Black Panther (2018), dir Ryan Coogler

having said that it would have been fun to have shuri pilot the plane instead and send ross up to the surface to get turned into jam by a heavily-armoured attack rhino

i just hope they go into space in the next film and take that afro-futurism to the next level.

Shuri for Nova Prime

i'll bet they could make their entire nation a spaceship...just sayin'....

Re: the ost, it’s very cohesive and makes a great album to listen to.
And « All the Stars » has a classic 80s soundtrack main song feel. Love it. And I haven’t even seen the film !

it was a little disappointing that they didn't manage to fit in a few more tracks from the score, but as mentioned upthread, the score was plenty evocative. Was nice to catch a bit of Mozzy in that final Oakland scene though

I had a moment of fridge logic about a half hour after leaving the movie when I realized the "tell me a story" bit at the very beginning was Eric and his father, not T'Challa and T'Chaka. Also that whole opening was fucking cool as hell, as good as if not better than the similar bit in Wonder Woman.

Oh that is a good point.

Also: piloting a spaceship by meditating - awesome or completely awesome?

I thought that was more "meditating while the autopilot is on"

The meditation-as-rocketship idea has strong Afrofuturist sanction:
https://cdn.albumoftheyear.org/album/20906-om.jpg

(ok lol i can't find my copy of more brilliant than the sun to back this claim up)

I love how they refer to the guards at the start as "these two Grace Jones looking chicks."

I couldn't not think of Willie D saying "YOU REMIND ME OF THAT MONKEY LOOKIN BITCH GRACE JONES"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sWfk1H6ZpE

I wonder if the Coog is a Geto Boys fan considering he got a Too $hort song and two Public Enemy posters in here, much respect

Loved the music in this btw! Baaba Maal!

Would have been neat if they got the Bomb Squad to do some of the score, but the music in this was a nice change of pace, especially for a Marvel movie.

Yeah, however, you gotta remember that the lefty political stuff of Huey P Newton poster/Public Enemy poster represented the bad guy(!!) and the more personal Kendrick stuff represented the good guy, so it makes sense that it was Sounwave

It's kind of wild to think about how the Killmonger ethos of "seize the means of production and weaponize the oppressed" would have fit right in on ca. 1992 Bay Area rap records like 2Pac, Paris and the Coup; and now something being universally praised as one of the most radical movies of all time treats that like an throwback for a bad guy's origin story

Dammmnnnnnn

well in the nineties, the oppressed hadn't weaponized our own passenger planes against us, and we hadn't responded by occupying two countries on bullshit assumptions and pretense

I didn't get that. T'Chaka's brother who was embedded in Oakland as a spy was violating their non-intervention rules by trying to introduce Wakandan technology, even hiring someone to break into Wakanda to steal it at great cost to his own people. It wasn't that they weren't willing to help people outside Wakanda, it was they refused to tip their hand and provide material resources.

Would have been neat if they got the Bomb Squad to do some of the score,

the Bomb Squad split up 25 years ago (almost 28 for the proper lineup!) so nah

I know, I meant reunited in some regard.

Fun observations: Killmonger's "Hey, Auntie" brought the house down in my theater, as did Danai Gurira taking off her wig and throwing it in a guy's face.

oh yeah that was a great line

my favourite gurira moment was her sly little grin and wink to shuri when t’challa arrives in wakanda for the first time - just a lovely little character touch that perfectly punctures the cool detachment we’ve seen from her up to that point

I know, I meant reunited in some regard.

yeah but my point is that they'd suck now if they did

Biggest reactions in my theater were to "hey, auntie," and maybe Killmonger going "'S'up." Driest joke maybe the "sneakers" joke. Lil' sis got a lot of good lines. No one laughed at the soundcloud/mixtape joke.

yeah, all the WHAT ARE THOSE MY SOUNDCLOUD MIXTAPE I MADE IT RAIN jokes were super cringey and I was thinking, "What do these guys think we're teenagers or something?" and then it's like ... "Oh... oh yeah."

i did enjoy ‘what are thoooooose’ because i still miss vine

but those jokes in the hands of the white dudes were maybe intentionally cringey?

they should have had a button on the hologram ship that just said NUT

xpost that is a very generous reading imo, but not out of the realm of possibility

veg otm

and as someone said upthread klaw’s whole thing is stealing black culture literally and figuratively, it kinda makes sense he’d have a mixtape and be embarrassingly enthusiastic about it

it still doesn't explain away "what are thoooooooose"

"what are those" was the biggest laugh by far when I saw it

‘what are those’ might not age well tbf but it made me lol, suck it whiney

when the joke doesn't age well but i keep succin

what are those may have a short shelf life (or not!) but it got a big reaction both times i saw it and it gets Shuri's character across about as efficiently as i can imagine.

Black Panther was a fine movie but its politics were a bit iffy. wouldve been way better if at the end the Black Panther turned to the camera & said "i am communist now" & then specified hes the exact kind of communist i am

— TORMABLAIEFDHZSJKLNBDSFEJKL PICKASDFJKLFDSNMKOFDSJ (@Tormny_Pickeals) February 19, 2018

(I haven't seen the movie. I don't watch superhero movies anymore. The last one I saw was Captain America: Winter Soldier.)

lol

haha

i can't imagine a less fun crowd to follow than lefty film twitter

For years now I've envied the people who get to do production and costume design for epic films of this sort. This movie just set some pretty high standards in those departments.

there was a piece on The Cut arguing that this should be nominated for oscars in costume design and makeup & hairstyling

wau what an achievement

Holy hell: #BlackPanther with the 5th biggest opening of all time pic.twitter.com/UjIBFJmCdt

— Chris Scott (@iamchrisscott) February 19, 2018

lol

#s 3 and 4 are giving me brain palpitations.

"WHAT ARE THOSE" absolutely killed in my theater.

the costume design was so beautiful i can’t contain my love for the textures & fabrics & cuts & aaaaah

this interview with Ruth E Carter is great
https://www.theringer.com/movies/2018/2/15/17012262/black-panther-costume-design-ruth-e-carter-interview-ryan-coogler-michael-b-jordan

Okoye's gown during the car chase
Shuri recording T'Challa kicking the armor for science reasons
Shuri and T'Challa's handshake
"... I'm going to feed you to my kids... lol jks we're vegtarians"

Lots of great performances, I've been thinking a lot about Winston Duke as M'Baku, the way he subverted expectations with that line in particular.