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Philip and Elizabeth are going to be upset when they find out who she really is.

clemenza, Thursday, 8 March 2018 14:08 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Like with Mad Men's final-season debut, took me about half the show to feel my way back into things, but good start. I was distracted by something on the stove during the long opening montage, so I was a little confused at times. The bed-ridden artist--is she the wife of the guy Elizabeth is running? Music seemed more prominent tonight than ever before. Could always do without Crowded House, Fleetwood Mac good of course. Jolting reminder of Elizabeth's survival instincts.

clemenza, Thursday, 29 March 2018 03:22 (six years ago) link

I don't know if the series will end in a Philip v. Elizabeth showdown or if there's just tension right now that will be resolved later, but it was inevitable that they'd be pitted against each other at some point. That's just good tv.

So glad Oleg is still here and serving a purpose.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 March 2018 04:22 (six years ago) link

Did no one besides the two of us realize this began again last night?

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 March 2018 17:27 (six years ago) link

I didn't much like Oleg when he first appeared (season 2?)--the character seemed kind of glib and breezy, not in sync with the tone of the show--but he's one of the best now.

clemenza, Thursday, 29 March 2018 18:51 (six years ago) link

Totally forgot this was back on!

Orwonty Nelson (latebloomer), Thursday, 29 March 2018 19:35 (six years ago) link

First episode was great. Oleg and Philip vs. Elizabeth and Claudia (and Paige?) is gonna be something.

My wife's theory is that Renee is spying on Stan for the FBI higher-ups, not for the Russians or anyone else.

grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 29 March 2018 22:26 (six years ago) link

I certainly didn't realize this started again! Got it lined up for tonight, stoked.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 30 March 2018 08:16 (six years ago) link

I loved chilled out 80s line-dancing inspirational-boss sports-dad Phillip vs insane stabbing motherfuckers in the neck Elizabeth. And I have no idea what Renee’s place in all this is but it’s got to be something interesting

joygoat, Friday, 30 March 2018 13:14 (six years ago) link

The line-dancing was great. I rewatched the opening montage online--spotted the guy who plays Frank Underwood's hapless VP on House of Cards for a second.

I'm going to use everything at my disposal to make sure I'm understanding all the plot intricacies this season. (I didn't fuss much over that as I watched the first five on DVD.) A couple of rundowns on the first episode:

http://tv.avclub.com/the-americans-final-season-begins-with-the-realization-1824147884
http://www.vox.com/culture/2018/3/28/17166094/the-americans-season-6-premiere-dead-hand-recap-philip-elizabeth

clemenza, Friday, 30 March 2018 13:18 (six years ago) link

there's no way this ends well for any of them right? i'm not ready to get my heart broken by this show. ;_;

Roz, Friday, 30 March 2018 13:56 (six years ago) link

A reminder that this is on tonight. (I'm mostly reminding myself here--remembering to tune in regularly to a TV show is a challenge these days.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 18:14 (six years ago) link

This was good - intense and bleak. I wasnt at all enamoured with the Crowded House montage - I cant stand that song - but the rest of the musical cues were utter joy. Especially the way "We do what we're told" slowly edged its way into the scene, til once the "we do what we're told, told to do" chant comes in and drowns out what the general is saying - I thought that was brilliant.

I dont know how they made Elizabeth look SO EXHAUSTED, but it worked.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 23:37 (six years ago) link

Glad I'm not the only person who hates that song (and them in general).

clemenza, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 23:54 (six years ago) link

Especially the way "We do what we're told" slowly edged its way into the scene, til once the "we do what we're told, told to do" chant comes in and drowns out what the general is saying - I thought that was brilliant.

Agreed! That's one of the best uses of outside music laid over a scene I've ever seen.

I dont know how they made Elizabeth look SO EXHAUSTED, but it worked.

At the very end? Yeah. I was like, "I've seen actors play exhausted before, but Keri Russell legit looks like she's been awake for 72 hours right now."

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 5 April 2018 00:14 (six years ago) link

Yeah in that last scene staring into the mirror. I felt that inhuman ruin.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 5 April 2018 03:23 (six years ago) link

Also this is a bit embarrassing but I went out and bought a copy of Remain In Light after this episode lol.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 5 April 2018 03:26 (six years ago) link

Tonight's was a little slow (until the last scene)? Donald Blythe has left the Underwood administration and work over at State now.

clemenza, Thursday, 5 April 2018 04:42 (six years ago) link

Havent seen that yet but speaking of such crossovers, Oleg has been on a few eps of Homeland this season basically playing the more ruthless Putin-era thug version of Oleg!

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 5 April 2018 04:55 (six years ago) link

(until the last scene)?

Yeah, but what an image.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 5 April 2018 05:04 (six years ago) link

Herschell Gordon Lewis would have loved it...Thinking about the last scene, though, would Elizabeth--who is generally meticulously careful--have left herself as vulnerable as she did? Maybe the idea, tying in with the exhaustion, is that she's starting to lose her edge. Like in The Godfather: "Let's face it, Tom, and with all due respect: the Don, rest in peace, was slippin'. Ten years ago--could I have gotten to him?"

clemenza, Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:26 (six years ago) link

I'll have to watch last night's again--I drifted off, tried again at 11:00, same problem. They always play the previous week before the new one.

From what I did see, didn't seem like a great episode, except for maybe the Stan-Oleg meeting.

clemenza, Thursday, 12 April 2018 14:23 (six years ago) link

Philip imagining a world where they could make classic russian meals and eat them with Stan at some day in the future was both naively optimistic and heartbreaking in the face of his dawning realization that Elizabeth is still completely locked in

alvin noto (mh), Thursday, 12 April 2018 14:45 (six years ago) link

Case in point: no recollection of that all...

clemenza, Thursday, 12 April 2018 19:22 (six years ago) link

xp I thought it was funny that they told each other they'd not spoken to anyone from back home in 20 years while they've both super secretly done that just in the last week or two.

