Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

Totally hopeless to think that anything will ever change

If it was a brown guy shouting about Allah we'd have three new racist laws by tomorrow morning

This is the lead story on the UK 24hr news channels but it is literally spend two minutes on it and move on to something else, you know, yet another mass shooting in the USA, not much to see here.

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His last name is Cruz, so maybe there will be other new laws.

good luck USA

He supposedly used an AR-15
― omar little, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 23:27 (yesterday) Permalink

yeah so can we at least ban this one model of gun?

well no because Scalia

Wow, Philip Mudd, a former FBI agent who has interviewed terrorists broke down crying talking about the latest school shooting pic.twitter.com/Kp4rMfcS3L

— Salvador Hernandez (@SalHernandez) February 14, 2018

p much another Columbine and yet nobody's shocked anymore cos this is reality now. fuck.

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The reason nothing is done is still because at least half of Americans are death cultists who exult in the gun murder of children

The average Republican worships murder and rape

Anyone who votes republican wants all black people dead, all children murdered, and all women to be raped and forced to raise the children if they can’t manage to die in childbirth

There is no other platform, American conservatives promote starvation, murder, and slavery

that all sounds v grounded and well thought out

#guncontrolnow has been trending on Twitter all night in the UK, never seen that before.

Shut the fuck up sleepingbag

Look, I've been spraying "Fuck the GOP NRA death culture" everywhere I can, today. So long as gun nuts still get laid and are employable, what difference do I make.

Gun nut isn't a protected class. I've lost touch with my own mother because her companion is a sociopathic gun nut. Were I in a position to do so, I'd fire those with NRA bumperstickers.

But then I spend time with family and friends who endlessly watch police procedurals, where every problem is solved by gun violence. This shit is pervasive, and cultural boycotts against it are long overdue.

feel like the question of leaving this country has turned into "when" rather than "if" for me. the toxicity of this country can almost make you feel sick on a daily basis

Weirdly two of my colleagues went to high school there, years apart from each other and 1400 miles from here.

The only way to stop the carnage is to create a coalition that aims for a repeal of the Second Amendment, for thanks to Heller and the late Nino the right to own a personal weapon, within certain limits, is constitutional. "Background checks" ain't gonna work, sorry.

The other option is to let sea level rise finish the job.

The only solution to mass death is masser death

The other option is to let sea level rise finish the job.

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:12 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

p sure this will be it

it was also amazing to me a few years ago how the stupid "violent video games" bullshit angle that the NRA took after Sandy Hook even infiltrated liberals, who started questioning the impacts of such games.

almost as if people haven't heard of the Alfred Bandura bobo doll experiments which would p clearly illustrate that people are much more impacted by ACTUAL REAL LIFE VIOLENCE HAPPENING IN FRONT OF THEM then playing some GTA shit for 3 hours.

This shit is pervasive, and cultural boycotts against it are long overdue.

i was thinking about this earlier, too. but who/what would be most effective to boycott?

boycott America

Buy legal guns and murder republican politicians

Just start murdering them

always wondered what woulda happen if Hinckley was a better shot

They’ll thank you for ending their miserable shit stAin existences on this benighted earth

Take me out to the ballgame take me out to the crowd...

Anyone who votes republican wants all black people dead, all children murdered, and all women to be raped and forced to raise the children if they can’t manage to die in childbirth

― direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:02 PM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I’m as angry and disgusted as you are but this is useless larry appleton-esque nonsense.

There’s no better explanation for the GOP than the worship of slavery and death

it's ridiculous to blame videogames for something like this, but there may be something to the idea that they're contributing to the normalization of extreme violence, and it's not just the pervasiveness of guns and shooing things. e.g., i've lost count of the number of games i've played recently that feature dead bodies swinging in the trees, looking like an aftermath of a lynching. it's always a signifier that the game world you're inhabiting it deeply fucked up, of course. but it's a little unsettling how the 10th time you see it in a game, you just think note it without thinking too much about it - "ah, another wrapped up dead body dangling from a tree branch. i wonder if i should shoot it down to see if it has an item", etc

of course, if somehow all violent videogames were banned (which would be weird and bad), i think it would barely make a dent in gun violence, if any, whereas banning all REAL GUNS would probably make a pretty massive fucking difference. but i do think that the disturbing images we surround ourselves with do have an effect, whether we recognize them or not. #uncoolconservativebeliefs

sorry for typos, as always

Don't give me ideas. I have an expert marksmanship badge from serving as a Army Reserve medic 27 years ago.

sanpaku do you have thoughts about who or what to boycott? not sure if you saw my post upthread.

for certain, violent video games aren't harmless. short-term effects on aggression/etc have been noted and I think it's always fair to examine the negative impacts of any media even while acknowledging it isn't a culprit for things like spree shootings.

we could probably benefit from having less games that glamorize war a la Call of Duty IMO

for sure. not to mention dozens of films

i'm talking literally dozens! i can't communicate coherently right now, sorry.

KM otm, there's no way this incessant first-person shooter gaming—hours on end, seven days a week, for years and years—does not inure kids (boys) to gun violence. And gun-control advocates need to acknowledge this w/o fearing it weakens the argument that guns kill people.

I have friends who are vehemently anti-gun who let their kids play these games and I just don't fucking get it. (TBF it's easy for me to say because I have two daughters w/ no interest in any of it, but I would like to think I would be able to hold the line)

I feel like gun-control advocates are probably more likely to concede that than pro-gun people will ever concede anything besides gun fetishism is to blame for mass shooting incidents.

which is the problem really, when one side is so immovably fixed on something but I'm not covering any new ground here so I will shut up

I'm not covering any new ground here so I will shut up

none of this is new, though. i'm sure all of these conversations have happened multiple times in this thread over the years, because the problems (and some of the solutions) are obvious and yet nothing is done.

I don't know about video games re: violence - we're a less violent society overall than at any point in modern history (and certainly since the spike in the '70s and '80s), the decline has come in concert with the rise of video games.

idk if there's really any notable linkage between actual acts of violence and playing of violent video games : https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/03/170308081057.htm

I just think it's foolish not to acknowledge that there are definitely some noted negative impacts with overexposure to them.

he says as he has often played them ^

mass shootings are way up since the early 1980s

mass shootings have increased while overall violence/homicide has decreased. something like we have more than a third of the planet's mass shootings since 1966 despite having just 5% of the world's population.

John Brown-style, the next one needs to happen at NRA HQ