Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

i love it

ha wow that's fucking great

seriously?

that's amazing.

makes u think

https://i.redd.it/zkgq9qcq9kk01.png

Now if he'd said David Platt from Coronation Street...

lmao @ "same ideas"

Sherri Pomeroy told us that Ussery and Mann were apprehended when they went onto church property, painted on a memorial poster, and screamed obscenities at her husband, Pastor Frank Pomeroy. The pair, along with many other conspiracy theorists, believe that the Pomeroys’ 14-year-old daughter Annabelle — who was among 26 people killed in the massacre — never existed, and that the incident was a “false flag” or crisis manufactured by the government for the purpose of seizing guns and power.

Sherri Pomeroy told us, “It’s been ongoing, almost from the first day it happened. They call it a drill from Homeland Security and say that none of it happened.”

Her husband told the Express-News that Ussery had threatened him and that he “… continually yelled and screamed and hollered and told me he was gonna hang me from a tree, and pee on me while I’m hanging.”
from https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/03/06/conspiracy-theorists-arrested-harassing-sutherland-springs-pastor/

Good luck, America.

Pomeroy told the newspaper that the pair tried to bait him and the church member into doing something stupid.

Ussery "screamed and hollered and told me he was gonna hang me from a tree, and pee on me while I'm hanging," he said.

Is this about the pizza and pedophilia again?

Nah, there have been false flag claims for years, at least since Sandy Hook - they don’t need paedophilia as an excuse when they have the government taking away their guns.

Sandy Hook was the first time I started seeing them en masse.

to think, the bullshit urban legends when I grew up were that Mountain Dew decreased your sperm count

now we have people screaming at still-grieving parents that their dead kid never existed

hell if you read the Boston Marathon bombing thread on this site, you'll see comments where Alex Jones was calling it a 'false flag' before any official explanation of what happened had even come out from officials

I feel like with a lot of this current false flag stuff you can draw a line back to Waco and the conspiracy theories about the ATF victimizing and burning the innocent gun hoarding BDs.

i think that's more of a JFK-type conspiracy theory, the real shit started with 9/11 and the twin towers being brought down by either explosive charges planted in the buildings or by lasers.

worth a read, although it doesn't go into the history of the term being co-opted by lunatics:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag

I feel like with a lot of this current false flag stuff you can draw a line back to Waco and the conspiracy theories about the ATF victimizing and burning the innocent gun hoarding BDs.

― President Keyes, Thursday, March 8, 2018 1:25 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

uhhh. i don't think you have to be a conspiracy theorist to think that maybe the waco siege could have been handled a lot better

Around the era of Loose Change which was you know, at least a properly made film despite all the craziness in it, i used to think 'Jeez wtf comes after THIS?' and it was the likes of pizzagate and the Sandy Hook theories. Then you can't help but think 'Well what's going to top THIS?' The comments under this clip provide the answer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl_NpdAy3WY

looool

The one that got me was the Bernstein bears, even my auto correct knows it's an E. I distinctly remember pronouncing it Stein, because of Albert Einstein until my teacher told me it was wrong and it was pronounced "Steen" but I couldn't grasp that concept, we'll because of Einstein lol I never let that go. I would have never pronounced Stain wrong, wine stain, grass stain and so forth. I was always 2 grade levels ahead of the class when it came to reading. Fast forward to now and there's an A???? And it's ALWAYS been that way ??? No deal man I refuse to believe that.. Right in my childhood.

some discussion here: List conspiracy theories here.

wait til he finds out about the coverup w/r/t the real spelling

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61USjVOaY5L._SX258_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

This hasn’t been reported anywhere, I think it just happened. Look for yourself or check out this quick video (quote is at 0:30 mark)

https://youtu.be/dLVIWNjZKiE

So to recap (because I’m not trying to promote my video) it was
You like me, you really really like me
Then it went
You like me, right now, you like me
Now it’s:
You like me, right now, YOU’LL like me
Just wanted to tell the real ones here

omar little
Posted: March 8, 2018 at 4:26:57 PM
i think that's more of a JFK-type conspiracy theory, the real shit started with 9/11 and the twin towers being brought down by either explosive charges planted in the buildings or by lasers.

OTM. 9/11 spec provided the synaptic template for all this shit. It had to wait for Web 2.0 to really spread its seed but it was the real game changer

What exactly is the qualitative difference between JFK conspiracy theories and 9/11 truthers, now?

