Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

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The one that got me was the Bernstein bears, even my auto correct knows it's an E. I distinctly remember pronouncing it Stein, because of Albert Einstein until my teacher told me it was wrong and it was pronounced "Steen" but I couldn't grasp that concept, we'll because of Einstein lol I never let that go. I would have never pronounced Stain wrong, wine stain, grass stain and so forth. I was always 2 grade levels ahead of the class when it came to reading. Fast forward to now and there's an A???? And it's ALWAYS been that way ??? No deal man I refuse to believe that.. Right in my childhood.

Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 8 March 2018 23:12 (six years ago) link

some discussion here: List conspiracy theories here.

the late great, Thursday, 8 March 2018 23:20 (six years ago) link

wait til he finds out about the coverup w/r/t the real spelling

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61USjVOaY5L._SX258_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

omar little, Thursday, 8 March 2018 23:21 (six years ago) link

This hasn’t been reported anywhere, I think it just happened. Look for yourself or check out this quick video (quote is at 0:30 mark)

https://youtu.be/dLVIWNjZKiE

So to recap (because I’m not trying to promote my video) it was
You like me, you really really like me
Then it went
You like me, right now, you like me
Now it’s:
You like me, right now, YOU’LL like me
Just wanted to tell the real ones here

omar little, Thursday, 8 March 2018 23:24 (six years ago) link

omar little
Posted: March 8, 2018 at 4:26:57 PM
i think that's more of a JFK-type conspiracy theory, the real shit started with 9/11 and the twin towers being brought down by either explosive charges planted in the buildings or by lasers.


OTM. 9/11 spec provided the synaptic template for all this shit. It had to wait for Web 2.0 to really spread its seed but it was the real game changer

Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Friday, 9 March 2018 00:38 (six years ago) link

What exactly is the qualitative difference between JFK conspiracy theories and 9/11 truthers, now?

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 9 March 2018 01:07 (six years ago) link

9/11 truthers more likely to imply or outright allege the involvement of tens of thousands of co-conspirators.

Simon H., Friday, 9 March 2018 01:22 (six years ago) link

+ the idea that there is enough legit dark business involving the mob, Castro, Hoover, JFK et al that through sheer noise one can cobble together some conceivable narrative, whereas 9/11 theories typically involve weird science, fake missing people, trick photography etc

Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 9 March 2018 01:29 (six years ago) link

the only plausible 9/11 conspiracy theory I’ve come across is that they knew & let it happen as a means to get into the Middle East. I still don’t buy it. Loose Change sucks though, it gets into the whole controlled demolition bullshit. Jet fuel/steel beams is an awful & offensive meme and also stupid.

flappy bird, Friday, 9 March 2018 01:33 (six years ago) link

JFK has, as Simon said, fewer players & is more plausible- also there’s more conspicuously weird shit like Jack Ruby that can’t be explained w/o mob involvement imo. You’ve got motives, means, that one makes sense.

flappy bird, Friday, 9 March 2018 01:34 (six years ago) link

What's interesting about the new mob is there's no theory or need to supply a narrative whatsoever, it's just 'I remember it being spelt Berenstein so it's been changed, we must be living in a parallel universe now and that's the end of it'. The era when you had to find a way to blame it on Castro or lasers or aliens or w/e is vanishing.

piscesx, Friday, 9 March 2018 01:39 (six years ago) link

Loose Change sucks though

I have a good Loose Change story that got excelsior'd at some point. fuck that movie

Simon H., Friday, 9 March 2018 01:45 (six years ago) link

ha i'd like to hear it

pisces: we're living in an accelerated world. the disruption of tech & ubiquitous entertainment & voices & views can't be overstated imo. 9/11 destroyed the fundaments of the world we knew, the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan further eroded our faith in government, and then the 2008 crash left millions of people poor & angry. I think Gen Z is poised to be a significant force in politics & culture & being able to change the world for the better, because all of this stuff that we've lived through that prevented us from being able to plant our feet on the ground and get our bearings - that's their normal. It's all native to them, and they're not paralyzed by it like millennials & Gen X. Consider the press that both generations I mentioned got: lazy, entitled, feckless, narcissistic, arrogant, and insecure. Gen Z's first press? A fucking march on Washington for gun control. My point is that the unhinged are victims of hyper acceleration that's unprecedented in human history. Unless another crisis that destroys our coordinates occurs (a nuke strike, major cities destroyed by superstorms), I have faith that Gen Z is going to come into this crazy fucked up world and be able to fix it because it's what they're used to, their 'normal,' even though it's nothing of the sort.

flappy bird, Friday, 9 March 2018 02:35 (six years ago) link

my god when this or the SCOTUS thread get revived I tremble before clicking

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 March 2018 02:36 (six years ago) link

lol yea we have drifted a bit off topic

flappy bird, Friday, 9 March 2018 02:41 (six years ago) link

i'm just bummed that stan & jan's son turned the berenstain bears into christian propaganda

had (crüt), Friday, 9 March 2018 03:50 (six years ago) link

it is weird tho isnt it. "berenstain." doesn't look right

flappy bird, Friday, 9 March 2018 05:47 (six years ago) link

*redpills self, fires up YouTube*

Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Friday, 9 March 2018 12:41 (six years ago) link

I agree that tech makes these theories fly around faster now, and draws in more people, but the infowars false flaggers just seem the same to me as the morons back in the 90s who went looking on the backs of railroad crossing signs for secret messages to the UN troops Clinton was inviting in to take over America.

