(I wish I could figure out a way to shoehorn my facilities with assembling IKEA furniture and parsing Marvel's publishing eccentricities into my resume somehow.)
― Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Friday, 2 March 2018 13:16 (six years ago) link
Keep in mind that there's a gap between the volume you just bought and the one featuring Jessica's pregnancy but you won't have missed anything in between because the Marvel U was busy getting a hard refresh at the time and the storylines in all of the post-Secret Wars books jumped ahead 8-9 months into the future.
This is true -- though if you're looking to be a stone completist, there's a funny little 4-pg. Spider-Woman story at the end of ASM #1 (2015) (the post-SW relaunch issue) that teases the new series: https://www.amazon.com/Amazing-Spider-Man-Comic-No/dp/B01509IS3Q
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Friday, 2 March 2018 15:47 (six years ago) link
...unless they thought to include that story in the "Baby Talk" volume (which would make sense) (which means they probably didn't do it!).
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Friday, 2 March 2018 17:03 (six years ago) link
And they say modern comics are inaccessible to the casual reader!
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 2 March 2018 18:44 (six years ago) link
And they're absolutely right!
― Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Friday, 2 March 2018 18:46 (six years ago) link
Actually, that 4-pager WAS in Baby Talk, miraculously enough.
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Friday, 2 March 2018 23:47 (six years ago) link
Nice, I’m glad!
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Saturday, 3 March 2018 00:02 (six years ago) link
Has anyone been reading the AMERICA series? If so how is it?
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 05:04 (six years ago) link
She punches Hitler at the end of the first issue - I didn’t read a second.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 09:59 (six years ago) link
Read em all and loved em all. Heard it go canceled?
― rb (soda), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 10:06 (six years ago) link
finally!
SPOILER: I'm bringing back Jonah's catchphrase "buy yourself some twist records" and also Peter's catchphrase "is what I like also" pic.twitter.com/ZBrcUUh6cs— Chip Zdarsky (@zdarsky) March 6, 2018
― mh, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 21:20 (six years ago) link
xpostApparently so, RE: cancellation: https://www.polygon.com/comics/2017/12/22/16810138/marvel-exec-insists-wave-of-cancellations-not-motivated-by-books-diversity
Maybe I'll check out the TPB collections...
Also, if I may, a "cover connection":
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/S/cmx-images-prod/Item/529575/529575._SX1280_QL80_TTD_.jpghttps://thenextissuepodcast.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/lrvol1-24.jpg
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 21:21 (six years ago) link
That Jaime cover is pretty much the coolest thing ever drawn...
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 21:28 (six years ago) link
Squirrel Girl's lookin' scary mean there
― Nhex, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 23:52 (six years ago) link
and yeah it is. the poses are like perfect
I want to start reading Fantastic Four. But where? What are good arcs/eras/writers? I don't even know where to begin. Usually I get collections/trades from the library digital service –– what should I check out?
― rb (soda), Friday, 9 March 2018 19:23 (six years ago) link
what sort of thing do you want to read, that you're looking to find in Fantastic Four?
― just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Friday, 9 March 2018 19:58 (six years ago) link
The Jonathan Hickman run is probably the best thing he ever did at Marvel.
― Frederik B, Friday, 9 March 2018 20:17 (six years ago) link
If you have a taste for silver age comics, checking out the early F4 is the place to start. Lots of the Marvel Universe started in that comic first. Visually those comics are great and they mostly hold up pretty well if you consider they were written for kids of that time.
John Byrne's long run on Fantastic Four is probably the best known outside Jack Kirby and Stan Lee.
― earlnash, Friday, 9 March 2018 20:42 (six years ago) link
I'm not sure how the essentials collections are as far as different versions, but it'd be a good start.
― mh, Friday, 9 March 2018 20:46 (six years ago) link
Essential Fantastic Four volume one through...I dunno, five? six? collects the entire Lee & Kirby run.
― Ape Wipes (Old Lunch), Friday, 9 March 2018 21:04 (six years ago) link
― I’m 16 and a member of UKIP’s youth wing, young independence (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 March 2018 22:26 (six years ago) link
The early FFs are - even by the standards of fly-by-night kids' comics more than sixty years old - pretty crude stuff, tho' obviously absolutely foundational, year zero, to marveldom ever after. Lee and especially Kirby were at career low points when they produced FF #1, and Jack certainly wasn't giving it his all on those early issues. Mostly lousy inking doesn't help - issue 5 is pleasingly inked by Joe Sinnott (who wouldn't ink another issue of the FF until #44), but the artwork doesn't really start to cook until Chic Stone takes over as inker from issue #28. From #44 on to almost the end of Kirby's run (say about issue #90, when Jack really wanted OUT), artwork/storylines are pretty sublime, as good as Silver Age superhero comics ever got. There's a really great Prisoner rip-off/Doctor Doom three parter in the #80s that is Kirby's last great hurrah. If you've never read these issues before, you are in for a treat.
After Kirby, FF remained Marvel's 'flagship' book (but not most popular - that was Spidey of course) so the company's top talent - John Romita, John Buscema lusciously inked by Sinnott - were assigned to the art. Polished tho' this stuff was, neither of these artists, or new writers Archie Goodwin and Roy Thomas, could come close to matching Kirby's intensity and cosmic inventiveness, the driving force behind the FF's glory years.
