the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

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Brexit: a play in two acts:

Today @Telegraph has a story on its front page saying the UK may ban plastic straws, with Michael Gove saying Brexit will make this easier.

It also has a leader inside complaining that the EU wants to ban plastic straws pic.twitter.com/lQ4cmIbkts

— William Wright (@Williamw1) February 23, 2018

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 23 February 2018 14:32 (six years ago) link

I regret to inform you that Activate are at it again

Since Stormzy is such a big fan of socialism... when will he start leading by example and redistribute his own wealth?

— Activate UK (@ActivateBritain) February 23, 2018

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Friday, 23 February 2018 14:33 (six years ago) link

should probably go in the Trenchant thread TBH

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Friday, 23 February 2018 14:33 (six years ago) link

They're really, really poor at twitterlife aren't they/

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 23 February 2018 14:36 (six years ago) link

The Scottish parliament committed, two weeks ago, to ban plastic straws by the end of 2019. As far as I know Scotland is still in the EU.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Friday, 23 February 2018 14:39 (six years ago) link

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xpost

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 23 February 2018 14:40 (six years ago) link

Leading Britain's Crusade

Thoroughly enjoyed chatting to @NickFerrariLBC this morning on @LBC

Do you agree that we should be able to privately express offensive views? pic.twitter.com/kiqsIU7dfg

— Jo Marney (@Jo_Marney) February 23, 2018

nashwan, Friday, 23 February 2018 14:52 (six years ago) link

Lovely stainless-steel straws come with a natty brush to polish their innards

think i can guess how the Telegraph leader writer spends his lunchtime

smashong pumpgong (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 February 2018 14:53 (six years ago) link

lovely to see Activate UK rocking the same argument that Tressell ripped to bits 100+ years ago

smashong pumpgong (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 February 2018 14:54 (six years ago) link

Define "Privately"

Mark G, Friday, 23 February 2018 14:56 (six years ago) link

Because it seems to involve posting said opinion on public areas without putting yr name on it.

Mark G, Friday, 23 February 2018 14:57 (six years ago) link

Ugh, don’t know what’s worse: racist bitch Jo Marney or the sofa telly guest bookers giving her a platform (and appearance fees).

kim jong deal (suzy), Friday, 23 February 2018 20:47 (six years ago) link

it’s the guest bookers

NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 23 February 2018 20:49 (six years ago) link

Yeah that was pretty straightforward tbh, those thousands of racists who'd do it for free

smashong pumpgong (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 February 2018 20:56 (six years ago) link

there's

smashong pumpgong (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 February 2018 20:56 (six years ago) link

Clear pattern. Seen it with Eddie Izzard, Anne Black and now Iain McNicol. Doesn't matter how long you've been in the Labour movement, or what you've contributed. If you're not a Corbynite, and didn't come in with Corbyn, you're nothing. Year Zero strategy.

— (((Dan Hodges))) (@DPJHodges) February 23, 2018

lol!

calzino, Friday, 23 February 2018 22:00 (six years ago) link

he also tweeted some centrists said McNicol was a red line that wouldn't be crossed, oh dear!

calzino, Friday, 23 February 2018 22:01 (six years ago) link

Maybe Eddie Izzard wasn't the best example to use there, Dan.

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Friday, 23 February 2018 22:13 (six years ago) link

lol Conservative spokesman criticizing the Labour party's internal divisions

smashong pumpgong (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 February 2018 22:33 (six years ago) link

tbf on party democracy: a lot of members voted for Izzard, just not enough to get on him on the NEC. And it didn't happen because of sinister cultism or mind control, lots of people just can't stand the fucker and consider his politics way suspect.

calzino, Friday, 23 February 2018 22:39 (six years ago) link

that probably sounds like sinister cultism tbh, but I maintain that Izzard is a psychopath - I mean is it anyone's fault that he spent over a decade brown-nosing Blair and Brown and now has only 2 failed NEC elections to show for it.

calzino, Friday, 23 February 2018 22:56 (six years ago) link

Fuck the lot of 'em, don't recall any concern-trolling about longstanding Labour members when they tried to kick Corbyn out of the leadership

smashong pumpgong (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 February 2018 22:58 (six years ago) link

I was just thinking back to that moment when I heard the extremely condescending Corbyn profile on R4 when M Beckett became his unintentional kingmaker. I'm sure there was some mention of his brother, but it was academic because this was going be a 2 way race between Kendall and Cooper (some obscure law firm now operating above a shop in Wakefield).

calzino, Friday, 23 February 2018 23:16 (six years ago) link

fucking quality looking leftback there, at least in them days you got a week's notice if a player was going to turn around.

calzino, Saturday, 24 February 2018 00:06 (six years ago) link

Iain McNichol also responsible for disenfranchising thousands of Labour members and supporters around both leadership elections, for egregious crimes such as liking Green Party tweets, but also keeping all the money those people paid in. Dick.

kim jong deal (suzy), Saturday, 24 February 2018 00:35 (six years ago) link

oh yeah, what an absolute tool. RIP!

calzino, Saturday, 24 February 2018 00:36 (six years ago) link

i actually quite like some of matt's cartoons and also the comical little people he draws* HOWEVER this is also funny, as is the pompous response it has stirred up

https://twitter.com/horton_official/status/967159517556375553

*caveat: i will literally laugh at anything

mark s, Saturday, 24 February 2018 12:55 (six years ago) link

oops sorry:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWwKcipX4AEhWME.jpg

mark s, Saturday, 24 February 2018 12:56 (six years ago) link

no sad upper normie me:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWywdYWX0AAVhp6.jpg:large

mark s, Saturday, 24 February 2018 12:59 (six years ago) link

I'm not what's going on here?

