Weinsteins step down as Miramax CEOs

great post fgti

interesting to hear what's going on behind the FAMOUS GAY PERSON DOORS; sad that it's pretty much the same all over

yeah. i have nothing to add on the subject and will avoid it here henceforth as i do everywhere else online.

even if I think the ultimate problem is that these power relationships shouldn't exist at all or should have the power differentials between humans be as minimal as possible

a big problem is in a patriarchal society men by default have more power than women. it goes beyond authority figures, it permeates every interpersonal hierarchy

Thanks for that, fgti. Window into where the conversation will go from here. And yeah, Male Pattern Badness.

i have bailed on this thread for a while and come back to find this extremely interesting post that contains this:

a larger cultural indictment toward the very nature of power

which i could not agree more is desparately needed.

Thank you for sharing.

interesting to hear what's going on behind the FAMOUS GAY PERSON DOORS; sad that it's pretty much the same all over

Gay culture is this wonderful microcosmic test society to examine the manifestations of bad maleness and white supremacy, the nasty impulses of white men are somehow protected by dint of it being a culture defined, from start-to-finish, by male desire.

It's kind of like observing Iceland to see the effects of runaway liberalism and sanctimonious nationalism

*rimshot*

i just hope you're keeping your diaries up to date; that's a sound retirement plan

"male pattern badness" is A++

thank you for that fgti. i agree that the systems for recourse are nowhere near being in place yet

re fgti - after the latest detailed accounts of Bruce Weber & Mario Testino, i wondered the same. had they achieved these heights fuelled by sexual ambition from the beginning? or had their fame afforded them the belief that they were now entitled to an endless boy-buffet? either way it’s some deeply pathological shit

I have a deep and abiding mistrust of the personality that generally accompanies wild material success.

Or political (or any kind of high level I guess) power imo

Well, a decade or so later, I think that the impulses are intrinsically linked. I'm now in the "currency was invented so that men could affect sexual and social viability through their cabbage years" camp, a natural logical dovetail from the "prostitution is the oldest profession" adage I guess

A non-progressive attitude that I'll cop to in all of this hurricane of information is that I actually really do care about these "old white men", where they'll go or what they'll do, I don't really subscribe to the "fuck em" rhetoric because they're (we're) gonna be voting til they're dead, and we're all gonna be old and desperately lonely some day, and at 38 I'm already starting to understand the profound terror that accompanies the loss of power as one loses bodily agency, social and sexual viability,

I mean, fuck it, I just bought a dog

She's so cute I love her

i’m 42 and a woman and “mouthy” and i totally understand that feeling of terror (and i got a cat a year and a half ago).

i bought a skull

danzig wants it

the skull or the cat?

Dare I say I'm not surprised in the slightest.

MCC Theater severs ties with Playwright-in-Residence Neil LaBute https://t.co/tXgxiarIGQ pic.twitter.com/jki1ujHzRi

— Playbill (@playbill) February 15, 2018

(No reason is given but speculation is high on Twitter and...I can guess why.)

dude used to troll AOL movie chatrooms and boards for ladies back in the day

truly a mystery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8CEABSGgv4

Reminds me that there were shitty things about Aaron Eckhardt as well from the In The Company of Men shoot, from the female lead.

Verso has a new free-for-now collection of pieces on #MeToo

https://www.versobooks.com/books/2773-where-freedom-starts-sex-power-violence-metoo

Contributors include Tarana Burke and Elizabeth Adetiba, Lauren Berlant, Tithi Bhattacharya, Stephanie Coontz and Hope Reese, Estelle Freedman, Melissa Gira Grant, Linda Gordon, Jessie Kindig, Laura Kipnis, Victoria Law, Maricruz Ladino and Gabriel Thompson, Magally A. Miranda Alcázar, Liz Mason-Deese, Danielle McGuire, Larissa Pham, Alex N. Press, Jane Ward, and Terrion L. Williamson.

just some "personal mistakes"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43134265

Appears that NPR is interviewing numerous people about Sherman Alexie, looks pretty bad.

Good morning, all.

For those who are learning about what are now several dozen allegations against Sherman Alexie--all of which are 100% credible--go to my TL &/or search for his name on Twitter. Others are sharing their stories, too.

Here's what I've learned since last night:

— Litsa Dremousis (@LitsaDremousis) February 24, 2018

http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/ryan-seacrest-sexual-abuse-allegations-stylist-details-1202710460/

jesus christ

it literally hadn't occurred to me until just now that seacrest wasn't gay but i haven't thought about him in years

(i know he has live 5 tv shows and 10 radio shows)

“Seacrest has repeatedly refuted Hardy’s claims.” doesn’t mean what it seems like the author thinks it means.

yeah that line was pretty O_o

"refute" isn't a synonym for "deny", my dude. you can't pussyfoot around with shit like that in a story like this either!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZXP9MmnjQU

Wait, can't refute mean deny? Not the primary definition but in regards to an accusation it works right?

no

yeah no it should really be "deny"

1 : to prove wrong by argument or evidence : show to be false or erroneous
2 : to deny the truth or accuracy of - "refuted the allegations"

We refute these aspersions whether they come from our best friends or our worst foes. — Winston Churchill, address in House of Commons, 18 Jan. 1945, in Nathan Aus, ed., Voices of History 1945–46, 1946

he is not saying "we prove wrong these aspersions"

i think this basically means ogmor, Simon H, VegGrrl and silby just got refuted 2x

Wow tracer quoting Churchill in order to hammer refutees brexit can't come quick enough for this guy

lol

surely one of these senses originated as a misunderstanding of the other. it is quite a pompous and presumptuous word and borrowing that pomp without the refutation to back it up is a slimy move

Alexie had a nervous breakdown and cancelled his book tour this past year, I wonder how much of that might have been prompted by his impending fear that people were going to start calling him out.

