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there's an opt-out after 5 years. maybe he'll have a career year in 2022 and someone will spare the padres the rest of it? still

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Sunday, 18 February 2018 04:49 (six years ago) link

dave cameron just joined the padres as well...wait, wtf?

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Sunday, 18 February 2018 04:51 (six years ago) link

apparently it's $144 million in total, front-loaded at $20 million for the first 5 years, $13 million for last three (plus a $5 million signing bonus)

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Sunday, 18 February 2018 05:00 (six years ago) link

i like hos more than most seem to but thats still a lot/too much

johnny crunch, Sunday, 18 February 2018 05:23 (six years ago) link

Looks like free agency is working just fine after all.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 18 February 2018 05:24 (six years ago) link

We couldn't possibly have done away with the sacred institution of Boras clients getting overpaid now could we.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 18 February 2018 05:26 (six years ago) link

OF COURSE the BoSox get J.D. Martinez. Man I fucking hate baseball so much.

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 02:01 (six years ago) link

CJ Cron to TB btw

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 03:06 (six years ago) link

bryce brentz to the pirates lol

mookieproof, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 18:53 (six years ago) link

contract the fuckin rays

mookieproof, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 00:23 (six years ago) link

kinda think the rays have earned the benefit of the doubt on these sorts of things. dickerson was bad in the second half last year & souza is a good player but almost certainly coming off a career year... i like the odorizzi trade less but their rotation still has talent. anyway them rebuilding a bit prob makes sense given what the red sox and yankees are looking like this year.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 21 February 2018 00:47 (six years ago) link

the rays have earned the benefit of the doubt on these sorts of things.

what good moves have they made since friedman left

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 00:53 (six years ago) link

i thought the matt moore and logan forsythe trades were pretty good, they beat the rockies in the dickerson/mcgee trade, logan morrison and brad miller were good pick ups off the scrap heap... i dunno they're not perfect but their track record on these sorts of moves means that they'll prob end up looking okay. i don't think any of these trades makes them significantly worse.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 21 February 2018 02:29 (six years ago) link

the one trade they really bombed was the first souza trade where between they basically chose souza over wil myers and trea turner but that was only a few months after friedman left so i'll give them a bit of a pass

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 21 February 2018 02:31 (six years ago) link

from *before* the souza deal: The Rays are a disgrace to baseball

as for the prospects they got, banda was supposed to be good but was brutal last year (at least he's left-handed). solak did nicely at high-a but is a second baseman so who even cares

might as well trade kiermaier too at this point

rebuilding a bit prob makes sense given what the red sox and yankees are looking like this year.

they won 80 games last year! maybe they should have added a player or two and made a go of it? instead, they will continue to endlessly rebuild forever

mookieproof, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 03:24 (six years ago) link

to be fair the pirates traded away their best player and best starter and the only signing they've made so far with their newfound salary flexibility is . . . daniel nava on a minor league deal.

so it's not like the rays are alone. but it also sucks

mookieproof, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 03:30 (six years ago) link

the rays have gotten younger in all of these moves but with players who are still major leaguers or close to it... they prob have more downside now but maybe more upside if you take into account their young pitching. i'd say they've remained competitive while possibly better positioning themselves for a few years from now.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 21 February 2018 03:42 (six years ago) link

i basically agree with this post

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-rays-just-trimmed-payroll-without-getting-worse/

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 21 February 2018 03:43 (six years ago) link

they're still gonna need their top prospects to turn into stars but they're doing typical pretty smart small time rays stuff to me

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 21 February 2018 03:45 (six years ago) link

btw the rays should absolutely be moved to another city

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 21 February 2018 03:45 (six years ago) link

And that city is Montreal.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 14:32 (six years ago) link

as a mtler i love that idea but we will let them down too. this city couldn't even support a major junior hockey team (or mlb last time lol) because it's not the montreal canadiens. and we don't have the dosh to build a stadium for a for-profit company as a lovely lil gift. i'd be here for it tho, and i'd be buying a share in a couple of season tickets in a heartbeat. even if that's the team they rolled out :/

flippy bard (Will M.), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 15:54 (six years ago) link

Rays just made an alleged local deal? no?

