the alt-right

I'm not a fan of Brand but he has quite an audience and I dunno why you would use that to introduce ppl to Peterson.

Russell Brand isn’t that bad

― treeship 2, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 01:32 (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You deserve to be FP'd to death for this.

Love how Mordy looked into worker run enterprises and inferred a whole little dystopia out of it. Are you writing this shit up as a novel Mordy where can I buy it?

Cut him some slack, the lad's feeling pessimistic :(

I'll try but I can't make any promises.

I didn't know Russell speaks big words fast = Joycean, but it's just another day on ilxor dot com.

Can't quite parse the man-bun plus what looks like it might be an Alcoholics Anonymous hoodie.

Russell BRAND amirite

eh, brand is an idiot forever for that "you shouldn't vote" stuff from a few years back

he was pretty much the only person in the public eye trying to articulate this despite how common a view it is & I've yet to see a good counter argument. if miliband hadn't made the changes to the labour party that allowed for corbynism i wld still agree w him. ppl who are much less politically active or effective feel unselfconscious chiding him for his irresponsibility. this is often the case w brand, who more than most ppl just gets dismissed wholesale for a few moral failings or just bc he irks (& obv you can wonder what it says about the culture that a handsome, optimistic, peacocking, working class autodidact annoys so many)

I wasn't aware Mark E. Smith annoyed that many people tbf.

oh you

ogmor otm

I didn't know Russell speaks big words fast = Joycean, but it's just another day on ilxor dot com.

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, February 14, 2018 5:30 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was saying that Dag’s post was Joycean, in its phrasing, because. The typos seemed like neologisms. “slapped with good vocabular momentum.”

I’m going to make Genius annotation pages for each of my posts from now on.

He's completely fallen off my radar since the Miliband era tbh, now we've got Corbyn after all, so maybe he's really great now ...

i dunno he seems to be posing approvingly with an actual fascist dick upthread so maybe not

'slapped' was a typo but 'good vocabular momentum' was excellent

agenbrand of inwit

darragh can turn a phrase

ogmor makes a good case for Brand - its hard not to feel cynical about his motives at the same time though

my feelings on Brand kind of vacillate wildly but I'm not against him going tete-a-tete with a walking alt-right meme so long as he bodies him

that C4 interview with Peterson was an absolute disaster on account of the dreadful interviewer who wasn't interested in calmly picking off the giant holes in Peterson's arguments. how many times: show, don't tell

Whoever commissioned that interview should be shot.

yep. C4 knew what it was doing and knew what would happen

Whatever you think of Brand's "don't vote" position surely it's hard to take seriously when after one interview with Miliband he decided "oh no actually vote labour" after the deadline to register had already expired?

Like I understand that there's something to learning and growing in public but that was just taking the piss.

Brand appeared with Ed before the election despite saying don't vote. I just wouldn't trust a thing he says. Xps Too erratic.

Who could we trust to interview Jordan Peterson in this damned country? Paul Mason? No. Marina Hyde? Yeah maybe, but she doesn't really do TV work

Maybe that Chakrabortty dude

Are there any homegrown comedians that UK ilxors can stand

Or maybe interviewing him in the first place is a lose-lose game, as SV has said before

We only like Stewart Lee and there's a guy called Kitson too but none of his stuff's online. Everyone else is awful (or something)

Does he even have a cult here? It's one thing to confront someone who's already popular, another to introduce new opponents to yr audience.

xpost imago otm afaict. As an immigrant I can never summon the hatred that only true Brits can feel for pretty much all of their celebrities but I will say seeing all these ppl appear on panel shows constantly and have their own dumb history shows on BBC4 has made me understand that rage a bit more

I like Sean Lock but I'm not a Brit

that Gary Younge guy made pretty short work of Spencer.

yeah because he actually examined what he said and showed it up for being bullshit - rather than most interviewers who encounter him by going OH NO YOU DIDNT

Are there any homegrown comedians that UK ilxors can stand

If you lived here you'd be the same. Does Russell Brand still consider himself a comedian?

Love how Mordy looked into worker run enterprises and inferred a whole little dystopia out of it. Are you writing this shit up as a novel Mordy where can I buy it?

Wtf are you talking about I said I didn’t think it could be a model for running an entire country where in your fevered idiot brain did that become a dystopia?

Guess I shouldn’t expect more from a tankie.

Tom D, it wasn’t a judgement. I’m sure I would be, or at least if I was native. I do think there’s something cultural to the general dislike of people who think they’re funny, that we aren’t brought up with over here.

I’m not sure who counts as a comedian these days. There are plenty of people who are generally famous for and make living by joking and clowning but don’t do stand up or act much.

I do think there’s something cultural to the general dislike of people who think they’re funny, that we aren’t brought up with over here.

Maybe you have funnier comedians.

i think they do

Maria Bamford and Gregg Turkington alone push them over the UK

None of the "big laughers" who risk serious hilarity induced self-harm by attending the Edinburgh Festival on ILX?

Comedians of a certain age (as most cultural journos) of a certain age have the usual garbage politics

Yeah practically none of them think Stalin was a pretty cool bro.

Calm down Mordy, lock yourself up in your room. Stay safe.

I don't think this is a comedian thing, really, Brit ILX opinions on British actors, directors, "cultural commentators" equally hostile. Not saying they're wrong mind.

Joanna Hogg is s good Brit director. ILX generally likes her.

I think it's the excess of ghastly comedy panel shows which really puts ILXors off British comedians, especially when they seem happy to share a laugh and a joke w/ despicable pols like Boris Johnson or Ruth Davidson - I'm right in thinking that these shows don't really exist in America?

Loads of good ILX-approved Brit directors

(xp) OTM, and these shitty, cheap to produce, panel shows need more and more of these talentless cunts to keep going.

darragh can turn a phrase

― treeship 2, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:40 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

If I'd only Russell's (any Russell's) looks