Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

Again, though, totally support the NRA and their cohorts engaging in overblown, petulant responses which threaten to further marginalize them and undercut their extremist crusade.

lmao that guy just handed free legal ammunition to Delta to sue over any piece of legislation they don't like

Can't turn your nose up at free ammunition I guess

1) I can't believe I Actually Thought we could Accomplish anything before this midterm election
2) THEYRE MAKING IT SO EASY FOR US TO VOTE THEM OUT? ITS BEYOND LUDICROUS
3) Ya'll are lucky I don't curse on here
4) I have No Words. They are Actively rooting for our deaths now. https://t.co/fmB41fLPJa

— Emma González (@Emma4Change) February 27, 2018

she has the secret of populist Capialization

so much power

so young

She's the best. Hogg is pretty incredible, too.

hold up... that church is a MOONIE CHURCH? every headline writer who just wrote 'church' really needs to be spoken to

lol otm

Hogg has formidable camera presence and can speak in sentences; he shames whoever interviews him.

I think you mean he's a paid actor?

the new wingnut version is:

rightwingers understanding of power dynamics dot jpg pic.twitter.com/RhxTCmB0ui

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) February 26, 2018

i could shoot up a school on 5th avenue and my supporters would still love me!

I find Hogg guilty of conduct unbecoming a victim. How dare he directly confront the factors which led to his becoming a victim rather than weeping helplessly.

every time i read/see anything about gonzalez, hogg, and any of the others, i just start crying. they are SO FUCKING FIERCE coming out of an absolutely traumatic experience, at an age when most people can barely form coherent thoughts on anything.

Ah, but the "victims of illegals" exploitationpalooza '16 was TOTALLY different...

Re: Gonzalez and Hogg, specifically, it really says a lot that the suspicious red flag for so many is their passion, energy and coherence. Must be actors, right?

every time i read/see anything about gonzalez, hogg, and any of the others, i just start crying. they are SO FUCKING FIERCE coming out of an absolutely traumatic experience, at an age when most people can barely form coherent thoughts on anything.

― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:38 AM (thirty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OTM

and if the GOP is not shook by these "kids" then they should be

A thought about the Delta story: Ah, so THAT'S what will get Republicans to oppose a huge tax break for a massive corporation.

Economics-only theorists should take note: the tribal culture-war bullshit is (at least in this instance) stronger than capitalism.

Huh, I had no idea the NRA made it so difficult to cancel your membership. Requires sending them a signed letter, apparently, and you have to specifically demand to be removed from all lists.

Ronald Reagan on the idea of selling military weapons to the public pic.twitter.com/2AH0QZqT0s

— Beto O'Rourke (@BetoORourke) February 27, 2018

Someone should put together a snappy little guide/animation thing on what to you need to do to quit while this wave of outrage is relatively fresh. xp

The difficulty of quitting is echoed by the ease with which you get "lifetime" membership. The discount on "lifetime" is steep enough to make annual membership foolish, iirc. Not being a lifetime member is like buying your French fries individually.

tbf, what matters most about the NRA isn't how many 'lifetime' inactive members they may use to inflate themselves, but their ability to rally gun nuts to defeat incumbents who don't genuflect to the NRA agenda down to every last detail.

aimless otm. this new yorker profile of the nra’s chief lobbyist in florida lays it out in horrifying detail

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/05/the-nra-lobbyist-behind-floridas-pro-gun-policies/amp

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/05/the-nra-lobbyist-behind-floridas-pro-gun-policies

sorry about the amp link

as Kirk Douglas said in Out of the Past, "Nobody quits me."

That new yorker article is fucked.

The top 10 recipients of NRA money in the Senate have all got 100% ratings from the National Right to Life Committee. It's almost as if being anti-abortion has nothing to do with being "pro-life." https://t.co/gPeWJqmwAJ

— SchmOprah (@SchmOprah) February 27, 2018

What % of those senators are supporters of the death penalty.

this is of a piece with every social media chud I've encountered who immediately brings up abortion directly after deriding any attempt to regulate gun proliferation.

https://www.theonion.com/nation-shocked-by-pre-natal-shooting-1819565542

Life begins at conception, but its value rapidly plummets once that cord is cut.

Hahah oh this is entertaining.

After years of slandering the victims of Sandy Hook and other tragedies, Alex Jones begging a Parkland survivor to help him get back on good terms with YouTube. pic.twitter.com/p7QAe2859E

— Chris Wilson (@realchriswilson) February 27, 2018

"shit journalist" LOLLLLLL

interesting documentary re: pro-life support and gun control https://www.armoroflightfilm.com/

Aimless is right.

Thought experiment: If Trump came out full-throatedly in support of an assault weapons ban, how quickly would his base abandon him?

can y'all please, at least, say "semi-automatic" instead of "assault"? it's not merely a semantic difference - "assault" is meaningless, "semi-automatic" is not.

i really hate giving any ground to the "if you don't know the difference between gun x and gun y then you can't tell me what I should do with my guns" crowd tbh. I don't give a fuck about the different kinds of guns, and assault sounds scary as hell. I'm fine to demonize them by whatever means will stick.

xp - so, the term assaults your sensibility?

it is not so much meaningless as it is an emotional distinction that could not be transferred into legal language. a person who plans to assault a large group of people will not only select a semi-automatic weapon, but also one with a large capacity magazine, an appropriately large caliber, muzzle velocity, etc. A semi-automatic pistol with a limited magazine is just as semi-automatic as any other weapon, but would hardly be the first choice of a mass shooter.

And yet, a semi-automatic pistol with a limited magazine is what most would be heroes, be they police or armed teachers, would carry.

It's almost as if calling guns like the AR an assault weapon highlights the difference between it and other semi-automatics. It exists only to kill in large numbers, quickly.

xp true, but I'm cool with just banning "smaller" semi-autos as well, so I think we're better off sticking with "ban all semi-automatic weapons"

also, you're kind of wrong - the VA Tech shooting had very high casualties and was done w/handguns.

(see the clip of Rubio accidentally getting a ton of applause for suggesting that very thing)

can y'all please, at least, say "semi-automatic" instead of "assault"? it's not merely a semantic difference - "assault" is meaningless, "semi-automatic" is not.

no

it's an important legal distinction, but plz continue to be willfully ignorant so you can make rhetorical points

I'm on the "semi-automatic" side -- for one thing, banning semi-automatics would apply to a lot more guns than "assault rifles" does. Also it accurately describes the function (shooting lots of bullets fast) rather than getting into semantics.

thank you

rhetorical points can be extremely powerful

assault weapons make people think of those scary-looking weapons, when tbh yeah the Virginia Tech thing showed those weapons are not the only ones that should be targeted (sorry.)