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 16:18 (six years ago) link

Brooklyn needs a team, and if the Wilpons don't sell/die soon I fully support one.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 16:18 (six years ago) link

- two years after receiving a $15.8m qualifying offer from houston, colby rasmus has a minor league deal with the orioles

- astros' forrest whitley, who is probably among the top three pitching prospects in the minors, suspended 50 games for a curiously undisclosed drug violation

mookieproof, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 16:50 (six years ago) link

wonder if it's an alex reyes violation

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 16:51 (six years ago) link

50 games is typical for a second alex reyes violation (first gets a warning) but the announcements are generally very formulaic when mentioning the details and this one has none so idk

mookieproof, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 16:58 (six years ago) link

colby rasmus has a minor league deal with the orioles

i continue to wear my 2012 rasmus jersey with pride. he's a weird dude

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 18:43 (six years ago) link

2011, that is

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 18:44 (six years ago) link

@Travis_Sawchik

The crowd predicted 2/$24m for Gomez (Boras client) ... he gets 1y/$4m

(with tampa)

mookieproof, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 19:04 (six years ago) link

yeah please no baseball in Montreal. the city has a long list of other priorities.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 23:39 (six years ago) link

corey dickerson to the pirates

mookieproof, Thursday, 22 February 2018 18:25 (six years ago) link

liriano to tigers (1 year, $4 million)

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Sunday, 25 February 2018 17:50 (six years ago) link

Logan Morrison to Twins

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 26 February 2018 16:14 (six years ago) link

Alex Rodriguez has returned to the Yankees as a special advisor, joining Reggie Jackson, Hideki Matsui and Nick Swisher.

— Bryan Hoch (@BryanHoch) February 25, 2018

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:41 (six years ago) link

? is he doing that in addition to broadcasting? seemed like he had quickly found his niche there

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:43 (six years ago) link

A source said Rodriguez's advisory role won't conflict with his television duties.

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/22575840/alex-rodriguez-remains-new-york-yankees-special-adviser

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:35 (six years ago) link

mike napoli has a minor league deal with the indians

-0.5 WAR last year despite hitting 29 homers

mookieproof, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 15:50 (six years ago) link

tim lincecum to the rangers, supposedly

mookieproof, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:10 (six years ago) link

lucas duda to the royals for $3.5m . . . cheap!

mookieproof, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 15:27 (six years ago) link

not as cheap as Adrian Gonzalez, apparently

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 17:02 (six years ago) link

Duda, 32, has a career 121 wRC+. The 28-year-old Hosmer? 111. Duda produced 0.1 fWAR less than Hosmer since 2014. However, each signed much different contracts this offseason

— Travis Sawchik (@Travis_Sawchik) February 28, 2018

mookieproof, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 18:21 (six years ago) link

paul dejong signs 6-year extension

FanRag’s Jon Heyman tweets that DeJong will be guaranteed $26MM over a six-year term. Goold adds that the deal has a pair of club options and can max out at $51.5MM over an eight-year term. The $26MM guarantee on the extension breaks Tim Anderson’s record (six years, $25MM) for the largest sum ever guaranteed to a player with less than one full year of Major League service time (MLBTR Extension Tracker link).

locking up the age 25-30 seasons is great, and i have no doubt that he'll generate surplus WAR compared to his contract. his ceiling is kind of limited by his (til now) inability to take a walk, though.

Lester had a chance to try out the new approach during Sunday's spring training game against the Diamondbacks, when he fielded a comebacker off the bat of Arizona's David Peralta.

But after initially bobbling the ball, Lester bounced a throw past Cubs first baseman Efren Navarro for a two-base throwing error. Lester said after the game that he has been working on the throws with regular first baseman Anthony Rizzo and that Navarro, who is with the Cubs on a minor league deal, was not expecting the unorthodox method.

"I feel bad for the guy today," Lester said. "He had no idea what's going on. He's never been a part of it. With Rizz, probably the surprise wouldn't have been there."

omar little, Monday, 5 March 2018 20:09 (six years ago) link

imo they should let him use a giant slingshot

na (NA), Monday, 5 March 2018 20:18 (six years ago) link

why not just fucking roll it

na (NA), Monday, 5 March 2018 20:51 (six years ago) link

The yips is some pretty weird stuff. The 30 for 30 that goes into that with Mackie Sasser is really interesting.

earlnash, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 01:47 (six years ago) link


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