Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

when ur totally not getting owned by teens pic.twitter.com/CBJnbUzDt4

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) February 28, 2018

lol @ li'l marco trying to zing both Trump and angry shooting victims there

BREAKING: Police in Georgia respond to shots fired at high school and have taken a teacher into custody; no children hurt.

— The Associated Press (@AP) February 28, 2018

arm the students

Lunch lady with a rifle could’ve stopped this

arm the students, arm the teachers, let God sort em out

arm god

Wish Christians would stop fucking saying “Jude[ o ]-Christian”, don’t use us as a fig leaf for your bigotry

abolish schools

Abra-Goin' Ham-ic religions

think this teacher didn't understand how Trump's bonus was intended to work

countdown to cries of "crisis actor paid by liberals to weaken the NRA's position" in 5, 4, 3, 2....

already seen FALSE FLAG tweets about it

Lol there’s no countdown that was the immediate reaction

I don't know if we are here because of something we did, or if whoever is in charge of everything just hates us for no reason. maybe there's something even worse coming after this, i dont know. but we are all definitely in hell right now. this is hell. pic.twitter.com/feBJlFmYgl

— jesse farrar (@BronzeHammer) February 28, 2018

http://www.thinkingcinema.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Reservoir-Dogs-Standoff.png

an absolute mortal lock that this shooting is deemed a false flag by progressives intending to undermine the argument that we should arm teachers

checking in on the deranged

Worshippers clutching AR-15 rifles and some wearing bullet crowns, participated in a commitment ceremony today at World Peace and Unification Sanctuary, in Newfoundland, Pa. The event led a nearby school to cancel classes for the day. Photos @jacquelinelarma pic.twitter.com/GXzrZeK41z

— AP Images (@AP_Images) February 28, 2018

are those...military personnel?

we are so fucked

whoever has been saying around here that America is a death cult has a comrade in me. I'm more convinced than ever that Christianity is as well.

The pastor of that Newfoundland church is the son of the Rev. Sun Myung Moon.

also owns a gun company

American evangelicals - still not too sure about Catholics or Jews but Moonies are cool

giving all this free press to the fucking moonies while every other outlet just reports them as “a church” is super annoying

meanwhile the democratic party sends me an email with the subject "I'm no stranger to handling a firearm, Katherine"

That sounds like a threat

it is

A good read.

giving all this free press to the fucking moonies while every other outlet just reports them as “a church” is super annoying

SERIOUSLY WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH EVERYONE

Police say a seventh-grader emerged from the bathroom of an Ohio school, ready to shoot students with a semi-automatic rifle. He then changed his mind, went back inside and killed himself. https://t.co/MXJmP6BXBL

— AP Eastern US (@APEastRegion) March 1, 2018

fuck.

god. 13 years old.

whoever has been saying around here that America is a death cult has a comrade in me. I'm more convinced than ever that Christianity is as well.

― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion)

anybody who doesn't think christianity is an apocalyptic death cult hasn't read the christian scriptures

fortunately for everybody that category seems to include most christians

"and i noticed in the most difficult times in my life there was only one set of footsteps in the sand, and i asked jesus about this, and he opened his mouth to speak, but a flaming sword shot out and killed everybody"

are Moonies Christian?

no

Sure they are Christian, in the sense that they believe moon is the second coming of Christ.

About as Christian as Mormons, who seem pretty well accepted by American Protestants now.

that's the thing about christianity, nobody can say with any certainty that anybody isn't a "real" christian. every christian is a fake christian.

the moonies are a cult and the only reason anyone calls them a church is because they made a fuckload of money and peddled their influence to media organizations in the 80's and 90's

What the fuck is a Moonie

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unification_Church_of_the_United_States

thanks i hate it

There are some eccentrics trying to return to the pre-Pauline Ebionite sect of the historical Jesus. It's about as feasible as neo-pagans attempting to recreate other lost religions of antiquity.

Delegating all judgment of other people to an imaginary friend has been working splendidly for me.

Eh. I am not sure I mind all that much if people lazily conflate the Moon church with more mainstream denominations. They're equally speculative, they just differ in degree of weirdness. Possibly a minority view and anyway not for this thread

There are some eccentrics trying to return to the pre-Pauline Ebionite sect of the historical Jesus. It's about as feasible as neo-pagans attempting to recreate other lost religions of antiquity.

― It's because I'm human, isn't it?! (Sanpaku)

surely that's most of the appeal, isn't it? if you're trying to follow pauline christianity you have to reckon with all of those darn primary source documents (some of which at least are unlikely to be forgeries) that contradict what you believe. all we know about the ebionites are taken from heresiologists who, being biased on the topic, can safely be ignored. such practices strike me as being the purest form of christianity - claiming to follow Ancient Eternal Truth while in practice doing whatever the hell one feels like.

sorry. somebody should probably revive a christianity thread to talk about this, shouldn't they?

My point was just this: as a matter of epistemology, being a Moonie or Mormon or neo-pagan or Lubavitcher isn't inherently more absurd than being a Presbyterian or whatever. Zeus and Thor and Ra and Kali and God all have the same amount of evidence in their favor (none). So saying that these denominations over here are respectable - while those ones over there are kooky - is purely a matter of culture, power, taste, and class. To me, the Unification churches and the Lutheran ones are on equally shaky ground, theologically speaking. Plenty of absurdity in the mainstream doctrines.

mmmm, i think doctrine in religion is a cousin to policy in politics - people tend to overrate how influential such things are. if politics is a matter of group affiliation, religion is even more so - the lutheran church is not "mainline" because of any doctrines they happen to hold, but because of the social dynamics and makeup of that particular group. the mormons were "fringe" in america almost exclusively because they practiced polygamy - their doctrine regarding coffee and tea didn't matter. polygamy was of course a doctrine, but more importantly it was, even after being repudiated as a doctrine, a social practice. it was not the repudiation of polygamy of a doctrine, but its repudiation as a social practice, that made the lds "mainstream".

it's not the beliefs that make a cult a cult obv, but the dynamic between its elect and its members