Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

Andrew otm.

Per Alfred's point, I kinda wonder if we couldn't migrate general gun control conversation to the gun control thread. It really does feel dreadful and shitty to see this thread constantly floating to the top of SNA.

plus, just wait a week or month and it'll rise to the top of the thread because of the news, anyway (also dreadful and shitty.)

xp agreed

This thread might also be good for some of this discussion: conspiracy theories that ended up being true

#BREAKING UPDATE: Active shooter reported at veterans home in Yountville. Shots reportedly fired near main dining hall. https://t.co/HUYTeBbxSF [Photo: @NapaRegister] pic.twitter.com/3JqLzkP2J1

— NBC Bay Area (@nbcbayarea) March 9, 2018

hostages, jesus

That's right across the freeway from The French Laundry.

holy shit :(

https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Active-shooter-reported-at-Yountville-veterans-12741622.php

more info on the shooter

not much info on the hostages

pres conference confirmed 3 hostages

Very sad to read that all three hostages are dead. Their killer also took his own life.

jesus

A veteran, yet again. "Service" is a reliable cofactor for this mayhem.

oh god how tragic.
i read that the veteran had been asked to leave the program he’d been getting treatment from, and that the hostages were employees and part of that specific program.
i’m guessing that was one of a number of contributing stressors to set this off.

i guess he originally took 5 hostages & released 2? i can’t imagine how they are feeling now

more details here
https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Active-shooter-reported-at-Yountville-veterans-12741622.php

man. horrible.

gunman was only 36.
everything about this is just awful.

The women who were murdered today in #Yountville have been identified:
-Dr. Jen Golick, therapist
-Dr. Jen Gonzalez, psychologist
-Dr. Christine Loeber, Executive Director of the Pathways program https://t.co/Grf1OFCsSo pic.twitter.com/fJZKiREOjs

— 𝙹𝚞𝚕𝚒𝚎 (@resisterhood) March 10, 2018

God dammit

Just found out that my friend and former neighbor’s cousin was the psychologist who was killed.

as expected, florida will seek to kill Nikolas Cruz. there are already 347 other people who are scheduled to be murdered by the state, though, so everyone is going to have to wait a while before killing another person makes everyone else feel better.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/13/us/nikolas-cruz-death-penalty.html

if you'll excuse me i have to get back to watching my 24/7 stream of animals fighting each other while i snarl and gnaw at a synthetic rope toy

Get it up to 365 and you could legally kill, one day at a time, for a year, huzzah!

great idea! what the US needs to do is go ahead and clear out the backlog of hundreds of people on deathrow, maybe in a public place where large crowds of civilians can gather around and witness the awe-inspiring power of the state. then we can go ahead and just kill one person a day. since we don't care enough about spree shootings to try to prevent them, we should soon have enough mass murderers queued up to kill one off in prime time, every night.

http://www.thestate.com/news/local/crime/article205168669.html

Dylan Roof's little sister arrested.

in addition to all the obvious ways this is horrifying, it's also horrifying that the educational system is such that kids would rather be literally beaten than take the chance -- even a small chance, given that most colleges have said it won't affect admissions -- of not getting into college

My kid and two other students walked out of their rural, very conservative, public school for 17 minutes today. They were given two punishment options. They chose corporal punishment. This generation is not playing around. #walkout

— Jerusalem Greer (@JerusalemGreer) March 14, 2018

Jesus Christ I had no idea corporal punishment was still legal in 22 states.

I didn't realize how widespread corporal punishment in public schools still was.

"more than 167,000 students were paddled in the 2011-2012 school year in American public schools.[152]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_corporal_punishment#United_States

Conservatives: 'we want smaller government! but the state should be allowed to beat children'

The land of the free to beat kids

Have noticed a few comment sections of news articles in the past week that have been overrun by republicans smearing the protest kids as "bullies". It was those protesters who drove the shooters to kill by bullying them, you see, and now they're being hypocrites by asking stop the violence. I'm certain that a few years ago when schools were really starting to make huge strides in anti-bullying initiatives that you would find these same republicans arguing that back in their day kids didn't need to be mollycoddled and this nonsense is all the result of helicopter parents who need to teach their kids to grow a spine.

yeah it makes no sense, the only winning move is not to ever read the comments on anything ever

Yeah, I know that and I usually do not enter there. I just wanted to point out their cute little change of heart about bullying.

sorry guys, but this one's been blown wide open

https://www.facebook.com/james.h.fetzer/videos/10156040035767978/?hc_location=ufi

Yeah, I know that and I usually do not enter there. I just wanted to point out their cute little change of heart about bullying.

― how's life

"heart"

School shooting in St. Mary's County Maryland. Not much known at the moment.

https://wtop.com/maryland/2018/03/shooting-reported-high-school-st-marys-co/

Not a spree but police claim a person with shotgun held to someone's head in a Panera Bread in Princeton, NJ:

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2018/03/man_with_gun_reported_at_eatery_near_princeton_uni.html

I can relate

looks like the armed officer actually worked this time

NRA rushed out a video bragging about it on the same day. Not too soon to politicize that tragedy!

hmm, shooter wasn't a teacher, he wasn't hiding outside with two other officers, perpetrator had a handgun and not an AR-15, obv we found the solution that will work in all situations, good going guys.

https://www.statesman.com/news/crime--law/updated-bombing-suspect-mark-conditt-wrote-political-views-blog/CQUCcXNJ9nb2iFs8sSq0pK/

In 2012, when he was 17 years old, Austin bombing suspect Mark A. Conditt laid out his political views in a series of blog posts he wrote for an Austin Community College course on U.S. government.

In the posts, Conditt takes conservative stances on a variety of issues. He wrote that he was against gay marriage and abortion and in favor of the death penalty.

On abortion, he wrote: “First, if a women does not want a baby, or is incapable of taking care of one, she should not participate in activities that were made for that reason. Second, if we are going to give women free abortions, why not give men free condoms, or the like? Is it not up to the couple to take these preventive measures?”

Arguing against gay marriage, he wrote that homosexuality is “not natural.”

“Just look at the male and female bodies. They are obviously designed to couple. The natural design is apparent. It is not natural to couple male with male and female with female. It would be like trying to fit two screws together and to nuts together and then say, “See, it’s natural for them to go together.”

On the death penalty, he wrote, “Living criminals harm and murder, again - executed ones do not.”

if u kill a killer...there is still the same # of killers in this world...

Reagan's dead and his policies are still killing ppl