Oscars 2018

So, Beatty and Dunaway take two for best picture, eh?

:o

if so it's gonna be heavily scripted comedy

Slant BP pick strikes me as "wishful." (Kinda like Ed's RussiaRussiaRussia doc feature pick, but I think he's got the mindset right there.)

https://www.slantmagazine.com/house/article/oscar-2018-winner-predictions-picture

"politically acute genre miscegenation" zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

that's a lot of adjectives to live down

if Slant's picks prove correct and Get Out were to win ONLY Best Picture, it will be interpreted by many as a supreme act of tokenism.

xps go to bed, old man.

And you're damned right it'll be tokenism. Until every category gets the ranked-choice treatment.

what's the fewest Oscars a BP has ever won?

I think Grand Hotel won just the one.

Plus The Broadway Melody and Mutiny on the Bounty

In modern times, Spotlight only one two.

wow. 3 movies that have aged about as well as the hamfisted, evasive third act of Get Out will. xp

"politically acute genre miscalculation" works for me btw

Any chance Jerry Lewis wins the obit montage? Didn't check any of the necrologies.

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), 1. marts 2018 21:35 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm hoping we get a Rylance-type surprise -- anything

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), 1. marts 2018 21:53 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Wow. That's dark, Alfred.

I coined the term "genre miscegenation" with you in mind, as the very thing that irks Oscar voters' Ernest Borgnine demo.

Nah, Ernest Borgnine comp doesn't work re Get Out. He wasn't above *appearing* in shit horror films, at least...

YEP IT WAS GONNA GO THERE

anyway Eric i appreciate yr calling Phantom Thread as Should Win (unless that was a combo vote)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DmYLrxR0Y8

Also, Grand Hotel is in like the 90th percentile for the first few decades of Oscar winners.

idgi, the 90th percentile re what?

Decent pictures to win, I think.

The 1930s had some of the worst winners in history: Cimarron, The Broadway Melody, Cavalcade

OK, maybe 90th percentile is a stretch, but it's among the best of everything pre-Gone with the Wind.

KJB hates it! Immune to all-star power, I guess.

I'm not crazy about it either.

I wouldn't kick it out of bed, though, which, admittedly, would be her considering its size.

her=hard

All Quiet on the Western Front
It Happened One Night
You Can't Take It with You

Those are the ones that I'll sit still for being called better. None of the rest.

Of course, of the next decade after that, the only one that's worse than Grand Hotel is Mrs. Miniver.

The last third of You Can't Take It with You is a disgrace, where they tear up the play and turn it into a Capracorn faux class-conflict thing.

(ie GWTW is better)

Right, I'm counting GWTW as the first of the next batch.

the year crash won (won 3 awards) was also the year martin mcdonagh won his first oscar (for best live short)

also, mcdonagh is now going out with fleabag (pheobe waller-bridge) but i don't know if fleabag has made it to north america.

It Happened One Night is great

I think Get Out will win. the purging of the Academy voting rolls & abundance of diverse young voters can't be overstated imo. i mean, fucking Moonlight won best picture last year. I think Peele has a good shot at director & screenplay, too.

I'm sending Catherine Keener after you with a tea cup if you're wrong.

i'll drink anything that woman gives me

https://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/still/hamlet2_11.jpg

I'm coming around to the Get Out argument

Who was purged from the Academy? I didn't realise that has happened: I just thought they'd added new people to dilute the old crowd.

Billy Mumy. That's about it, but it's gonna make a huge difference.

Is there still enough excitement about Get Out, though? It's been a year since it made its biggest impact. Moonlight was somewhat better timed for awards season.

maybe not as many as i thought: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/oscarssowhite-academy-struggles-diversity-age-885633

Four days after that, she sent all Academy members an email — and simultaneously issued a press release — revealing that the previous evening the board unanimously had authorized "a series of courageous steps." Among them: members who had not remained "active" in the business during a 10-year period since being invited to join the Academy — except for those who had been nominated for an Oscar or who had demonstrated activity in three consecutive decades since joining the Academy — would lose their voting privileges beginning in the 2016 awards cycle.

xp - yes, Get Out has sustained excitement and every anonymous voter article i've read focusing on younger voters has them all voting for Get Out for Best Picture, Director, & Screenplay. one of them said that "Get Out is in my opinion the only masterpiece in the running this year." i'm positive Get Out will go down as the most important movie of the decade when the time comes.

they didn't replace all the Old Guard, y'know.

movies are not important.

still, the BP tabulation method is fucking insane, eliminating low finishers and crediting 2nd/3rd place votes til one gets over 50%?

and the whole notion of "awards season timing" and genre exclusions have gone out the window with younger voters. But there's an equally strong feeling among older voters who said "that's not an Oscar movie" and refused to see it. I still don't see what could win instead- Lady Bird feels like such a token pick, that one anonymous voter in the vulture article was otm: "this was a movie that five years ago would've been a hit at Sundance and got bought for 5-10 million" and "i'm glad Greta got nominated but it's ridiculous that Lady Bird is up against Phantom Thread and Dunkirk for Best Director."

xp- what's the old guard's pick? 3 Billboards? The Shape of Water?

also in that vulture piece someone brought up Gary Oldman's history of domestic abuse, which I didn't know about, and I don't think many Academy voters know about either. seems like all 4 acting categories are a wash- rockwell, janney, oldman, mcdormand. what do yall think?

Slant demurs

the "Scalia dissents" of the filmcrit world

I'm hoping for a Metcalf or Manville upset.

Oldman's personal history has been weirdly buried, yeah.

but Kobe Bryant's cartoon is apparently poised to win, and he had a case dismissed...

Dear Basketball, the ACTUAL worst movie nominated for an award this year outside of The Insult.

I only just caught Get Out; it's merely good, kind of an A minus grade student art film? But I thought Kaluuya was <i>phenomenal</i>. Everything works in the movie because of Kaluuya, not Jordan Peele.