I do really like Roy Thomas' second stint as FF writer, later on in the 1970s, mostly drawn by a young George Perez and tidied up by good old Joe Sinnott, still - you get a great Hulk story, a great issue where they try to recruit new members, some good cosmic monkey stuff.
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 9 March 2018 23:30 (six years ago) link
^Those are issues are roughly #164 to #175 - I'd forgotten, there's also a really fantastic Puppet Master-Luke Cage story in #170. Caveat: all 70s Marvels have much higher word counts than the Marvel comics of today, and Roy Thomas was one of the biggest gasbags.
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 9 March 2018 23:38 (six years ago) link
I enjoyed Simonson's FF run - dinosaurs, robot Stalin in a mech suit
― Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Saturday, 10 March 2018 00:00 (six years ago) link
Noted. I started reading essentials collection from number one, and ... yeah, they were pretty sloggy. I’m trying to get a sense of the important stories / relationships, and also trying to have fun figuring out exactly why they’re gone from the canon now.
― rb (soda), Saturday, 10 March 2018 01:26 (six years ago) link
The reveal of the Hate-Monger's identity (either at the end of the first or the beginning of the second Essential volume) was where I was like, yeah, okay, yes, totally on board now.
― Ape Wipes (Old Lunch), Saturday, 10 March 2018 02:38 (six years ago) link
I love the issue where Dr. Doom steals the Baxter building. I'd love to see a Bruce Timm version of F4 cartoon of that issue.
― earlnash, Saturday, 10 March 2018 14:34 (six years ago) link
I can't tell if this story is badly written or I'm too tired to follow it properly, but either way, oy: https://www.thedailybeast.com/picked-apart-by-vultures-the-last-days-of-stan-lee
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 12 March 2018 13:19 (six years ago) link
there is some ridiculous amazon/comixology sale right now with digital tpbs priced at a buckhttps://www.amazon.com/b?ie=UTF8&node=15280919011
― mh, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 03:27 (six years ago) link
recs?
― Nhex, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 04:15 (six years ago) link
Whoa! Thanks for this. I picked up 5 things (including the complete “Vision” series), then got tired of scrolling thru the pages (and figure I’ve got enough to last me a while!)
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 05:07 (six years ago) link
there are a few masterworks ones in there, although some have the bad recoloring problem. but this might be the first time I've seen them really throw in a lot of Atlas-era stuff
Vision for sure
― mh, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 13:47 (six years ago) link
I obviously bought the Atlas collection with GOOM on the cover, because... GOOM
I grabbed the complete Vision - for 69p, it seemed wrong not to, plus all those nine-panel-pages are perfect for phone reading.
Nothing else really inspired me but I picked up a couple of Epic Collections because they're so BIG - the Nocenti/Daredevil collection, and one from the unloved late period of PAD's Hulk run. I realised I miss reading weird, B grade, journeyman superhero comics - which was most of my comics reading when I was a kid.
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 16:49 (six years ago) link
Nocenti DD and David Hulk are both golden. Good choices. Nocenti remains one of the weirdest voices to ever grace mainstream comics imo.
― Ape Wipes (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 17:11 (six years ago) link
I went on a nostalgia run - New Defenders, Longshot, Wolverine/Nick Fury Scorpio Connection, Excalibur's Cross-Time Caper - and picked up the Nick Fury Marvel Masterworks (coloring be damned).
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 17:13 (six years ago) link
Is that Black Bolt thing good?
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 17:39 (six years ago) link
It's okay but I didn't love it. Fine for a dollar though.
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 17:47 (six years ago) link
"I'd buy that for a dollar!" (sorry)
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 21:14 (six years ago) link
apropos of nothing here's a giant list of Marvel crossovers/'events'
― Brakhage, Friday, 16 March 2018 14:31 (six years ago) link
A pair of old polls on that very subject:
The Greatest Marvel Universe Event!The Greatest Marvel Universe Event (X-Edition)!
― Another helping of mouthwatering cobbler? (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 March 2018 14:35 (six years ago) link
pic.twitter.com/k2TD5D1mNP— Al Ewing Writes Comics And Tells You About Them (@Al_Ewing) March 28, 2018
― mh, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 16:16 (six years ago) link
Amadeus Cho already on the chopping block, huh
― Nhex, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 18:00 (six years ago) link
I haven't kept up, is he still on Planet Hulk 2.0?
― mh, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 18:29 (six years ago) link
I'm reading the "Vision" collection, but not really digging it... I think its particular brand of literary pretension is not my preferred brand of literary pretension (or something).
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Sunday, 8 April 2018 02:51 (six years ago) link
On another note, I just read TALES TO ASTONISH #44 – first appearance of The Wasp – it’s pretty fantastic (both Kirby’s art and the scripting).
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Sunday, 8 April 2018 03:31 (six years ago) link
Psersevere till the end, it’s only short and very worth it, honest
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 8 April 2018 18:22 (six years ago) link
OK, will do!
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Sunday, 8 April 2018 18:33 (six years ago) link
There are like a half dozen collections of Fantastic Four material solicited for July, and all of the True Believer one-off reprints are also FF-related. Your guess is as good as mine as to what that portends. My money is on a surprise summer theatrical release of the Corman film.
― Across the You Never Her (Old Lunch), Thursday, 19 April 2018 13:59 (six years ago) link