it's like damien thorn is the US budget director
http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=C23C3PqVgR0
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 18:10 (six years ago) link
"in a perfect world we wouldn't need poverty programs" amazing
what's on mulvaney's forehead?
― adam the (abanana), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 22:54 (six years ago) link
It's Ash Wednesday
― I'm walking on Sondheim (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 23:05 (six years ago) link
ah
― adam the (abanana), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 23:32 (six years ago) link
because helping people who need help is what leads to.. people needing more help? of course!
― Nhex, Thursday, 15 February 2018 05:21 (six years ago) link
white house statements that read like onion headlines
https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/need-know-violent-animals-ms-13/
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 21 May 2018 18:11 (five years ago) link
Too many innocent Americans have fallen victim to the unthinkable violence of MS-13’s animals.
Oh ferchrissakes! What about dozens of innocent victims who are wedding guests in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen and other places, who keep getting violently blown to bits by the heinous animals at the US Department of Defense, who use drone-fired missiles to kill, maim and spread terror?
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 21 May 2018 18:29 (five years ago) link
That's a White House statement? Sadly it's far too late to say, good luck, USA.
― Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Monday, 21 May 2018 18:35 (five years ago) link
Made me go wtf. It'd been a while.
― pomenitul, Monday, 21 May 2018 18:37 (five years ago) link
well, those folks are brown
the folks in ms-13 are brown
you can probably join the dots yrself from there
― i am fast and full of teeth. i willl die in a barn fire (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 21 May 2018 18:52 (five years ago) link
calling 'some people' "animals" is fine. but don't you dare call real americans "deplorable"!
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 21 May 2018 19:16 (five years ago) link
good job whitehouse now do one for "shithole" countries
― frogbs, Monday, 21 May 2018 19:21 (five years ago) link
https://patch.com/new-jersey/cherryhill/cherry-hill-east-principal-apologizes-insensitive-prom-ticket?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=blasts&utm_content=national
― how's life, Monday, 21 May 2018 19:32 (five years ago) link
NEW: mugshot of the man accused of walking into Boulevard Mall with a fake gun. Emile Daren Hobson has been charged with committing an act of terrorism. @FOX5Vegas pic.twitter.com/QG30Crnw4i— Tiana Bohner (@FOX5_Tiana) May 18, 2018
wow bad news for the white girl who was walking around Kent State with a rifle
― frogbs, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 15:55 (five years ago) link
utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=blasts&utm_content=nationalfacebook.com social campaign blasts national - probably racist
― we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 16:29 (five years ago) link
the barrier is Barack Obama, who radicalized the party with his pessimism, who reminded us of past sins, who told Americans they should feel ashamed of themselves
https://nypost.com/2018/07/09/its-not-bernie-whos-holding-the-democrats-back-its-obama/
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 17:32 (five years ago) link
and then fulfilled by Trump, who has radicalized our pessimism, committed himself to past sins, and made Americans feel ashamed of ourselves
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 17:37 (five years ago) link
no, really
https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/charlottes-city-council-votes-to-accept-contracts-to-host-rnc-in-2020/275-574409498
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 18:29 (five years ago) link
BAD OPTICS
https://secondnexus.com/news/trump-administration-not-assist-obama/
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 21 July 2018 13:46 (five years ago) link
I keep getting called "bro", "broski", or some other variation of the term, by black guys. It feels like I'm being made fun of for being a generic white doucher. Which tbh is how I present but anyway. I'm getting through it.
― rip van wanko, Friday, 3 August 2018 16:36 (five years ago) link
sounds like a scene from Blindspotting
― Nhex, Friday, 3 August 2018 16:50 (five years ago) link
i think you are overreacting
i wouldn't worry until you get called 'brian scalabrine'
― mookieproof, Friday, 3 August 2018 16:50 (five years ago) link
I keep getting called "bro", "broski", or some other variation of the term
Are you Polish?
― pplains, Friday, 3 August 2018 17:05 (five years ago) link
Does “spook” have several meanings or nah? Bc I use “spook” the way we might refer to our resident ILX user’s profession but also I have heard it used against POC so help me out here. Is it one of those things where we need to phase it out bc it’s too close for comfort or is it context specific thank you
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 6 September 2018 04:35 (five years ago) link
You can’t go wrong not using words that can be confused for being kinda racist even if they aren’t necessarily so.
― faculty w1fe (silby), Thursday, 6 September 2018 04:41 (five years ago) link
The Human Stain to thread
― the bhagwanadook (symsymsym), Thursday, 6 September 2018 04:51 (five years ago) link
right obv but also I’m just asking more broadly
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 6 September 2018 04:52 (five years ago) link
I think it’s context specific but also understand why the BBC renamed the show to “MI5” when they brought it over here
― Paleo Weltschmerz (El Tomboto), Thursday, 6 September 2018 04:54 (five years ago) link
A spy is sometimes called a spook because their profession requires them to adopt a certain invisibility. Black people have been called spooks because, supposedly, being black makes them invisible in the dark and this was considered a humorous idea by racists. No black person should be called a spook under any circumstances, but one can usually pick out the intended idea easily enough from the context.