Heavy Messages (jed_), Saturday, 24 February 2018 13:05 (six years ago) link

haha sorry: the telegraph's cartoonist "matt" is celebrating 30 years of being the telegraph's cartoonist "matt", and everyone (all politicians) were invited, most of them sending on a pro forma quote abt the high value of such cartooning etc etc

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2017/08/30/3108-MATT-GALLERY-WEB-P1-small_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqqVzuuqpFlyLIwiB6NTmJwfSVWeZ_vEN7c6bHu2jJnT8.png

mark s, Saturday, 24 February 2018 13:12 (six years ago) link

but declining an invitation because a cartoonist isn't funny enough is pretty funny.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Saturday, 24 February 2018 13:14 (six years ago) link

exactly :)

mark s, Saturday, 24 February 2018 13:15 (six years ago) link

ok, catching up!

Heavy Messages (jed_), Saturday, 24 February 2018 13:15 (six years ago) link

I agree - it's a good way to reject the cartoonist. It's good not to join in with the establishment crowd.

The 'upper normie' person seems a scumbag. I am worried about his new idiom.

I have quite often enjoyed wine.

the pinefox, Saturday, 24 February 2018 13:27 (six years ago) link

I've even enjoyed it while listening to Radiohead

the salacious inaudible (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 24 February 2018 13:29 (six years ago) link

"30 years of genius"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWzGru4U0AEnXx5.jpg

soref, Saturday, 24 February 2018 13:31 (six years ago) link

he is the grandson of v.s.pritchett

mark s, Saturday, 24 February 2018 13:34 (six years ago) link

the Sam Bowman thing is a "joke" shurely?

smashong pumpgong (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 February 2018 14:09 (six years ago) link

Pouring one out for Matt and Ben Bradley.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 24 February 2018 14:17 (six years ago) link

Ian McNicol too. A good 24 hours for JC.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 24 February 2018 14:19 (six years ago) link

tbh i can't tell

Well fundamentally an upper normie is someone who ostentatiously doesn't like stuff that normies like (which is often mass popular culture), and Matt is stuff that normies like.

— Sam Bowman (@s8mb) February 23, 2018

mark s, Saturday, 24 February 2018 14:20 (six years ago) link

Conservative Party Vice Chair Ben Bradley has apologised unreservedly for a libellous tweet about Jeremy Corbyn, pledged to never repeat the claims in any form, agreed to make a substantial donation to charities of the Labour Leader’s choosing and meet his legal costs.
Jeremy will be splitting the funds between a homeless charity and a foodbank in Mr Bradley’s constituency of Mansfield.

Mr Bradley’s apology, which he will also tweet and ask followers to retweet, says:

“On 19 February 2018 I made a seriously defamatory statement on my Twitter account, ‘Ben Bradley MP (@bbradleymp)’, about Jeremy Corbyn, alleging he sold British secrets to communist spies. I have since deleted the defamatory tweet. I have agreed to pay an undisclosed substantial sum of money to a charity of his choice, and I will also pay his legal costs.

“I fully accept that my statement was wholly untrue and false. I accept that I caused distress and upset to Jeremy Corbyn by my untrue and false allegations, suggesting he had betrayed his country by collaborating with foreign spies.

“I am very sorry for publishing this untrue and false statement and I have no hesitation in offering my unreserved and unconditional apology to Jeremy Corbyn for the distress I have caused him.”

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 24 February 2018 14:24 (six years ago) link

The surest sign of a sad upper normie trying to show off - even more than liking Radiohead or claiming to enjoy wine - is someone who pretends not to like him.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 24 February 2018 14:28 (six years ago) link

> a foodbank in Mr Bradley’s constituency of Mansfield.

Genius

koogs, Saturday, 24 February 2018 14:34 (six years ago) link

Mr Bradley’s apology, which he will also tweet and ask followers to retweet, says:

“On 19 February 2018 I made a seriously defamatory statement on my Twitter account, ‘Ben Bradley MP (@bbradleymp)’, about Jeremy Corbyn, alleging he sold British secrets to communist spies. I have since deleted the defamatory tweet. I have agreed to pay an undisclosed substantial sum of money to a charity of his choice, and I will also pay his legal costs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i3zrzyLOCw

devvvine, Saturday, 24 February 2018 14:40 (six years ago) link

Honestly, why on Earth would Corbyn want to join a Telegraph circle jerk for a mediocre cartoonist in this of all weeks?

kim jong deal (suzy), Saturday, 24 February 2018 14:52 (six years ago) link

to be fair matt is probably the least worst of political cartoonists

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserver/image/methode%2Ftimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2Ff1780158-2533-11e7-bc20-132b509ff5ce.jpg

(like comedians they are all very bad)

mark s, Saturday, 24 February 2018 15:04 (six years ago) link

Yes, let's not forget the Telegraph has Blower - who will probably be described as a genius in a few years time.

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Saturday, 24 February 2018 15:26 (six years ago) link


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