President Keyes, Friday, 9 March 2018 13:49 (six years ago) link

I wonder (IE this is almost certainly bollocks) whether an increased belief in large-scale conspiracy theories is influenced by increased awareness of actual large-scale conspiracies, less Stonecutters-style centralisation than 'everyone knows but no-one says' that ensure that, say, African Americans are generally getting the worst end of the economy whether it's up or down, or women have been vulnerable whatever their level of fame.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 9 March 2018 15:41 (six years ago) link

the first time i heard the 'various sports stadiums around the country are being quietly eminent domained by FEMA to serve as future concentration camps' story in 2002 it was from a middle aged african american guy in Atlanta. He also told me about how blood pressure medicines were deliberately formulated to reduce male libido and thereby ensure continuous reduction in African-American population.

Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Friday, 9 March 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link

i remember digesting it similarly to what you just described, asking myself 'if i had lived your life,would i be so confident that this is paranoia'?

Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Friday, 9 March 2018 17:06 (six years ago) link

Andrew otm.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 9 March 2018 17:09 (six years ago) link

Per Alfred's point, I kinda wonder if we couldn't migrate general gun control conversation to the gun control thread. It really does feel dreadful and shitty to see this thread constantly floating to the top of SNA.

Wine Ape (Old Lunch), Friday, 9 March 2018 17:15 (six years ago) link

plus, just wait a week or month and it'll rise to the top of the thread because of the news, anyway (also dreadful and shitty.)

xp agreed

sleeve, Friday, 9 March 2018 17:17 (six years ago) link

This thread might also be good for some of this discussion: conspiracy theories that ended up being true

Doctor Casino, Friday, 9 March 2018 19:58 (six years ago) link

#BREAKING UPDATE: Active shooter reported at veterans home in Yountville. Shots reportedly fired near main dining hall. https://t.co/HUYTeBbxSF [Photo: @NapaRegister] pic.twitter.com/3JqLzkP2J1

— NBC Bay Area (@nbcbayarea) March 9, 2018

mookieproof, Friday, 9 March 2018 20:18 (six years ago) link

hostages, jesus

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 9 March 2018 20:39 (six years ago) link

That's right across the freeway from The French Laundry.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 9 March 2018 20:46 (six years ago) link

holy shit :(

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 9 March 2018 21:12 (six years ago) link

more info on the shooter

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 9 March 2018 22:07 (six years ago) link

not much info on the hostages

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 9 March 2018 22:07 (six years ago) link

pres conference confirmed 3 hostages

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 9 March 2018 22:08 (six years ago) link

Very sad to read that all three hostages are dead. Their killer also took his own life.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 10 March 2018 03:46 (six years ago) link

jesus

mookieproof, Saturday, 10 March 2018 04:01 (six years ago) link

A veteran, yet again. "Service" is a reliable cofactor for this mayhem.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 10 March 2018 04:03 (six years ago) link

oh god how tragic.
i read that the veteran had been asked to leave the program he’d been getting treatment from, and that the hostages were employees and part of that specific program.
i’m guessing that was one of a number of contributing stressors to set this off.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 10 March 2018 04:07 (six years ago) link

i guess he originally took 5 hostages & released 2? i can’t imagine how they are feeling now

more details here
https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Active-shooter-reported-at-Yountville-veterans-12741622.php

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 10 March 2018 04:12 (six years ago) link

man. horrible.

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Saturday, 10 March 2018 04:12 (six years ago) link

gunman was only 36.
everything about this is just awful.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 10 March 2018 04:49 (six years ago) link

The women who were murdered today in #Yountville have been identified:
-Dr. Jen Golick, therapist
-Dr. Jen Gonzalez, psychologist
-Dr. Christine Loeber, Executive Director of the Pathways program https://t.co/Grf1OFCsSo pic.twitter.com/fJZKiREOjs

— 𝙹𝚞𝚕𝚒𝚎 (@resisterhood) March 10, 2018

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 10 March 2018 07:15 (six years ago) link

God dammit

when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 10 March 2018 13:43 (six years ago) link

Just found out that my friend and former neighbor’s cousin was the psychologist who was killed.

joygoat, Sunday, 11 March 2018 01:48 (six years ago) link

as expected, florida will seek to kill Nikolas Cruz. there are already 347 other people who are scheduled to be murdered by the state, though, so everyone is going to have to wait a while before killing another person makes everyone else feel better.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/13/us/nikolas-cruz-death-penalty.html

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:01 (six years ago) link

if you'll excuse me i have to get back to watching my 24/7 stream of animals fighting each other while i snarl and gnaw at a synthetic rope toy

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:02 (six years ago) link

Get it up to 365 and you could legally kill, one day at a time, for a year, huzzah!

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:04 (six years ago) link

great idea! what the US needs to do is go ahead and clear out the backlog of hundreds of people on deathrow, maybe in a public place where large crowds of civilians can gather around and witness the awe-inspiring power of the state. then we can go ahead and just kill one person a day. since we don't care enough about spree shootings to try to prevent them, we should soon have enough mass murderers queued up to kill one off in prime time, every night.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:08 (six years ago) link

http://www.thestate.com/news/local/crime/article205168669.html

how's life, Thursday, 15 March 2018 12:06 (six years ago) link


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