Oscars 2018

btw isn't You Can't Take It With You too *screwball* for you?

I said I can imagine and accept arguments for it being better than Grand Hotel. I didn't outline a referendum on my own taste.

well yeah we can only have one kind of black filmmaker, right?

No, in 2016-17 Oscar terms, just the kind who can't do third acts.

Whereas this is potentially desirable in a political contest.

yep, the alt-right is quakin'

strike that, i misinterpreted yr post

yesssss: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/brutally-honest-oscar-ballot-get-filmmakers-played-race-card-just-sick-meryl-streep-1090440/item/best-original-screenplay-2018-brutally-honest-oscars-ballot-2-1090472?utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral

lmfao:

At a talkback, he [del Toro] said, “I wrote a love story because I really think that if we love each other more, it will solve a lot of the problems in the world today.” I hadn’t thought about things that way and I liked that.

Oscar voter unfamiliar with Buddha, Jesus, Beatles

In Call Me by Your Name,] one guy [Armie Hammer] comes off as a 35-year-old hitting on a 17-year-old [22-year-old Timothee Chalamet], and that just bothered me

Here's the real reason why SPC was afraid to promote this thing.

I eliminated The Post first. To me, it was the most boring movie. I remember that era, and that Kay Graham flew in to LBJ’s parties every weekend down on his ranch — that I would have liked to have seen!

Oscar voter otm

“I wrote a love story because I really think that if we love each other more, it will solve a lot of the problems in the world today.”

Please let be mixing up del Toro and Tommy Wiseau.

oldman was dreadful to the point of surrealism, in case anyone's been wondering.

Like our president, say.

Would totally watch Trump in prosthetics playing Churchill.

I'd watch him prosthetics playing Trump.

watching the audience react to darkest hour was a hundred times more alienating and baffling than the 2016 election

Mayfair showing pretty muted. Where did you see it?

i'm in hawaii. muted is what i'm complaining about: you wait for the raucous laughter and it never comes

Ah, I see. Over here I'd heard report of rounds of applause at the end and the like, which was what I failed to experience.

a lot of impressed and moved talk in the lobby afterwards; the worst thing you can get anyone to say about it is that the movie isn't as good as oldman's performance, when in fact they are exactly suited for each other

anyway, sobering (in that interview) to see streep-sickness finally afflict the most resilient among us.

"i loved get out until its creators claimed it was about race" is presumably the premise of get out 2

That left it down to Darkest Hour and The Shape of Water.

OK, time to shuffle off the mortal voter roll.

Just heard the crazy system for voting best picture, which I guess takes into account second and third and so on choices (I think). Maybe this was on NPR? Anyway, they sort of theorized that Dunkirk and Get Out had the best underdog chances, because they were the most liked and made the most money so would perhaps appear on enough ballots in second or third (or first) place to get enough total votes to win.

Also, had two (female) friends of mine wonder if they would have liked Call Me By Your Name (which they loved) as much if it was set in Indiana and not Italy.

a lake house in Indianapolis, say.

I'm ruling Dunkirk out on the basis of most Academy members viewing these films on screeners (and, as someone commented here, probably doing sudoku at the same time).

Call Me By Your Name feels like a good outside bet to me.

Yeah a preferential ballot is crazy, Oscars should use a good rational voting system like the Electoral College

no shot for CMBYN as bp: we did gay last year

Nah.

roughly i think the odds are

3 Billboards 40%
Shape 35%
Lady Bird 15%
Get Out 10%

CMBYN is also probably the least watched of any of the nominees

Get Out? Surely the voters will think they did black last year ;)

xpost

that's different.

has 538 weighed in?

rly can't see get out winning, despite its being well-positioned to sneak in. the anthony lane review wrung its hands over the movie supposedly proposing we "cannot live together". imagine how oscar voters feel.

Academy kremlinology feels more fun than ever this year. One thing I always want to know (so much I just asked my first ever Quora question about it, to zero response):

Someone, at some point, tabulates the votes and knows what came second, how big the margin was etc. Does this knowledge go to their graves, or is it preserved in some secret Academy archive vault? I'd love it if after 50 years or whatever, this information was released.

Call Me stands the least chance in hell of winning.

It's The Shape of Water, Three Billboards, or Get Out. If TB wins Best Screenplay early, start pouring drinks.

So, am I crazy for predicting Lady Bird, as I did when my parents asked a while back?

Not gonna happen.

that oscar voter "eliminated" an awful lot of movies despite it being a preferential voting system.

Three Billboards is gonna sweep isn't it, although i think Greta is an outside shout for Director.

This can't have hurt

https://subscription-assets.timeinc.com/current/1850_top1_205_thumb.jpg

Watched Pan's Labyrinth with my wife and older daughter last night. They both loved it, and boy is that movie better than Shape of Water. (And yeah, Del Toro really likes stabbing and shooting people in the face). As my daughter (who has not seen SoW) astutely observed, the horrific sadistic violence in Pan's at least makes thematic sense because its perpetrated by horrific sadistic capital F fascists in the midst of fascist Spain, not gratuitously in some government facility in '50s Baltimore or wherever by an inexplicable psychopath.

(Had to look it up, and Pan's lost best foreign film to The Lives of Others, which is fair enough. But had it been nominated for Best Picture, as it might of, say, this year, it sure would have beat the fucking Departed.)

Over dinner last night my wife, who had gone running that morning and talked Oscars with her pals, stated "Boy, no one likes Three Billboards, do they?" She has been tasked with bringing a dish to an Oscar theme party. She is bringing Three Cheeseboards.

Lives of Others is among the most awful of foreign film winners. Sentimental hogwash.

Why, after all these decades, are you confusing Oscar winners with quality?

why, after all these decades, are you so cranky this morning?

Del Toro's Spanish language films are his best, IMO. Must be the excellent catering.

Why, after all these decades, are you confusing Oscar winners with quality?

Because after all these decades their imprimatur can still sometimes draw someone out to see something that is not a superhero film?

I've only just realised that Michael Shannon wasn't nominated for The Shape of Water. I loved him in that more than I've loved anything he's done for ages. I guess the way Del Toro shoots him is a big part of that.

omg this is amazing

Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway to present best picture Oscar again

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/mar/02/warren-beatty-faye-dunaway-present-best-picture-oscar-again

Oh hell yeah

oh dear:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkqFhfMqz9M

Everyone's going to be high as a novelty kite aren't they? Considering the legalized weed i mean.

piscesx gettin news by Pony Express :)

really don't see a Metcalf upset if the Spirits bypassed her

Stream anyone?