9/11 truthers more likely to imply or outright allege the involvement of tens of thousands of co-conspirators.

+ the idea that there is enough legit dark business involving the mob, Castro, Hoover, JFK et al that through sheer noise one can cobble together some conceivable narrative, whereas 9/11 theories typically involve weird science, fake missing people, trick photography etc

the only plausible 9/11 conspiracy theory I’ve come across is that they knew & let it happen as a means to get into the Middle East. I still don’t buy it. Loose Change sucks though, it gets into the whole controlled demolition bullshit. Jet fuel/steel beams is an awful & offensive meme and also stupid.

JFK has, as Simon said, fewer players & is more plausible- also there’s more conspicuously weird shit like Jack Ruby that can’t be explained w/o mob involvement imo. You’ve got motives, means, that one makes sense.

What's interesting about the new mob is there's no theory or need to supply a narrative whatsoever, it's just 'I remember it being spelt Berenstein so it's been changed, we must be living in a parallel universe now and that's the end of it'. The era when you had to find a way to blame it on Castro or lasers or aliens or w/e is vanishing.

Loose Change sucks though

I have a good Loose Change story that got excelsior'd at some point. fuck that movie

ha i'd like to hear it

pisces: we're living in an accelerated world. the disruption of tech & ubiquitous entertainment & voices & views can't be overstated imo. 9/11 destroyed the fundaments of the world we knew, the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan further eroded our faith in government, and then the 2008 crash left millions of people poor & angry. I think Gen Z is poised to be a significant force in politics & culture & being able to change the world for the better, because all of this stuff that we've lived through that prevented us from being able to plant our feet on the ground and get our bearings - that's their normal. It's all native to them, and they're not paralyzed by it like millennials & Gen X. Consider the press that both generations I mentioned got: lazy, entitled, feckless, narcissistic, arrogant, and insecure. Gen Z's first press? A fucking march on Washington for gun control. My point is that the unhinged are victims of hyper acceleration that's unprecedented in human history. Unless another crisis that destroys our coordinates occurs (a nuke strike, major cities destroyed by superstorms), I have faith that Gen Z is going to come into this crazy fucked up world and be able to fix it because it's what they're used to, their 'normal,' even though it's nothing of the sort.

my god when this or the SCOTUS thread get revived I tremble before clicking

lol yea we have drifted a bit off topic

i'm just bummed that stan & jan's son turned the berenstain bears into christian propaganda

it is weird tho isnt it. "berenstain." doesn't look right

*redpills self, fires up YouTube*

I agree that tech makes these theories fly around faster now, and draws in more people, but the infowars false flaggers just seem the same to me as the morons back in the 90s who went looking on the backs of railroad crossing signs for secret messages to the UN troops Clinton was inviting in to take over America.

I wonder (IE this is almost certainly bollocks) whether an increased belief in large-scale conspiracy theories is influenced by increased awareness of actual large-scale conspiracies, less Stonecutters-style centralisation than 'everyone knows but no-one says' that ensure that, say, African Americans are generally getting the worst end of the economy whether it's up or down, or women have been vulnerable whatever their level of fame.

the first time i heard the 'various sports stadiums around the country are being quietly eminent domained by FEMA to serve as future concentration camps' story in 2002 it was from a middle aged african american guy in Atlanta. He also told me about how blood pressure medicines were deliberately formulated to reduce male libido and thereby ensure continuous reduction in African-American population.

i remember digesting it similarly to what you just described, asking myself 'if i had lived your life,would i be so confident that this is paranoia'?

Andrew otm.

Per Alfred's point, I kinda wonder if we couldn't migrate general gun control conversation to the gun control thread. It really does feel dreadful and shitty to see this thread constantly floating to the top of SNA.

plus, just wait a week or month and it'll rise to the top of the thread because of the news, anyway (also dreadful and shitty.)

xp agreed

This thread might also be good for some of this discussion: conspiracy theories that ended up being true

#BREAKING UPDATE: Active shooter reported at veterans home in Yountville. Shots reportedly fired near main dining hall. https://t.co/HUYTeBbxSF [Photo: @NapaRegister] pic.twitter.com/3JqLzkP2J1

— NBC Bay Area (@nbcbayarea) March 9, 2018

hostages, jesus

That's right across the freeway from The French Laundry.

holy shit :(