This life's HARD man, but it's HARDER if you're stupid! aka CRIME/MYSTERY/THRILLER/NOIR movie POLL nominations thread

make it a trilogy ill rep for minority report all day

rewatched last year, enjoyed.

the 39 steps

Night and the City
Laura

Ace in the Hole
The Big Clock
The Breaking Point
Double Indemnity
I Confess
Jackie Brown
Key Largo
Sweet Smell of Success
Sunset Blvd.
Taxi Driver

My idea of a true '70s noir, as much or even more than The Long Goodbye or Chinatown or Night Moves: The Conversation.

The Musketeers of Pig Alley (1912)
Underworld (1927)
The Docks of New York (1928)
Thunderbolt (1929)
Asphalt (1929)
The Informer (1929)
Private Detective 62 (1933)
Woman in the Dark (1934)
Fury (1936)
They Drive by Night (UK, 1938)
Le Jour Se Leve (1938)
Panama Lady (1939)
Stranger on the Third Floor (1940)

Family Plot

control F Frenzy, nope.

Frenzy

A lot of the (often deservedly) better-known choices already made here, but don't sleep on this:

Act of Violence---1948, dir. Fred Zinneman, starring Robert Ryan, Van Heflin, Janet Leigh, Phyllis Thaxter, and Mary Astor. (In her autobiography, A Life on Film, Astor recalled filming her scenes for Act of Violence while simultaneously shooting Little Women: "For two weeks or so I was with the Zinnemann company playing a sleazy, aging whore, with Van Heflin and Robert Ryan. It was such a contrast that it was stimulating---and reviving...." Thanks, TCM.com!). Shit you can't take back, no matter how much you pay, in a star-spangled postwar suburban way or otherwise---crisis of the intractable, locked gears, friction grips, film fucking noir. (I got a bit tired of the earnest running around that Leigh, Astor, and Thaxter have to do, but the guys do it too, in a grimmer way, all in the maze.)

― dow, Thursday, July 6, 2017

That's from Last (X) Movies You Saw, which I think is also where forks and I got into a discussion of Nightmare Alley, go watch it now.

man, ONE FALSE MOVE! i haven't thought of that movie in so long and now i really need to see it. wow. and THE LAST SEDUCTION too. just the first post in this thread has me scrambling.

Cynda Williams!

i watched GUN CRAZY three times last year.

yes, Cynda! man. so great.

All the President's Men, because of the garage-freak--minus him, maybe not.

there are really too many good movies mentioned on this thread. would be too hard to make a definitive list.

So many things to watch. So little time.

so many sterling hayden movies...

kinda feel like film noir should have its own poll. so many amazing movies.

oh, gun crazy is on filmstruck. here we go!

best movie ever.

i mean i'm not even french and i kinda think it's perfect.

Kiss Kiss Bang Bang
The Spanish Prisoner

Perfect Blue

Yojimbo?

What nails me in this neck of the woods is the struggle with a sense of guilt, however inchoate/bone deep, your own and someone else's, probably several somebodies, who are a lotta trouble (not like you got time to crawl off and get your head straight/penance on). Which includes the two I just mentioned, and also Clash By Night---no gangsters etc., but so much torture of self and others---b-but they can't help it! Or can they? Senses of personal motherfucking responsibility (except for cute little old uncle who goes on a demented glee spree of tongue-wagging)
xpost Blade Runner goes even deeper: don't tell me what you did, what are you, man? Can you tell me that?

Brick
Hard Candy

In No Country For Old Men and Get Carter, it's all somebody else's fault, but visionary vengeance quests take personal responsibility so far that body parts could end up scuttling across the road to the next reckoning, if the movies went on a little longer. Bardem's character has tracked his shit down, killed the guilty etc. parties, why the wife too, she asks him. He promised her husband he would, he explains dutifully, quietly-sadly? Maybe deferentially, for she is part of the price that must be paid. Carter is HS-HAAAA, he'd never say anything like this, but he's payin' it forward too.

So anyway here's my ballot so far, just in the order they come to mind:
Nightmare Alley
Blade Runner
No Country For Old Men
Get Carter
Chinatown
Clash By Night
The Postman Always Rings Twice (all three versions prob, although been a while since I've seen the Italian)
Detour
Act of Violence
In A Lonely Place
Vertigo
Taxi Driver

HA-HAAAA, that should be.

Homicide (the Mamet film from 1991)
Red Rock West
The American Friend
Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia
The Getaway (1972)

Has anybody else seen Hit Man, the Blaxploitation version of Get Carter released the next year w/Bernie Casey & Pam Grier?

https://www.grindhousedatabase.com/images/Hit_man_insert.jpg

Thieves' Highway

Casino
Across 110th Street
Straight Time
The Seven-Ups
Prime Cut
The Outfit
The Driver
Blue Collar
Klute
The Onion Field
The Laughing Policeman
The Yakuza

Wanna see Hit Man! What is Thieves' Highway about?? Good title.

Oh yeah and also for my ballot: Salesman, which seemingly totally makes sense as an Iranian situation today, but also so very true in so many places and times that ya don't think first (or maybe at all) of calling the cops, calling any Authoritah.

Pitfall
Murder, My Sweet

xp Thieves' Highway: guy comes home from the war to find that his father has been crippled by a shady underworld character, guy vows revenge. From about five minutes into the film it's just absolutely relentless tension.

I don't watch that many movies but it's one of my favorites fwiw.

oh man, Laughing Policeman is so good. Gotta find a way to rewatch that soon.

Liked the Outfit too -- one of the better Parker adaptations.

I love the story Jules Dassin shares on the Thieves Highway CC disc about how (supporting player) Jack Oakie had become deaf (during the war?), but nobody knew because as a result he became such an expert lip-reader.

gonna watch night moves again now i guess.

man, i gotta watch cutter's way again soon too.

probably a bunch of repeats here, sorry:

Snake Eyes
The Fugitive
Das Boot
Paper Moon
The Hunt For Red October
Shaft (1971)
The French Connection
Port of Shadows
Dead Calm
Batman Returns
A Fish Called Wanda
The In-Laws
Clue
The Third Man
Dial M For Murder
The Poseidon Adventure
Subway
The Wages of Fear
Johnny Dangerously

A couple of helpful Letterboxd lists:

Classic Noir
Neo-Noir

dead mans shoes
red riding 1980

The Two Jakes

can i get a ruling on Who Framed Roger Rabbit?

crime noir mystery def

Violent Cop
Boiling Point
Sonatine
Hana-bi

The Offence

Hell is a City
The Criminal
Robbery