This seems a bit like the controversy over using the word niggardly to describe a cheapskate.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 6 September 2018 04:55 (five years ago) link
I think it can be useful in describing a spy working within a specific context... but you want to be sure it can't be confused with the epithet which is dated but still offensive xxp
― strong deutan (rip van wanko), Thursday, 6 September 2018 04:57 (five years ago) link
Also I am tempering two pop culture references,
One is back to the future which is obv derogatory and,
A Bloom County cartoon where Steve Dallas is dancing like Michael Jackson and he’s internally monologue-ing about whether he’s working for the feds or not
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 6 September 2018 04:57 (five years ago) link
Niggardly is so obviously antiquated and trolly that is should be retired.
Also sort of related I did a deep dive on “shyster” and it’s historically more about “sheiesse” but it’s veering so close to “Shylock” that it falls in the same not-ok place
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 6 September 2018 05:00 (five years ago) link
Anyway thank u all for this frank and honest discussion
There are so many racist epithets that I've never heard of and only learned about in mid-adulthood. Cf someone I'm normally friendly with unselfconsciously using the word "Shylock" in a phone convo while I was standing right there.
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 6 September 2018 12:47 (five years ago) link
I'd been thinking that it might not be a bad idea to have a thread for words whose racist/xenophobic origins you were not previously aware (cue the story about that one time when I was a kid and had the misfortune of learning what a particular Devo song title meant only after I'd walked through a room singing it while my mom's friend (whose son has Down Syndrome) was visiting).
― Digital Squirts (Old Lunch), Thursday, 6 September 2018 12:55 (five years ago) link
No I think that's probably not a good idea.
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 6 September 2018 13:04 (five years ago) link
I predict the existence of the thread would prompt a lot of posts that will basically be micro-/aggressions to readers. I regret my anecdotal post above already, because I felt really shocked and bad when it happened and it wasn't even about me. I don't want that experience to continue to hurt others on the internet.
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 6 September 2018 13:09 (five years ago) link
Hmm. I'm just thinking about that thing where hateful speech is so seamlessly absorbed into our culture and seemingly defanged with time and distance that it becomes very easy to thoughtlessly use words and phrases that seem completely innocuous but which have sinister origins. Like I only just learned about 'peanut gallery'.
― Digital Squirts (Old Lunch), Thursday, 6 September 2018 13:14 (five years ago) link
What exactly did you just learn?
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 6 September 2018 13:24 (five years ago) link
Originally a derogatory reference to unwanted commentary from African Americans relegated to the cheap seats.
― Digital Squirts (Old Lunch), Thursday, 6 September 2018 13:28 (five years ago) link
You should probably go unlearn that.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 6 September 2018 13:37 (five years ago) link
If you have some information to share...
― Digital Squirts (Old Lunch), Thursday, 6 September 2018 13:39 (five years ago) link
just had to look up if "Blockhead" had any meaning I was previously unaware of
― frogbs, Thursday, 6 September 2018 13:43 (five years ago) link
xp The cheapest seats in vaudeville theatres (IE the highest) were also the ones that saw the most consumption of peanuts, the cheapest of the snack foods. Which also made them more likely to heckle by throwing them.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 6 September 2018 13:47 (five years ago) link
Right, I get that. But also: who do you imagine the holders of the cheapest seats were during the heyday of vaudeville?
― Digital Squirts (Old Lunch), Thursday, 6 September 2018 13:58 (five years ago) link
I imagine that a significant percentage were African American, but I'm not sure that's how this works, unless you're claiming that all class-based insults are inherently racist?
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 6 September 2018 14:03 (five years ago) link
I think the suggestion is that all the theaters were segregated and that a whites-only theater had a peanut gallery too? eg we are aaalllllll classist
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 6 September 2018 14:13 (five years ago) link
i don't know how reputable this site is but it seemed fairly well written and researched (which suggests it's not racial)http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2015/03/origin-phrase-peanut-gallery/
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 6 September 2018 14:16 (five years ago) link
― frogbs
not a long history of racist insults in charlie brown. "dennis the menace", otoh...
― milkshake duck george bernard shaw (rushomancy), Thursday, 6 September 2018 14:16 (five years ago) link
Not only are there untold numbers of racist epithets out there, both current and half-forgotten, but there are also untold numbers of folk etymologies that misidentify the origins of words. So any thread devoted to delving into the racist origins of certain words or phrases is bound to contain about equal amounts of information and misinformation. Let's drop the idea.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 6 September 2018 15:58 (five years ago) link