the alt-right

I think those are very reasonable fears mordy. my hope is that we see some real-world models start to emerge and provide new strategies. (this is why I think every leftist, including me, is going to be completely insufferable whenever the next UK election gets triggered)

Great post, Mordy – mostly mirrors my own worries and scepticism.

I'm not sure I like measuring suffering in percentages. Surely it's the total number that is important?

― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:32 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/repugnant-conclusion/

I'm not a utilitarian, never mind a negative one.

I just mean that I don't see the good of 45% of people starving vs 50% (say) if it's a greater number of people starving.

Are they ours or theirs starving

Mordy otm obv

Also inequality is a strange thing to measure on even if everyone agreed what we meant by inequality

Oh boy, guess who got printed in the Independent for writing about this:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jordan-peterson-clinical-psychologist-canada-popularity-convincing-why-left-wing-alt-right-cathy-a8208301.html

(Hint: Lacan isn’t mentioned till the 4th paragraph in)

make it stop

With Russell Brand for tomorrow's podcast https://t.co/H7GLekceJz pic.twitter.com/ukXAdQXeov

— Jordan B Peterson (@jordanbpeterson) February 13, 2018

smh @ both of these developments

pwease save us youtube daddy

oh god

Russell Brand isn’t that bad

politically he seems mostly fine? I just find him incredibly annoying lmao

Hes a vapid slapped with good vocabular momentum

slapper

Yeah. I kinda can’t help but empathize with his whole working-out-his-ideas in public thing though. Also he turned away like 20 million dollars he could have claimed after his divorce from Katy Perry.

Big fucking kudos for shagging Katy Perry for free that guy

I have a fairly low threshold for praising people

We may not have that in common

slapped with good vocabular momentum

I love this btw. Joycean.

I have a fairly low threshold for praising people

Yes, that's clear.

Ok, you can’t just second my own self-deprecating comment like it’s your own insult. It’s in the FAQ.

eh, brand is an idiot forever for that "you shouldn't vote" stuff from a few years back

xp treeship otm that shit is lower than sarcasm

I like Brand's podcast (despite him being occasionally annoying--which is really only when he tries to be funny) and think he's pretty sharp but doing this right after Sam Harris means I'm gonna have to take a pass on listening to it.

i liked brand's amy winehouse eulogy

I think peterson just tweeted to a zizek parody account... calling for a duel. He pinned it. Unreal.

Tbf mistaking a zizek parody for zizek is extremely relatable

I'm not a fan of Brand but he has quite an audience and I dunno why you would use that to introduce ppl to Peterson.

Russell Brand isn’t that bad

― treeship 2, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 01:32 (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You deserve to be FP'd to death for this.

Love how Mordy looked into worker run enterprises and inferred a whole little dystopia out of it. Are you writing this shit up as a novel Mordy where can I buy it?

Cut him some slack, the lad's feeling pessimistic :(

I'll try but I can't make any promises.

I didn't know Russell speaks big words fast = Joycean, but it's just another day on ilxor dot com.

Can't quite parse the man-bun plus what looks like it might be an Alcoholics Anonymous hoodie.

Russell BRAND amirite

eh, brand is an idiot forever for that "you shouldn't vote" stuff from a few years back

he was pretty much the only person in the public eye trying to articulate this despite how common a view it is & I've yet to see a good counter argument. if miliband hadn't made the changes to the labour party that allowed for corbynism i wld still agree w him. ppl who are much less politically active or effective feel unselfconscious chiding him for his irresponsibility. this is often the case w brand, who more than most ppl just gets dismissed wholesale for a few moral failings or just bc he irks (& obv you can wonder what it says about the culture that a handsome, optimistic, peacocking, working class autodidact annoys so many)

I wasn't aware Mark E. Smith annoyed that many people tbf.

oh you

ogmor otm

I didn't know Russell speaks big words fast = Joycean, but it's just another day on ilxor dot com.

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, February 14, 2018 5:30 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was saying that Dag’s post was Joycean, in its phrasing, because. The typos seemed like neologisms. “slapped with good vocabular momentum.”

I’m going to make Genius annotation pages for each of my posts from now on.

He's completely fallen off my radar since the Miliband era tbh, now we've got Corbyn after all, so maybe he's really great now ...

i dunno he seems to be posing approvingly with an actual fascist dick upthread so maybe not

'slapped' was a typo but 'good vocabular momentum' was excellent

agenbrand of inwit

darragh can turn a phrase

ogmor makes a good case for Brand - its hard not to feel cynical about his motives at the same time though