anti-semitism iirc
― albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 15 February 2018 14:26 (six years ago) link
I have nothing against stephen fry that I can recall
― Simon H., Thursday, 15 February 2018 14:26 (six years ago) link
Wait, isn't he Jewish?
― pomenitul, Thursday, 15 February 2018 14:36 (six years ago) link
Who could we trust to interview Jordan Peterson in this damned country? Paul Mason? No.
― imago
ahhh! the french... champagne
― ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Thursday, 15 February 2018 14:38 (six years ago) link
Xp I think bg was joking that ppl don't like him because they are antisemitic
― scrüt (wins), Thursday, 15 February 2018 14:42 (six years ago) link
I think ppl dislike fry for smugness, overexposure & not being funny (this last arguably unfair as it hasn't been his job to be funny for decades), also he has said dumb shit things about women iirc
― scrüt (wins), Thursday, 15 February 2018 14:44 (six years ago) link
I don't think ppl dislike fry
― rum dmc (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 February 2018 14:45 (six years ago) link
and for being the darling of the centrist chattering class for like ever
― "oh no my cheds" man had dark to black packet (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 February 2018 14:45 (six years ago) link
Are there any homegrown comedians that UK ilxors can stand
― scrüt (wins), Thursday, 15 February 2018 14:46 (six years ago) link
Deems you don't think anybody dislikes fry?
― scrüt (wins), Thursday, 15 February 2018 14:47 (six years ago) link
history has vindicated the lex tbh
― Number None, Thursday, 15 February 2018 14:48 (six years ago) link
A COMEDIAN IS SOMEONE WHO TALKS IN EXCHANGE FOR APPROVING NOISES— Bernie Thoughts (@berniethoughts) February 14, 2018
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 15 February 2018 14:50 (six years ago) link
the lex was UK ILX’s favorite comedian until he tried out that routine about children in front of a bunch of uncles
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 15 February 2018 14:54 (six years ago) link
lol don't those uncles are still sore & fragile
― scrüt (wins), Thursday, 15 February 2018 14:56 (six years ago) link
I don't think everybody dislikes fry and I don't think everybody likes fry I don't think that the tendency in any one relevant subgroup is strong enough to be remarkable
UK ilxors prob hate him the same way lj was outraged about cheap orange juice being available to the lower orders that time
― rum dmc (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 February 2018 15:02 (six years ago) link
Lisa McGee, Sharon Horgan, Graham Linehan..
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 15 February 2018 15:04 (six years ago) link
Who, maybe, not much
― "oh no my cheds" man had dark to black packet (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 February 2018 15:05 (six years ago) link
Josie Long?
― kim jong deal (suzy), Thursday, 15 February 2018 15:06 (six years ago) link
stewart lee obv
― albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 15 February 2018 15:06 (six years ago) link
NV expertly cosplaying a begrudger there, foreigners take notes.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 15 February 2018 15:09 (six years ago) link
Linehan famously insufferable on twitter but I mean, twitter - can't front fr ted is classic
― scrüt (wins), Thursday, 15 February 2018 15:11 (six years ago) link
those three comedians all have something in common. Can't quite put my finger on it though...
― Number None, Thursday, 15 February 2018 15:14 (six years ago) link
channel 4 iirc
― albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 15 February 2018 15:16 (six years ago) link
Linehan is way past his sell by date.
Stewart Lee is too Guardian for my liking. No trust there.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 15 February 2018 15:21 (six years ago) link
Josie Long is good at twitter. Never seen her stand up tho'.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 15 February 2018 15:22 (six years ago) link
Does Linehan perform comedy as well as write it?
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 15 February 2018 15:23 (six years ago) link
He hasn't written it forever
― "oh no my cheds" man had dark to black packet (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 February 2018 15:23 (six years ago) link
Josie Long is still the most famous alumnus (alumna?) (oh you problematic Romans!) of the gifted and talented course I not only attended but now help to run - well, it's either her or a kid who ended up being one of the world's best beatboxers. I will outmatch them both one day obv when I write the text that defeats the entire alt-right
― imago, Thursday, 15 February 2018 16:06 (six years ago) link
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reeps_One
here he is
incredibly lovely kid btw
― imago, Thursday, 15 February 2018 16:09 (six years ago) link
fundamentalism doesn’t happen without men.
I like this.
can't spell fundamentalism without men iirc
And this.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Thursday, 15 February 2018 16:35 (six years ago) link
Father Ted is great but Linehan's sitcom work has been steadily declining since then and yeah, bad and terfy on twitter. I still love Seinfeld too but wouldn't list the dude as amongst my fav comedians.
