the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

I like to keep my malt based drinks out of politics.

And Horlicks is amazing not good!

Just checked press only have ovaltine ffs

Just walking past the Tetley Brewery in Leeds and getting that lovely malty aroma, which is far nicer than any of the piss they produce, gives me a massive horlicks craving.

I'm the same with Guinness the drink -bogpiss- and the lovely toasty smell of the malting that covers most of d8 on a cool morning

Anyways I'm on milk rationing thanks to our never forgetting the famine when a weather event comes up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dS2McPYzEE&t=3m14s

damn - 3:14 in "who spilled their Ovaltine over the weekend?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dS2McPYzEE

All of this is fantastic. Tempted to spend the day in a Mark Leckey loop.

Take a drink every time T May uses the word 'ambitious' to describe her vision

I can't face another Con party political broadcast on the BBC. I'll start getting bitter and asking for my tv license money refunding/wishing slow painful deaths on various ppl.

LOL @ Theresa May now being presented as some kind of political genius for 'reuniting the Tory Party'.

has her grand Machiavellian strategy been just to act like a fucking idiot all the time?

"act"

I refer you to the "Baldrick" thread

wait, now I'm getting a flashback to a song that went "we are the Heselteeneys" from some satirical TV show in the 80s, probably Spitting image, but I can't find any mention of that online so maybe it's a false flashback.

no i remember that too, must be Spitting Image

stop remembering spitting image, it was bad

wasn't denying that, but it's a formative memory

for some reason I have very vivid memories of that "you'll never meet a nice South African" song spitting image did. It was probably bad, but when you are young and bad yourself, what do you know?

we only had 3 channels

ok, it came back to me via another remembered line from the Heselteeney's song "why did you have to paint him red, you should have used blue paint instead" - Heseltine was sprayed with red paint at a Greenham Common protest, I think.

lol @ Paigon O'Neil, gritty radical brexiteer + Republic of Grime/Ireland spokesman denouncing Stormzy "has been co-opted by the chattering class". Absolute bellend.

he should know his place

at least Sir Bradley Wiggins is having another bad day.

you mean drug cheat and car advert faux sentimentalist Lord Bradley Weller of PEDington?

Need to strip those Golds away before he takes them to Cash Converters!

Most recent election results for European social democratic parties:

Fr: PS 7%
De: SPD 20.5%
Nl: PvDA 6%
Gr: PASOK 6%
Es: PSOE 22.6%
It: PD: 19%
At: SPÖ: 26.9%
Se: S 31%
Cz: ČSSD 7.3%
Dk: S 26.3%
Pt: PS 32.3%
Fi: SDP 16.5%
No: AP 27.4%
Ch: 18.8%
Is: S 12.1%

UK: LAB 40%

— Jon Stone (@joncstone) March 5, 2018

Need to bear in mind the split between FPTP and other systems there though.

issue examined with in the responses

(unless this was the joke yr making)

How many of those have been in government/implementing austerity measures since 2008, just out of interest?

another masterpiece of set design for the tories

pic.twitter.com/mHjUT7wCLO

— Chris Mandle (@chris_mandle) March 5, 2018

haha

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/011/301/ccd.jpg

Paddy Power have moved JRM ahead of Corbyn as favourite to be next PM (4/1) - WilliamHill still going with Corbyn

Other main difference is WilliamHill have pushed 2022 election right out to 9/1 - Paddy Power have it as 7/4 favourite

Ominously both say (2022...or later)

what odds will they give me on corbyn being taken out by the deep state long before 2022

these odds just reflect where the (not always smart) money is going though innit? What I don't understand is why is it that the oddschecker Most Popular Bets pie-chart shows half the money has been staked on 2018 election, but yet it isn't the fav.

I am going to stop saying that JRM would be an unmitigated disaster if he ran, cos the fucking UK electorate.

i'd like to think that even the uk electorate would balk at electing lord snooty as prime minister but yeah since a majority also voted to leave the eu i guess anything is possible in our current hellscape

Political odds making is meaningless, its just advertising to the big bookies, its such an infinitessimally small part of their business they don't care about getting it wrong, just grabbing attention

People walking off with those stubby biros is a bigger concern to bookmakers than political forecasting

multiple xps - all this means is that the bookies rate a Tory leadership change as being more likely than another snap election. It’s flawed thinking because for JRM to get through to the last two, you’d need the parliamentary party to vote him in and I’m not convinced he wouldn’t be blocked well before that stage. He’s more of a stalking horse imo.

i'd like to think that even the uk electorate would balk at electing lord snooty as prime minister but yeah since a majority also voted to leave the eu i guess anything is possible in our current hellscape

He only has to win the leadership challenge to be PM though, not election. Is more than feasible he wins a leadership bid and then loses the election

Point taken about political odds being not entirely meaningful, especially in light of events of the last few years, still interesting though!

they love a bit of strength allied to a decent modicum of stability does the UK electorate. JRM might just have that because he can ad-lib absolute fatuous bollocks in an upper rp accent on a number of subjects without getting interrupted.

I'm far from convinced JRM would even get through the Parliamentary nominations process for the Tories, and if another sufficiently Brexity candidate is on the ballot then he definitely won't.

A lot depends on whether May hangs on until 2019, if Britain has already left the EU by the time of the next contest it could be completely different. Then again they could find themselves with a very sudden collapse in support once Brexit is out of the way.

Soubry to pin Rees-Mogg in a steel cage match at this year's Tory conference: 14/1

so if not JRM, then who? Because I want a piece of those odds!

Johnson The Younger

Final 2, you’re looking at Rudd (nailed on imo) and a Brexiteer candidate. The parliamentary party can’t block all the candidates that they would likely wish to - Johnson, Gove, Rees-Mogg, whoever else throws their hat in - and the membership will go for the most Brexity option.