Alexie is a really funny guy, and a great writer; but I'm not very surprised by this news. I see other people called out Daniel Handler as well, but those seem off base to me; he's basically being taken to task for making sexual jokes around people. I've met him a bunch of times, and yeah, he does this; he's kind of a dick, he thinks he's funny (I think he's funny myself), but if people are really taking authors to task for being crude, and also, for not being helpful mentors...well, that's like every fucking writer in the industry, or almost all of them.

I have long thought that Alexie's public persona had an undercurrent of nastiness. I'm almost certain I've met Handler (pre-fame) but can't recall a specific memory.

(Note, I don't mean to say that one's vague personal impressions of celebrities should matter in assessing the truth of allegations against them.)

this is really interesting to me -- failure to be a quality mentor is par for the course isn't it? that's grounds for public skewering now?

Evan Rachel Wood's congressional testimony: https://www.thewrap.com/evan-rachel-wood-recounts-harrowing-sexual-assault-to-dc-lawmakers-video/

Mayor of Denver getting the spotlight for sending dorky/flirty text messages to a cop a few years ago

https://www.denverpost.com/2018/02/27/denver-mayor-michael-hancock-text-messages/

After spotting her on TV at a Denver Nuggets game, he texted: “You look sexy in all that black.” Another time, he complimented her haircut and said: “You make it hard on a brotha to keep it correct every day.”

Another text asked her about pole-dancing classes: “So I just watched this story on women taking pole dancing classes. Have you ever taken one? Why do women take the course? If not have you ever considered taking one and why? Your thoughts?” When she didn’t respond, the officer said, she received a followup text from Hancock: “Be careful, I’m curious. LOL!”

coming up on Frontline this week to celebrate the oscars

Drawing on exclusive insider accounts, Weinstein, a one-hour special co-produced with the BBC, examines how Weinstein used lawyers and private detectives to help him suppress sexual harassment allegations. The film shines new light on what those around Weinstein knew about his behavior, and when.

“I think looking back that I did know and I chose to suppress it,” Paul Webster, former head of production of Miramax, says in his first television interview on Weinstein’s alleged sexual misconduct. “I think we were all enablers. I think we were we were all complicit.”

“I had no idea of the breadth and enormity of the story. I thought he just preyed on us,” a former Weinstein assistant, Zelda Perkins, says in the documentary. “That was the most shocking thing, realizing he was a predator and he had been seriously abusing people with total impunity for all this time.”

The film traces Weinstein’s alleged predatory behavior all the way back to his very first movie, drawing on interviews with former executives at both Miramax and The Weinstein Company, a former assistant, and some of his accusers — including a woman who worked with Weinstein on his first film and is speaking out for the first time.

Using these firsthand accounts, Weinstein shows how the mogul successfully used non-disclosure agreements over the years to settle sexual harassment allegations — and examines how he hired private intelligence firms to investigate both his accusers, and journalists and actors who might pose a threat to him.

FRONTLINE also sat down with Eric Schneiderman, the New York State Attorney General who filed suit against The Weinstein Company: “[Weinstein] was using the company to advance his sexual interests and there are a lot of employees who were either manipulated or intimidated into helping him along,” Schneiderman tells FRONTLINE.

More than 100 women have now come for­ward to accuse Weinstein of sexual misconduct, abuse, and even rape. Weinstein denies all allegations of nonconsensual sexual contact and criminal conduct. Filled with fresh insights from those who worked with Weinstein, those who tried to confront him, and the journalists who ultimately broke the story, Weinstein is an in-depth look at the long history of allegations against the powerful producer.

“Any time you have a story like this where people are getting hurt over decades and decades, there are people around who knew enough and could have done more to stop it,” Ronan Farrow of The New Yorker tells FRONTLINE in the documentary.

Weinstein premieres Friday, Mar. 2 on PBS stations (check local listings), online at pbs.org/frontline, and will stream live on FRONTLINE’s Facebook page (facebook.com/frontline).

definitely setting my DVR for that, thx LL

http://www.chatelaine.com/survey-define-masculinity/

finally, what men think

When women talk about the pervasiveness of sexual harassment, 25 percent of respondents said they feel “nothing.” How do the other 75 percent feel?

Sad 42%
Angry 32%
Bored 12%
Persecuted 9%
Guilty 5%
Other 8%

Among the “other” answers were: “Reminded that men need to call out other men when they are creeps.” “That most women are bringing it on themselves.” “Ambivalent. I see little evidence of sexual harassment everywhere.” “I feel bad for the ones who have actually had it happen to them, but also persecuted by those who just want attention.”

what a gender