This life's HARD man, but it's HARDER if you're stupid! aka CRIME/MYSTERY/THRILLER/NOIR movie POLL nominations thread

kinda feel like film noir should have its own poll. so many amazing movies.

oh, gun crazy is on filmstruck. here we go!

best movie ever.

i mean i'm not even french and i kinda think it's perfect.

Kiss Kiss Bang Bang
The Spanish Prisoner

Perfect Blue

Yojimbo?

What nails me in this neck of the woods is the struggle with a sense of guilt, however inchoate/bone deep, your own and someone else's, probably several somebodies, who are a lotta trouble (not like you got time to crawl off and get your head straight/penance on). Which includes the two I just mentioned, and also Clash By Night---no gangsters etc., but so much torture of self and others---b-but they can't help it! Or can they? Senses of personal motherfucking responsibility (except for cute little old uncle who goes on a demented glee spree of tongue-wagging)
xpost Blade Runner goes even deeper: don't tell me what you did, what are you, man? Can you tell me that?

Brick
Hard Candy

In No Country For Old Men and Get Carter, it's all somebody else's fault, but visionary vengeance quests take personal responsibility so far that body parts could end up scuttling across the road to the next reckoning, if the movies went on a little longer. Bardem's character has tracked his shit down, killed the guilty etc. parties, why the wife too, she asks him. He promised her husband he would, he explains dutifully, quietly-sadly? Maybe deferentially, for she is part of the price that must be paid. Carter is HS-HAAAA, he'd never say anything like this, but he's payin' it forward too.

So anyway here's my ballot so far, just in the order they come to mind:
Nightmare Alley
Blade Runner
No Country For Old Men
Get Carter
Chinatown
Clash By Night
The Postman Always Rings Twice (all three versions prob, although been a while since I've seen the Italian)
Detour
Act of Violence
In A Lonely Place
Vertigo
Taxi Driver

HA-HAAAA, that should be.

Homicide (the Mamet film from 1991)
Red Rock West
The American Friend
Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia
The Getaway (1972)

Has anybody else seen Hit Man, the Blaxploitation version of Get Carter released the next year w/Bernie Casey & Pam Grier?

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Thieves' Highway

Casino
Across 110th Street
Straight Time
The Seven-Ups
Prime Cut
The Outfit
The Driver
Blue Collar
Klute
The Onion Field
The Laughing Policeman
The Yakuza

Wanna see Hit Man! What is Thieves' Highway about?? Good title.

Oh yeah and also for my ballot: Salesman, which seemingly totally makes sense as an Iranian situation today, but also so very true in so many places and times that ya don't think first (or maybe at all) of calling the cops, calling any Authoritah.

Pitfall
Murder, My Sweet

xp Thieves' Highway: guy comes home from the war to find that his father has been crippled by a shady underworld character, guy vows revenge. From about five minutes into the film it's just absolutely relentless tension.

I don't watch that many movies but it's one of my favorites fwiw.

oh man, Laughing Policeman is so good. Gotta find a way to rewatch that soon.

Liked the Outfit too -- one of the better Parker adaptations.

I love the story Jules Dassin shares on the Thieves Highway CC disc about how (supporting player) Jack Oakie had become deaf (during the war?), but nobody knew because as a result he became such an expert lip-reader.

gonna watch night moves again now i guess.

man, i gotta watch cutter's way again soon too.

probably a bunch of repeats here, sorry:

Snake Eyes
The Fugitive
Das Boot
Paper Moon
The Hunt For Red October
Shaft (1971)
The French Connection
Port of Shadows
Dead Calm
Batman Returns
A Fish Called Wanda
The In-Laws
Clue
The Third Man
Dial M For Murder
The Poseidon Adventure
Subway
The Wages of Fear
Johnny Dangerously

A couple of helpful Letterboxd lists:

Classic Noir
Neo-Noir

dead mans shoes
red riding 1980

The Two Jakes

can i get a ruling on Who Framed Roger Rabbit?

crime noir mystery def

Violent Cop
Boiling Point
Sonatine
Hana-bi

The Offence

Hell is a City
The Criminal
Robbery

Pickpocket

dark city

The Grissom Gang
Dirty Harry

Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy
The Handmaiden
The Naked City
Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans

The General (1998 John Boorman with Brendan Gleeson)
Paddington 2

Insomnia (the Skarsgard one)
Rear Window
Accident (Cheang, 1992)

sorry 2009 not 1992*

I might end up splitting my ballot across the genres - Lock Stock is basically the perfect crime movie but doesn't have much of the Mystery or Thriller.

The Big Lebowski

(It probably would only make my ballot in a poll of comedies, but with Big Sleep and Long Goodbye present here, it felt missing.)

so everything but 'romcoms' qualifies apparently

no.......?

xp we've saved your usual seat for the results thread, but you might have to be Waldorf and Statler, is that cool?

because i've never had any desire to watch Hollywood butcher Insomnia i've only just realised it's Nolan who butchered it

"The Handmaiden"

this is a good call xxxps, I fancy watching that again.

Zodiac

Nightcrawler

every James Cagney film that isn't a musical

Not mentioned so far, afaic, from most recent to oldest, and with a focus on non-US stuff that if put on the spot I probably wouldn't call "greatest ever" but that's really satisfying and interesting and sorta the reason why I love crime films:

Killer Joe
Il Divo
Infernal Affairs II
Old Boy
City On Fire
Blue Velvet
Into The Night
La Balance
Emergency Squad
Revolver
Big Guns/Tony Arzenta
The Outside Man/Un Homme Est Mort
The Italian Connection
Milano Calibro 9
Two Lane Blacktop
Z
A Colt Is My Passport
The Small World Of Sammy Lee
Salvatore Giuliano
Pigs & Battleships
The Man Upstairs
Touch Of Evil
The Ship That Died Of Shame
The Big Combo
The Hitch Hiker
On Dangerous Ground
Pool Of London
Petrified Forest
The Lodger
Fantomas