Stewart Lee isn't really Guardian, he had Guardiandom thrust upon him. His entirely sensible reaction has been to record a Free Jazz album and announce his retirement.
Josie Long is a an angel and a hero, I miss her Camden comedy nights something fierce. But she is also perky and optimistic, so it shouldn't surprise anyone you can find lots of hate for her in the ILX archives.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 15 February 2018 16:40 (six years ago) link
Frankie Boyle? Particularly after he got too woke to compare Becky Alsington’s face to a spoon any more.
― kim jong deal (suzy), Thursday, 15 February 2018 16:44 (six years ago) link
The proverbial stopped clock iirc
― "oh no my cheds" man had dark to black packet (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 February 2018 16:45 (six years ago) link
Didn't know lee had announced his retirement!
― scrüt (wins), Thursday, 15 February 2018 16:57 (six years ago) link
He calls it a break not a retirement - but I'm still guessin' those Southbank tickets will seel out fast. Can totally understand it tho - someone who's made a living of being contrarian and abrasive gets to the stage where they're almost universally acclaimed, it's gotta fuck up the shtick to some extent.
http://www.chortle.co.uk/news/2018/01/31/39027/stewart_lee_to_take_a_break_from_stand-up
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 15 February 2018 21:00 (six years ago) link
Well also he can maybe afford not to do it, and who wants to be doing standup in their 50s
― scrüt (wins), Thursday, 15 February 2018 21:15 (six years ago) link
Also run out of material about kids' TV and driving on the motorway
― "oh no my cheds" man had dark to black packet (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 February 2018 21:21 (six years ago) link
the alt-right
― scrüt (wins), Thursday, 15 February 2018 21:23 (six years ago) link
shocking, I know
So Jordan Peterson admits that he has been accused "three times during (his) career of sexual impropriety."That explains a lot of his views & behaviour. pic.twitter.com/l9IsYHgAyg— Sacha Saeen (@_Saeen_) February 17, 2018
― Simon H., Sunday, 18 February 2018 00:43 (six years ago) link
Good news everyone
Slavoj Žižek says that Jordan Peterson is a conspiracy theorist and accepts his invitation to debate, choosing New York City in October. https://t.co/pDhg1c7Ec0— Jack Smith IV (@JackSmithIV) February 19, 2018
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 19 February 2018 19:29 (six years ago) link
Hell yes
― flappy bird, Monday, 19 February 2018 19:30 (six years ago) link
stoked for the madness(what are the chances peterson is gonna end up disgraced and abandoned by october tho)
― NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 19 February 2018 19:31 (six years ago) link
Totally disagree with ppl itt saying that Peterson isn't worth serious critique or debate. that kind of intellectual/cultural elitism only emboldens Peterson and makes his audience grow. glad that Zizek is going to debate him. I thought his column about the lack of critique from the left and the lack of a defense beyond a patronizing "it's self evident" from the left was otm.
― flappy bird, Monday, 19 February 2018 19:33 (six years ago) link
peterson isn't worth of debate and it's not due to elitism - he's a tenured professor at U of T and now best-selling author, he is the elite - it's that his ideas aren't worth engaging with and it's best not to give him the oxygen of publicity
― khat person (jim in vancouver), Monday, 19 February 2018 19:38 (six years ago) link
zizek is an entertainer and troll as much as a thinker so it makes sense for his brand
whatever you think of his ideas, he needs to be engaged because of the audience he's garnering: very impressionable and seemingly more open-minded to criticism than fans of other explicitly alt right figures. Zizek is the perfect person to do it precisely for the reasons you stated
― flappy bird, Monday, 19 February 2018 19:41 (six years ago) link
if they debate and zizek hands his ass to him, it will do nothing to dissuade or deter peterson's fans who will maintain that he crushed zizek with logic
― khat person (jim in vancouver), Monday, 19 February 2018 19:43 (six years ago) link
flappy bird otm.
― pomenitul, Monday, 19 February 2018 19:48 (six years ago) link
this is gonna be awesome but anyone who thinks zizek is going to debunk jp or whatever doesn't understand zizek
― Mordy, Monday, 19 February 2018 19:48 (six years ago) link
― khat person (jim in vancouver), Monday, February 19, 2018 2:43 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
some, maybe. but this is fatalistic and again, dangerously dismissive. he needs to be interrogated, even if it starts with Zizek. certainly an improvement over some hapless cable tv host or sam fuckin harris
― flappy bird, Monday, 19 February 2018 19:50 (six years ago) link