out on the promo 12" single, I think.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Monday, 12 February 2018 18:13 (six years ago) link

I liked the Bobby Digital album in 1998, but I also was stanning for Jon Spencer Blues Explosion, Eels, Dr. Octagon, Cornershop, Fatboy Slim, Timbaland & Magoo, Soul Coughing and other Spin Magazine/120 Minutes pomo bullshit

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 12 February 2018 18:27 (six years ago) link

this song is so good and it has Force MDs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-jC3sIIVGY

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 12 February 2018 18:32 (six years ago) link

I was just thinking about the Bobby Digital record the other day because it's one of maybe a dozen CDs that I never got around to ripping to MP3. I probably only listened to it once or twice and don't really remember anything bad, just disappointing. I was also let down by the Love Movement and Moment of Truth but I've at least listened to them in the last 20 years.

joygoat, Monday, 12 February 2018 18:33 (six years ago) link

it's hilarious that we're all just debating p4k's rap choices, like there's any way they'd be able to win on that front no matter what they did

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 12 February 2018 18:36 (six years ago) link

yeah otm, but uh, bobby digital REALLY shouldnt be on that list. you could maybe defend everything else or at least shrug them off.

fgti spinner (Spottie), Monday, 12 February 2018 18:40 (six years ago) link

A creative vocabulary saves some grace, but the "pussys," "bitches" and "motherfuckers" far outweigh the "tighter than prescription bottles" and "Mr. Potatohead Ore Ida deep fried krinkle cuts."

omar little, Monday, 12 February 2018 18:40 (six years ago) link

Like even if they put Goodie Mob and M.O.P. in there, there'd still be post-ethan dudes going "wow, no Fat Pat or Mac Dre, east coast bias much?!

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 12 February 2018 18:41 (six years ago) link

Dr. Octagon is a weird omission esp cuz it's a big part of the indie-rock friendly rap canon and a way better "eccentric" rap album pick than Bobby Digital

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 February 2018 18:44 (six years ago) link

1996, duder

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 12 February 2018 18:45 (six years ago) link

also don't forget that Keith was bent because he thought rza was biting his schitck

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o487/thekrinker/Robbie%20Analog_zpsso5jewfe.png

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 12 February 2018 18:50 (six years ago) link

i just didn't think that anyone even still listened to the bobby digital album. it really was a bummer at the time. such a promising cover.

m.o.p. would have been a fine choice. or redman. redman and styles of beyond. played those a ton. not even the best redman album but still lots of fun.

scott seward, Monday, 12 February 2018 19:46 (six years ago) link

I just wanna post this song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtzNc2hyJqM

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 12 February 2018 19:53 (six years ago) link

I can't think of a Jay Z or Nas song with rapping as good as Redman's "Da Goodness," don't @ me

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 12 February 2018 19:57 (six years ago) link

Talking to Tyshawn Sorey about Redman for The Wire was one of the most fun things I did as a journalist last year.

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 12 February 2018 19:59 (six years ago) link

imo the Def Squard record is the best 98 album that has Redman on it

intheblanks, Monday, 12 February 2018 19:59 (six years ago) link

Def Squad record is so good

i think everyone really did Red's career dirrty

Malpractice sucked but dude shouldn't have disappeared from the earth after he started fucking with dance music and couldn't make commercial hits. I keep saying Madlib or someone should produce a rappy-rap album for him like Freddie Gibb's Pinata, and he could be playing Bonnaroo second stage too

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 12 February 2018 20:05 (six years ago) link

The list is pretty...whatever, but no "Ocean Songs"? Lame

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 12 February 2018 20:06 (six years ago) link

posted my top 40 rap albums from 98 in here

fgti spinner (Spottie), Monday, 12 February 2018 20:16 (six years ago) link

i just didn't think that anyone even still listened to the bobby digital album.

i do!

j., Monday, 12 February 2018 20:18 (six years ago) link

When I think of best hip hop records of 1998, Aceyalone's A Book of Human Language is always one that comes up.

Also, my hands-down most played 12" of that year was the unofficial single that Ras Kass released, 'Understandable Smooth.' It made me hopeful for his second album, but of course, there's no way in hell it would have seen an official release with that sample.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Monday, 12 February 2018 20:20 (six years ago) link

Rassassination had some great songs.

fgti spinner (Spottie), Monday, 12 February 2018 20:24 (six years ago) link

I gave it the benefit of the doubt at the time, but, in retrospect, it was pretty not good.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Monday, 12 February 2018 20:37 (six years ago) link

overall yeah for sure.

fgti spinner (Spottie), Monday, 12 February 2018 20:38 (six years ago) link

i like/liked the bob digi album
Docs da Name 2000 is a real important album for me; da goodness is def one of my secret fave trax

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 12 February 2018 22:01 (six years ago) link

reading this list it struck me that i've continually ignored spoon for now 20 years. here's to another 20

marcos, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 17:00 (six years ago) link

Now that Whiney mentioned Eels, a bid sad that Electro-shock Blues isn't on the list.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 17:31 (six years ago) link

i loved electro-shock blues back in the day. now i find it hard to listen to ANY eels, and i'm not sure why. they seem like one of those bands whose standing has dropped a lot in the past 20 years (i'm sure there are at least 5 threads dedicated to this subject)

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 17:43 (six years ago) link


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