the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

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Although given what we've seen of TM's decision-making, dithering is probably the best she could be doing right now.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 14:28 (six years ago) link

say what you want about Thatcher or Blair, if it came to making decisions that killed people they didn't dither

https://cdn1.umg3.net/95/files/2018/01/BANNER.jpg (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 14:37 (six years ago) link

stephen bush's line on TM is that she is in fact prone to sudden rash decisions which she then very stubbornly sticks with

(one of these was deciding to hand brexit negotiations to bjohnson ddavis and drl"the disgraced"fox)

Indeed.The "cautious May" narrative is almost entirely evidence-proof.

— Stephen Bush (@stephenkb) January 24, 2017

mark s, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 14:56 (six years ago) link

Gavin Williamson "Can I be Def..."
May "YARP"

nashwan, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 15:15 (six years ago) link

Labour + rebels supposedly have enough numbers to defeat the government on the Trade Bill amendment (the one committing the gov to customs union):

Conservative Brexit rebels tell me at least two more Tory MPs are signing the Trade bill amendment on the Customs Union, making a total so far of 10. https://t.co/DOvV6aGfjP

— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) February 28, 2018

Indeed the press attacks on the Brexit rebels appear to have backfired and rallied support amongst Remain-backing Conservatives, who are no longer scared of the Brexit-supporting press.

"I've been through all that now so that doesn't worry me at all," one of the Tory rebels told Business Insider this week.

Only question is if they’ll do it.

gyac, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 15:25 (six years ago) link

xxp you could see this dating back to some decisions as Home Secretary, like including students in immigration stats. It was unpalatable with much of the Cabinet and ironically increased the net migration figures, but she still wouldn’t budge.

gyac, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 15:27 (six years ago) link

I'd be very leery of ever sharing a daily mash thing on this thread but "Northern Ireland border could be beaded curtain, says government" was a genuine LOL esp with the accompanying photo.

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/northern-ireland-border-could-be-beaded-curtain-says-government-20180228145116

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 20:45 (six years ago) link

"if we use one, it’ll mean everyone knows exactly where the border is while not presenting any kind of barrier that would upset the IRA because you just part it with your hands.

“And if anyone tried to take terrorists or drugs or imports from China that don’t meet EU standards through, we’d know immediately because we’d hear the beads rattle.”

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 20:47 (six years ago) link

It's significant because it gives Labour, Tory rebels and other parties a potential blocking vote in the House of Commons, which all of course depends on the size of the Remainer Tory rebellion.

Which almost certainly won't happen..

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 22:08 (six years ago) link

Mad Lizzy on form:

Talking about 5 secrets of UK’s economic success @telegraph 1. Celebrate entrepreneurs 2. Control size of government 3. Shake up markets 4. Open professions 5. Take on NIMBYS #InvestinginBritain pic.twitter.com/t5mpnmowly

— Elizabeth Truss (@trussliz) February 28, 2018

The pathetic attempts at hashtags are always a winner but don't sleep on those subtle non-committals ("I have found this generation to be one of the most independent minded, enterprising and anti-establishment of our times #freewheelin #youngguns" / "Some of their ideas border on the absurd...forcing landlords to accept pets.")

nashwan, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 22:24 (six years ago) link

“Invest in gin, Britain” seems like sound advice tbh.

Tim, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 22:27 (six years ago) link

I was thrown by her tweet about growing up listening to Whitney Houston, for some reason I assumed she was much older, similar age to my accursed MP Amber Rudd. I realise I'm on shaky ground talking about a woman's appearance, and this is perhaps something I need to get used to because I suppose I've always assumed politicians, especially Tory ones, are a lot older than me, but she's only just over a year older than I am.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 22:30 (six years ago) link

6. Unlock forecasts
7. Non-non-non-doms
8. Macwofweakonomy

nashwan, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 22:31 (six years ago) link

9. open up new Pork Markets

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 22:34 (six years ago) link

the only MP older than me is frank field

https://www.ripleys.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Fake-mummy.jpg

mark s, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 22:36 (six years ago) link

lol

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 22:39 (six years ago) link

You thought John McTernan was bad? His son sounds like a right little prick:

I remember taking my son -- then four -- to Prime Minister's Questions in the House of Commons in London. He observed in silence the parliamentary give and take from the Visitor's Gallery. But afterward, when asked by his Member of Parliament, Tessa Jowell, what he had thought of the whole thing, he responded thoughtfully: "If we behaved like that at our nursery we would have time out."

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 March 2018 13:23 (six years ago) link

where 's the lie?

mark s, Thursday, 1 March 2018 13:35 (six years ago) link

disclaimer: mcternan follows me on twitter so he's not wrong about absolutely every single thing

mark s, Thursday, 1 March 2018 13:36 (six years ago) link

from the mouths of babes etc

NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 1 March 2018 13:36 (six years ago) link

Not enough thoughtful 4 year olds in British politics.