This week's wasn't the most riveting episode I've ever seen, but the story is moving along at a pretty good clip this year vs. last year.

Sucks that Elizabeth has had to kill two unfortunate people at the end of the last two episodes all because they're trying to rush this operation and seem to be not very good at finding targets for her.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 13 April 2018 12:21 (six years ago) link

What do you make of Renee wanting to join the FBI? If she's Russian, that seems like a really clumsy attempt at infiltration--I'm guessing there's something more nuanced going on.

clemenza, Friday, 13 April 2018 14:20 (six years ago) link

It’s a prequel to her character from the X-Files

Orwonty Nelson (latebloomer), Friday, 13 April 2018 16:40 (six years ago) link

Thinking about the last scene, though, would Elizabeth--who is generally meticulously careful--have left herself as vulnerable as she did?

not really? she's done stuff like that loads of times

she only killed the guy because he told her his girlfriend worked for security

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Saturday, 14 April 2018 07:42 (six years ago) link

I was talking about the episode from two weeks ago--the scene in the park. It seemed unlikely to me she would walk into a situation where someone who was clearly wavering could simply pull a gun on her.

clemenza, Sunday, 15 April 2018 03:27 (six years ago) link

Ah ok

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Sunday, 15 April 2018 12:04 (six years ago) link

I'd forgotten about later should-have-been-betters like Man on the Moon and Larry Flynt. He was directing so infrequently they felt like events at the time, and Carrey and Harrelson were good. They just didn't seem to say with me for very long. The first produced a great song and video, though (not directed by Forman).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_JnCWT-_O8

clemenza, Sunday, 15 April 2018 13:47 (six years ago) link

Oops.

clemenza, Sunday, 15 April 2018 13:49 (six years ago) link

It seemed unlikely to me she would walk into a situation where someone who was clearly wavering could simply pull a gun on her.

Yeah I think they're trying to make it clear Elizabeth is being pushed too hard/fast for results due to the looming conference/dead hand shit and shes not taking the care with her turning people she normally would

BTW was that basically his brains splattered all over her face? It looked well grody.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 16 April 2018 01:07 (six years ago) link

late to this subject but just wanted to say i loved s05 and its episode after episode of philip and elizabeth staring miserably out of car windscreens. like a whole season of Abba's The Visitors. Probably helped that we watched the whole season in like a week, though - can understand it must have felt excruciating watching it week-to-week.

this season is blitzing past, so strong. elizabeth is just disintegrating before our eyes. s05 feels like the slow crawl before s06's rollercoaster dive.

is anyone going to make it out of this series alive?

Lou Grant, the Iranian cinema of late '70s TV (stevie), Monday, 16 April 2018 21:50 (six years ago) link

It'll be funny if the only person who dies is Henry, in some freak hockey accident.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 16 April 2018 23:00 (six years ago) link

Elizabeth's been shown to kill anyone who gets in the way of the mission. I wonder if she'll end up killing Phillip?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 16 April 2018 23:21 (six years ago) link

xpost lolll

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 16 April 2018 23:22 (six years ago) link

I've long thought the series would come to an end with a standoff between the two of them.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 16 April 2018 23:22 (six years ago) link

Def getting a scene with Philip Stan and Oleg, right?

DJI, Monday, 16 April 2018 23:24 (six years ago) link

Stan putting the pieces together is one of the things I'm looking forward to the most.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 16 April 2018 23:26 (six years ago) link

Yeah I think Renee is some kind of FBI/CIA shadow keeping tabs on Stan since his Oleg bromance. She'll follow Oleg one day and see him with Phillip, and boom.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 16 April 2018 23:27 (six years ago) link

Maybe they'll skip forward to 2016 for an epilogue where Paige meets up with George Papadopoulos. I don't know how it will end--in a more general sense, whether it will be a dark ending or something that resembles Philip/Elizabeth/Stan/Oleg turning the page and moving on.

clemenza, Monday, 16 April 2018 23:43 (six years ago) link

They're making it exceedingly clear that Elizabeth will not live happily in the US into her golden years. She'll either be in prison, back in the USSR, or dead.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 16 April 2018 23:57 (six years ago) link

back in the USSR

as foretold by The Beatles.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 16 April 2018 23:58 (six years ago) link

Loving this season so far but the only thing that bothers me slightly is that they haven't given themselves enough time to tie up all the loose ends. What about Kimmy? What about Pastor Tim? What about Martha? What about Philip's son?

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 13:34 (six years ago) link

Kimmy isn't really a loose end and can easily be explained away or never mentioned again. Pastor Tim has been farmed out to South America so ditto really. Martha I wholly expect to appear at some point.

Philip's son is the one that feels like a misstep and could just be quietly forgotten, but he could equally be the hand grenade the blows up Philip and Elizabeth's marriage and illusions altogether.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 13:43 (six years ago) link

Yeah I guess you're right about Kimmy and Pastor Tim. I thought the omission of Kimmy was strange given that she (or rather her dad) was the entire reason why they stayed in the US at the end of the last season, but then I keep forgetting that we've now jumped three years ahead in time.

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 13:58 (six years ago) link

I feel like the real 'oh shit' moment was Philip and Oleg finally meeting. If Stan can turn him Oleg then that's a direct line to Philip and Elizabeth and then the whole thing blows up.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 14:09 (six years ago) link

Feel like the defection of Gennadi is going to play a part too, but who knows.

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 14:34 (six years ago) link

If the show ends with some sort of present-day scene I kind of want somebody to end up as a shady oligarch

joygoat, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 15:36 (six years ago) link


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