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Robert Wyllie, Pete Buckley

momentarily read this as Pete Wylie and didn't really question it

thirst trap your hare (DJ Mencap), Friday, 23 February 2018 10:59 (one year ago) Permalink

And who are they anyway?

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Friday, 23 February 2018 11:01 (one year ago) Permalink

top google result for robert wyllie is chief of medical operations at a clinic in cleveland, ohio and the top result for pete buckley is an expert in 'financing, leasing, sales and complex structured transactions involving aircraft (fixed wing and rotary), vessels and other transportation assets'

so either the net for grumpy old men was cast much wider than i'd have expected or we may never know who the trv wyllie and buckley were

NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 23 February 2018 11:10 (one year ago) Permalink

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/Robert_Crichton_Wyllie.jpg

Robert Crichton Wyllie (October 13, 1798 – October 19, 1865) was a Scottish physician and businessman. He also served two decades as Minister of Foreign Affairs in the Kingdom of Hawaii.

Maconie Youth (NickB), Friday, 23 February 2018 11:14 (one year ago) Permalink

counts as an old man for sure, looks pretty chipper tho

NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 23 February 2018 11:16 (one year ago) Permalink

this was around the time that Ian McCulloch used to appear as a panelist on The Wright Stuff, so Pete Wylie doesn't seem that implausible

soref, Friday, 23 February 2018 11:17 (one year ago) Permalink

I don't think even the producers of Grumpy Old Men knew wtf Robert Wyllie was

calzino, Friday, 23 February 2018 11:22 (one year ago) Permalink

When you type "Pete Buckley grumpy..." into GS, "cat" is the first word that comes. So wtf he is, he didn't quite make his bones with that show.

calzino, Friday, 23 February 2018 11:26 (one year ago) Permalink

two months pass...

classy

(1) With the Spectator publishing an article about how great the Wehrmacht were on D-Day, what else have they been up to ? pic.twitter.com/6zuxRniqIJ

— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) May 17, 2018

Neil S, Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:38 (one year ago) Permalink

how is taki still alive

martin short's interiors (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:40 (one year ago) Permalink

blood of virgins, 6 bottles of vintage champagne a day

Neil S, Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:41 (one year ago) Permalink

taki was ahead of the alt-right curve by a good decade tbfttl

imago, Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:42 (one year ago) Permalink

aye, Werhmacht were a cracking bunch of lads - just don't mention all the civilian massacres and those lovely Stalags they built so captured Red Army could get a sun tan or freeze to death whilst they cannibalised each other!

calzino, Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:46 (one year ago) Permalink

Taki made A A Gill look like a lefty at The Sunday Times in the 90's.

calzino, Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:47 (one year ago) Permalink

For my sins I can remember his columns were a mixture of obnoxious macho bravado and name dropping upper class elite ppl, a class act for sure!

calzino, Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:04 (one year ago) Permalink

The Wehrmacht had the advantage of plenty of time to construct all the defenses they could think of against an amphibious assault, which is considered the most difficult of all military operations to execute. And they failed.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:10 (one year ago) Permalink

some of the brickies working on the Atlantic Wall were getting paid more than doctors and brain surgeons in the Reich, that was probably the only bit of Socialism in NS!

calzino, Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:24 (one year ago) Permalink

taki was ahead of the alt-right curve by a good decade tbfttl

― imago, Thursday, May 17, 2018 7:42 PM (twenty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the cover of Taki's 1991 prison memoir (three months in HM Prison Pentonville for cocaine possession) is like some horrifying prophecy of Milo Yiannopoulos two decades ahead of time

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51TI63K6OuL._SX328_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

soref, Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:25 (one year ago) Permalink

Even by Spectator standards, Taki is massively racist.

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:05 (one year ago) Permalink

I can half remember some quote where he is referring to Puerto Ricans as "dusky, squat and ugly" and this was before the brexit-era Times got their special circumstances racist card, this was in the 90's!

calzino, Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:50 (one year ago) Permalink

xxp lol uncanny!

Neil S, Friday, 18 May 2018 07:41 (one year ago) Permalink

taki was ahead of the alt-right curve by a good decade tbfttl

He's an old-school capital-F Fascist but his magazine was hugely important in laying a lot of the foundations for the McInnes / Spencer alt-right stuff.

Obviously, being rich and eccentric means he gets a pass as a 'character' in the British press.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 18 May 2018 07:59 (one year ago) Permalink

six months pass...

Hugo Rifkind says online 'outrage engine' makes papers swerve difficult subjects to 'avoid enraging parts of their readership'https://t.co/NjlLMMI33c pic.twitter.com/dkoSOpRljw

— Press Gazette (@pressgazette) November 22, 2018


🤔

gyac, Thursday, 22 November 2018 14:07 (six months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

This is a good expose on our old friends at Spiked: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/07/us-billionaires-hard-right-britain-spiked-magazine-charles-david-koch-foundation

Neil S, Friday, 7 December 2018 09:21 (six months ago) Permalink

It's pretty sad that they're not even Trots manqué curdled to misanthropy but just old-fashioned posho somethings-in-the-media grubbing for PR work for Monty fucking Burns

biliares now living will never buey (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 December 2018 12:37 (six months ago) Permalink

[mark can correct whichever corner of post-Leninism they actually grew out of here]

biliares now living will never buey (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 December 2018 12:39 (six months ago) Permalink

Monbiot does nice work in exposing their um "selective" reading of Trotsky

Neil S, Friday, 7 December 2018 12:41 (six months ago) Permalink

I like that he seems to have these mealy-mouthed fuckers squirming

biliares now living will never buey (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 December 2018 12:44 (six months ago) Permalink

Brendan O'Neill looks like a lovechild Frasier would deny

Bênoit Balls (stevie), Friday, 7 December 2018 14:26 (six months ago) Permalink

That photo of Frank Furedi in the Guardian article, I lived just off that corridor for a year. It's pretty fucking weird to see it crop up nearly two decades later in an article about an international right-wing conspiracy.

