the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

Soubry to pin Rees-Mogg in a steel cage match at this year's Tory conference: 14/1

so if not JRM, then who? Because I want a piece of those odds!

Johnson The Younger

Final 2, you’re looking at Rudd (nailed on imo) and a Brexiteer candidate. The parliamentary party can’t block all the candidates that they would likely wish to - Johnson, Gove, Rees-Mogg, whoever else throws their hat in - and the membership will go for the most Brexity option.

Would've thought Rudd would have to win back several thousand of her own constituents first. Not as much of an issue for the usual suspects right now except Boris maybe.

Brexcitement

Johnson The Younger

― calzino, Monday,

Damn, you can't even get odds on this!

100/1 with Ladbrokes and Paddy power, shit I'm unwittingly turning into Ray Winstone here.

I think the Toby Young debacle might’ve hampered little Johnson but so might the nickname Little Johnson - fly, my pretties!

that Tory 2010 intake, what a golden generation!

a golden shower

100/1 with Ladbrokes and Paddy power, shit I'm unwittingly turning into Ray Winstone here.

― calzino, Monday

Oh yea saw that now - was looking in wrong list, PM list, not Tory boss list

Would've thought Rudd would have to win back several thousand of her own constituents first. Not as much of an issue for the usual suspects right now except Boris maybe.

This is true; it’s also true that they will move her to another seat (read somewhere last week that her team are looking for one). If there’s a GE, you would expect them to put her in some safe shire seat that becomes available. Similarly to Ruth Davidson, if she chooses to come south they’ll find a seat for her.

UK electorate is not going to vote for yet another Dolores Umbridge

I guess Davidson isn't quite the horrible schoolmarm. Hard to pin down what she is. Debate Club bloodhound

She’s a lot more palatable to swing voters than many of the options. They don’t have a unity candidate that exists, so it’s a case of MPs voting to keep their least preferred options out of the final two. Davidson and Rudd, incidentally, are both hugely unpopular with the membership - see the CH members’ polls: https://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2018/03/no-change-in-our-next-tory-leader-survey-rees-mogg-is-top-then-gove-then-johnson.html

If Davidson came south to find a safe Tory seat then that would be the end of her, credibility-wise. Can't really see her fitting in in Penge or somewhere.

penge is labour anyway

I think there's a safe Scottish seat in Dumfries.

I wonder how many ppl will be voting for their next leader, they've been very coy about their membership size for the last 5 years. Brandon Lewis was claiming is was impossible to count their numbers because it is handled by various local associations, lol!

Davidson's not listed in that CH poll, (not that I think she'd roar to the front or anything, but I can't imagine her placing below 10%)

She's not a Tory MP, that's why.

does she have to be?

(technically from a tory rules POV i mean, politically i assume it would be tricky: alec douglas hume wasn't an MP tho he was of course in the lords)

Tugendhat at 40/1 would be my bet.

A very popular politician...

She was encouraged by the Scottish Conservative Party's Director of Media Ramsay Jones[11] to join the party and stand for the House of Commons seat of Glasgow North East at the 2009 by-election, which was triggered by the resignation of Labour MP and Speaker of the House, Michael Martin. She finished in third place, with 1,075 votes and a 5.2% share of the vote; losing to Labour's candidate, Willie Bain.

She tried again unsuccessfully in the same constituency at the 2010 general election the following year, where she finished in fourth place with 1,569 votes and a 5.3% share of the vote.[12][13]

Then after coming a distant fourth in Glasgow Kelvin, Davidson was elected to the Scottish Parliament on the Glasgow region list.[20] After the election, she was appointed by Goldie as the Conservative spokesperson for Culture, Europe and External Relations.[4]

Goldie?

lol!

The Blue Peter dog, that's when the Tories in Scotland were having problems finding someone to lead the party.

Whew!

Made worse by the fact that the dog had died 25 years earlier.

only good Tory

Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale and Tweeddale is their only safe Scottish seat.

Tom Tugendhat is class of 2015, scandal-free and probably a lot more attractive to swing voters than many candidates more popular than the membership. However, you can imagine there’d be a lot of friction over anointing someone so new over names who’ve held Cabinet and ministerial positions. Sharivari’s not wrong about him - just not now, imo: https://www.conservativehome.com/highlights/2017/09/profile-tom-tugendhat-successful-insurgent-and-a-possible-future-tory-leader.html

From the same intake, James Cleverly is more popular with the party and with the membership, but I can’t see either of them getting to the final two, even with a split vote.

He seems like an almost sentient version of Dan Jarvis.

I'd already backed JRM at 10-1 last year, then put 20 on Thornberry at 50-1. Figured if JRM doesn't do a challenge and May lasts the distance and Corbyn cba in 2022...

Nor did he suffer the handicap of having been to Eton, which would have exposed him to the charge of being a toff. He was educated at St Paul’s School

Devout Catholic but Islamic Studies graduate and went to fight in the Middle East. Can we have one fucking leader who isn't a fucking Crusader

You guys are making me worry I've backed the wrong horsecunt

Having a PM who's a Catholic would be a first.

“He would be a much, much better candidate,” Rees-Mogg on Tuesday assured ConHome. “I’m a founder member of Tugmentum.”

ok please that become a word

Xp, first since 2007 certainly.

Admittedly St Paul's graduates not being thought of as toffs is good news for some of us

(digressive toff-adjacent info on alec douglas-home -- to spell him correctly this time -- and being a PM who's also a lord: House of Lords Reform )

(xxp) He wasn't a Catholic when he was PM, unless he was lying about when he became one... oh right, I see the flaw in that statement.

Mike Small

15 Things the Snow Taught Us:

1. Our food system is really fragile, broken, and dysfunctional on multiple levels. Some people have just realised this. We are Nine Meals from Anarchy. [http://neweconomics.org/2008/11/nine-meals-anarchy/]

2. People need a total immersive experience that affects everyone to come to their senses, to take a pause, to begin to notice.

3.There are things that are more fun than your phone.

4. Community isn’t dead and we long for more of it.

5. Some people are really selfish.

6. The rural world is different from the urban world.

7. Nature still exists.

8. Cities with a lot fewer cars would be much better places to live in.

9. People are quite annoying if you have to spend a lot of time with them.

10. The Zombie Apocalypse smells of Almond Milk.

11. Work isn’t everything.

12. Climate change isn’t something that will happen one day in the future.

13. Netflix isn’t as good as you thought.

14. We’re not in control of everything. We’re not really in control of anything.

15. We drink too much milk.

https://medium.com/@mik…/news-from-the-red-zone-ec1275807a4e

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTJ7AzBIJoI

3.There are things that are more fun than your phone.

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10. The Zombie Apocalypse smells of Almond Milk.

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13. Netflix isn’t as good as you thought.

lol what a cock

haha.

ok 1, 4, 12 & 14

are good.

fair tho did anyone think community WAS dead? (apart from mr "selfies are satan" here)