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 March 2018 13:42 (six years ago) link

and the same in action:

I've watched this GIF at least 100 times now, cry-laughing the entire time. pic.twitter.com/Hih7VJe28T

— Helen 侯-Sandí (@helenhousandi) February 23, 2018

mark s, Thursday, 1 March 2018 13:49 (six years ago) link

What a dorkus malorkus.

Mea culpa, I was wrong to say that Mr Corbyn voted against the Good Friday Agreement. He did not.

— Jacob Rees-Mogg (@Jacob_Rees_Mogg) March 1, 2018

nashwan, Thursday, 1 March 2018 13:54 (six years ago) link

I've done my bit and RTd

Simon H., Thursday, 1 March 2018 13:56 (six years ago) link

tories: why are they so shit at twitter

NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 1 March 2018 13:56 (six years ago) link

Ken Livingstone on indefinite Labour Party suspension. Good.

kim jong deal (suzy), Thursday, 1 March 2018 14:19 (six years ago) link

people who you hadn't realised were still alive

very good news

Simon H., Thursday, 1 March 2018 14:36 (six years ago) link

Ken can FO to Russia Times, there are already enough blueLabour tools trying to smear Corbyn with antisemitism slurs every week without that fool supplying the ammo.

calzino, Thursday, 1 March 2018 15:03 (six years ago) link

We got there in the end - a remarkable national effort. Thank you. https://t.co/8D23AKbuwH

— George Osborne (@George_Osborne) March 1, 2018

It was the right thing to do https://t.co/d4g2fFma23

— David Cameron (@David_Cameron) March 1, 2018

Pricks.

nashwan, Thursday, 1 March 2018 23:10 (six years ago) link

theresa’s Pub tribute act premiership continues - she’s doing the old 5 tests routine.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 1 March 2018 23:29 (six years ago) link

remarkable effort of self-deception by Gideon tbf, probably the coke helps.

calzino, Thursday, 1 March 2018 23:35 (six years ago) link

lol I thought that was a fake Osborne account at first, amazing to see ppl still reppin' for austerity in 2018

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 2 March 2018 10:42 (six years ago) link

i don't think the Georges of this world are suddenly gonna start tweeting "BIG UP THE WELFARE STATE"

Under the influence of the Ranters (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 March 2018 10:43 (six years ago) link

No I get that, I'd just imagine that (like much of the European pro-austerity right) they'd be conspicously silent on this matter for a while.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 2 March 2018 10:45 (six years ago) link

George still hopes to be Prime Minister though so I imagine he wants to highlight his successes

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Friday, 2 March 2018 10:47 (six years ago) link

and it's a way of life, a programme without limits until the State is at least Nozickianly minimal, gotta keep the message out there

Under the influence of the Ranters (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 March 2018 10:51 (six years ago) link

Theresa May: if Labour wins at the next election “I’d be breaking rocks in John McDonnell’s re-education camp on the Isle of Man" https://t.co/yYeEIBxZ5Q pic.twitter.com/ktgKZz6UHH

— i newspaper (@theipaper) March 1, 2018

mark s, Friday, 2 March 2018 11:07 (six years ago) link

she's trying to convince us that McDonnell is soft on gulags

Under the influence of the Ranters (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 March 2018 11:09 (six years ago) link

Is that supposed to discourage people from voting labour

But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 2 March 2018 11:11 (six years ago) link

i was gonna say

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 2 March 2018 11:11 (six years ago) link

great news everyone. the lesser NS is getting paywalled

belcalis almanzar (||||||||), Friday, 2 March 2018 11:13 (six years ago) link

The Isle of Man, meh, that would be a fucking holiday camp, way too temperate.

calzino, Friday, 2 March 2018 11:16 (six years ago) link

i'm not sure it'd be productive to employ them or feed them or house them tbh

Under the influence of the Ranters (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 March 2018 11:20 (six years ago) link

Theresa May > Theresa May's husband > Paradise Papers > Isle of Man

get 2 work momentum thugs

But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 2 March 2018 11:21 (six years ago) link

At least if we have an ex Soviet spy in no 10 his pal Putin could lease some Siberia to us, and spare us even having to think about the Isle of Shit!

calzino, Friday, 2 March 2018 11:26 (six years ago) link

Getting quite enough Siberia as things stand right now thanks.

Matt DC, Friday, 2 March 2018 11:27 (six years ago) link

all former tory ministers to be tried at the tynwald and then strapped to the laxey wheel so that they can spend their retirement rotating, groaning and taking in idyllic views of a tax haven whilst staying in touch with a proud bit of heritage

ogmor, Friday, 2 March 2018 11:27 (six years ago) link


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