Matt DC, Friday, 7 December 2018 14:46 (six months ago) Permalink

There's a lot more detail here: https://www.desmog.co.uk/2018/12/04/spiked-lm-dark-money-koch-brothers

Matt DC, Friday, 7 December 2018 15:42 (six months ago) Permalink

I'd heard of Claire Fox but not Fiana Fox OBE.

calzino, Friday, 7 December 2018 15:46 (six months ago) Permalink

Fiona

calzino, Friday, 7 December 2018 15:47 (six months ago) Permalink

that map of the LM network seems to be missing some much loved ILM indie-rockers:P

calzino, Friday, 7 December 2018 15:48 (six months ago) Permalink

LEAVE GAZ ALONE

I Accept the Word of Santa (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 December 2018 16:06 (six months ago) Permalink

I think Gaz might to need to look at more lucrative options than becoming a regular Spiked contributor, my cousin has a shit hot wedding band company called Rock My Reception!

calzino, Friday, 7 December 2018 16:12 (six months ago) Permalink

Which is more lucrative, writing puff pieces for Nazi businessmen or coming third in the Mercury Music Prize every other year?

I Accept the Word of Santa (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 December 2018 16:14 (six months ago) Permalink

they're a mid-70s offshoot of IS (which underwent many splits at that time: what was left evolved into the swp): the revolutionary communist party then split from the revolutionary communist group* over tactics relating to anti-apartheid (ribald voice from the back: "yes, furedi was pro! etc etc haw haw") -- its organ "living marxism" (so-called bcz everyone else's was declared dead) was active until the mid-90s, when a journalist they libelled during the yugoslav civil war sued it to extinction. they were rebooting at this time as radical libtertarian cyberlefties anyway -- they ran and made a lot of cash from the early internet cafe cyberia -- and (presumably cynically) adapted to harmonise with the tech flavour of libertarianism instead. even in the early 90s the other trot orgs mocked them as a yuppie party

*according to wikipedia, the RCG's paper fight racism! fight imperialism! is still running for nearly 40 years, tho it's a LOOOOONG time since i've seen a copy on sale. rumours that Spiked! is abt to be renamed don't fight racism! don't fight imperialism! are too funny to ignore

mark s, Friday, 7 December 2018 16:34 (six months ago) Permalink

a couple of them (as students) wrote for me at the wire! but both seem -- via the magick of goggle -- to have evolved into entirely ordinary leftish academics no longer tangled in such garbage

mark s, Friday, 7 December 2018 16:36 (six months ago) Permalink

Glad somebody had a happy ending

I Accept the Word of Santa (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 December 2018 16:38 (six months ago) Permalink

most of that is in monbiot's article now i read it -- this line ("In 1974, the International Socialists split after a dispute over arithmetic in Volume 3 of Das Kapital") is amusing but misleading. all spilts in the IS were abt personality clashes among the leadership, and every single splinter-sect coalesced round a different egomaniac

mark s, Friday, 7 December 2018 16:41 (six months ago) Permalink

here's the section on the IS/RCG/RCP split in john sullivan's classic 1988 essay on fissiparous UK trots (very dated, the whole thing is still worth reading)*:
https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/critiques/sullivan/pub-7rcgrcp.html

*no one was rightwing at this point, tho there were likely a great many mutual accusations to this effect all the same

mark s, Friday, 7 December 2018 17:24 (six months ago) Permalink

It's no Fools and Horses

I Accept the Word of Santa (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 December 2018 17:27 (six months ago) Permalink

Brendan O'Neill looks like a lovechild Frasier would deny

Looool perfect.

The Village Defibrillator (Mr Andy M), Friday, 7 December 2018 17:37 (six months ago) Permalink

I feel like this sort of forensic takedown of what Spiked are about and how they function (which I know Monbiot has been doing for a while now) is a better way to deal with them than the approach I see from a lot of leftist commentators on Twitter, where it always seems to be 'Oh no, look at this new horrible thing Brendan O'Neill has written' with 50 retweets - which just gives them what they want I think?

The Village Defibrillator (Mr Andy M), Friday, 7 December 2018 17:40 (six months ago) Permalink

Of course it does, like when fuckwits kept giving Katie Hopkins the attention she craved

I Accept the Word of Santa (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 December 2018 17:44 (six months ago) Permalink

This whole thing is so transparent, the endless feedback loop of wankers DESTROYING other wankers. I notice I haven't seen many of my Canary-following friends bigging up Jonathan Pieface lately, but it was obvious from day one what an unfunny useless arsehole he was

I Accept the Word of Santa (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 December 2018 17:48 (six months ago) Permalink

I heard this typically unfunny cunt on R4 last week called Geoff Norcott. His unique schtick was that he's a comedian and a Tory voter like as if ho ho ho what an absolute enigma, a comedian whose politics absolutely suck shit.

calzino, Friday, 7 December 2018 17:55 (six months ago) Permalink

I feel like this sort of forensic takedown of what Spiked are about and how they function (which I know Monbiot has been doing for a while now) is a better way to deal with them than the approach I see from a lot of leftist commentators on Twitter, where it always seems to be 'Oh no, look at this new horrible thing Brendan O'Neill has written' with 50 retweets - which just gives them what they want I think?

I'm not sure they need retweets when one of them is on national TV or radio almost literally every day.

Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Friday, 7 December 2018 18:31 (six months ago) Permalink


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